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June 1, 2011 at 12:00 am #1051017
Why choose the free partyy scene over Clubs?
I can understand you can take drugs a lot easier and freely there.
But other than that i don’t get it. Everything about clubs nights seems better, better music, better artists, better venues.
i’m only doing it till im 18 atm, and maybe once in a while cause its cheaper.
Enlighten me why once your over 18 why you go?
I find people at free partys all look very different but underneath they all have the same outlook on life, is that why?
i prefer variety.June 1, 2011 at 12:08 am #1240120@JustAnotherDarren 437549 wrote:
Why choose the free partyy scene over Clubs?
I can understand you can take drugs a lot easier and freely there.
But other than that i don’t get it. Everything about clubs nights seems better, better music, better artists, better venues.
i’m only doing it till im 18 atm, and maybe once in a while cause its cheaper.
Enlighten me why once your over 18 why you go?
I find people at free partys all look very different but underneath they all have the same outlook on life, is that why?
i prefer variety.Depends what the free party was and where.. i’d go to a free party because they are local crews and it is a large group of friends or at least people who know each others faces so better than a chavy club ya know? 😛
June 1, 2011 at 12:10 am #1240127Oh seems fair enough, but in london, theres nothing im going to uncover that will make me want to go longer than these next two years.
June 1, 2011 at 4:43 am #1240112I went to clubs in my early days before I got into tekno, and all things around the clubs gave me a bad time, that had nothing to do with drugs(at the time I didnt do it) it was plain atmosphere and the thing that most clubs goes with the tide and not the underground, where all the real good music is. So when I realised the freedom of the TAZ(Temporary Autonomous Zone) there was no looking back. The DIY spirit out do what ever a club has to throw in to a party.
June 1, 2011 at 9:39 am #1240130I stopped going to clubs for a couple of reasons…
ONE: I just dont fit into the “club scene”…. in that in my time clubbing it used to be all you needed was to pull on a t shirt, your trainers, grab your money and drugs and head out. I loved it when it was like that.
It started getting “dressy”… by that I mean chicks in heels (how the FUCK can you dance all night in those love?), short skirts, tits out type of thing. Even at the techno clubs…I guess I go to clubs to dance get sweaty and just have an awesome time. I dont care about how I look so much. You will never see me in a skirt thats for sure. Or heels. Fuck no.TWO: Over time it became more of a meat market. Now I don’t reckon I am anything to look at but the amount of sleazy guys who tried it on when I am trying to get my rave on was frickin annoying at the very least.
It used to be you could chat to ANYONE or any group and you would hang out chat and there would be NOTHING implied- not trying to hook up or try it on, simply just talking as party drugs tend to help you do that! (They used to anyway!)
Now, if you start talking to some dude they think they are in with a chance. Sigh.The party scene for me was that I could be me. The music is awesome. You have space to move and are not squeezed in so tight that you cant even wave your hands about 🙂 (Thinking Fabric in London… kept saying I would never go back but damn those friends who had leaving parties held there… bah stupid place)
Also I find at parties that people are more open and less likely to think you are trying to shag them if you talk to them.
The scene changed a whole lot before I left London. I cant see myself going to a club while I am there… but I am going to try my best to find a party mainly because I really miss it. Even if I can go to just one it would mean 10000000000 times more to me than rocking up to some club.
Also I am waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to old to feel comfy in club nowdays with all you youn ungs 🙂You are still young I guess and as you experience more and especially as times starts changing you will know what you like and what you want to go to and why.
June 1, 2011 at 10:06 am #1240106TBH I can understand this POV and not just because of people being younger. Things have changed on the London free party scene compared with 5-10 years ago – there are security, entry fees, more of a emphasis on fashion, and even trying to pull, and the constant risk/undercurrent of gang violence and harrasment of girls.
At the same time in some parts of London there are legal underground events more similar to the free parties of old.
So the gap has been closed between free parties and townie events – and the younger people have realised this. It simply isn’t the same atmosphere as the late 90s or early 2000s.
June 1, 2011 at 10:08 am #1240105Anonymous
I like free party’s because they are outdoors, you can take more drugs without getting thrown out and you are free to do anything. But dislike them because of the lack of loo’s, can be hassle to get to and often dont live up to expectations.
June 1, 2011 at 10:12 am #1240107outside big cities there is a difference as the businesses running most provincial clubs don’t have the power to argue their right with the Police and Licensing Authorities to put on dance music events – as they cannot always guarantee the numbers in the doors to pay for the costs of running the venue, and nor can they launder money from tolerated drugs sales any more as the feds are wise to the methods used – so they have to go commercial or risk going out of business!
so in these areas free parties are more popular as often its the only electronic dance music event people have access to . But even these have increasingly been blighted by “townie” behaviour.
June 1, 2011 at 10:25 am #1240123My party shoes have been collecting dust other the past year so I don’t know what the scene is like at the moment.
I stopped enjoying the clubscene around 2003 and it was already mainstream by then. It just become too commercialised and a meat market. I have heard they are a few small good venues in London but I am yet to experience them.
But I prefer free parties
June 1, 2011 at 12:41 pm #1240128@lt luna, why!
I see in clubs the music i think is much better, i think. The artists i see there performing are amazing, such as at cable and dmz. However i do understand that these are 2 fairly small clubs when it comes to places like fabric, where i’ve know idea what they play, whatever the russian girls can move to i guess. or thats what my dad says.
@p0ly and whoever else said it i think kiwi. You only dont have boys i think moving to you, i think, at the young age of 16 with little experience in life but i think.. cause everyones on drugs at a rave. I rarely think much about sex when im on drugs, but whilst im drunk which is more common at clubs or partially high you think more about sex sex sex as a boy when your with a girl. But On being fully fucked up on drugs your content with the happenings on in your head and the music. No need to think about much else, just dancing..
I think clubs look great though wheni see how much cleaner and organized they are, aswell as with the artists they pull.June 1, 2011 at 1:32 pm #1240131To be fair it usually isn’t the 16 year olds trying to pull at a club…Usually sleazy 25-25 types who see drugged girls and think they are in with a chance…
God I am old enough to be your mother.
Depressing.
🙁June 1, 2011 at 1:38 pm #1240125@JustAnotherDarren 437549 wrote:
Everything about clubs nights seems better, better music, better artists, better venues.
There’s so much wrong with this … Better music and artists at clubs? O.o
But also to answer your question; I do both. I go clubbing/pubbing quite a lot as it’s an easy night out with mates. When I go free partyin’ it’s often a treak out to london so kind of expensive. Also I wouldn’t go to a rave without taking anything, but I try not to take things too often so it’s a max once a month event for me. However, the last time I went to a proper free party was in december, although I have been to some semi-legal things since.
For my friends and me, going to a free party is a much more “day out” and eats the whole weekend up which I can’t actually afford to do very often at all (I study and work).June 1, 2011 at 1:43 pm #1240122i think there is magic in both! infact i go to both club nights & free parties regulary here are some musings………….
free parties:
no noise restrictions
no security
no-one trying to rape the scene for money
ahead of its time music
you can smoke
cheap booze
diy coulture
taz
no closing time
usually no wankers!
great locations
more open people
can take dogs
a greater passion for music from “the crews”clubs:
you know what your gonna be listning to and can therefore pick and choose your night and therefore can tick off the old trainspotters journal!
June 1, 2011 at 2:35 pm #1240124If you are new to the scene then there is nothing wrong with clubs. Just go out and enjoy both clubs & free parties.
There are loads of good clubs out there they are just harder to find and a lot smaller these days. The superclub is dead and buried.
When you’re as old as me you don’t like to get exploited anymore 😉
Out of interest….Why are you asking people what they prefer?
June 1, 2011 at 2:35 pm #1240108Proximity to London or a bigger city such as Bristol or Manchester makes a massive difference. Many areas outside large cities no longer have any kind of underground dance music events in licensed venues, as they are viewed by the venue managers are far more trouble than they are worth in door money and bar sales.
June 1, 2011 at 4:39 pm #1240115Club night’s don’t come close! you’ve got a good mission finding the party, no over the top security, sound people, better music, no over priced bar. The list goes on.
suppose london squat partys may aswell be club nights though with security, door tax and full of wrong uns!
June 3, 2011 at 3:53 pm #1240118the reasons why i go to free parties…
I HATE bouncers… an they hate me. As sinner was saying, its the autonomous zone that appeals to me. In a field with sunshine and bass with a big fat line.. nothing compares! Or in a lovely squat with decent artwork, amazing tunes and friendly people. again, the autonomous zone. I dont like the chavvy warehouse parties where the warehouse is completly destroyed throughout the party. Its just disrespectful.
Justanotherdarren- I dont think you have experienced an actual decent party. Gashbastards are a new crew and IMO not “on it” enough. Try going to a party literally in the middle of nowhere with an established crew with some good friends and a good selection of music. The longer you hang on the party scene the more friends you will make (which will make you want to go out more- to see your friends) and you will also hear about more parties. The good ones arnt advertised on places like facebook.
ALSO- how could you say there is better musi in clubs??!! youve just utterd pure blashpemy! alot of the good techno artists were born out of the free party/underground scene. but this is all just my opinion. What i like about the music at free parties is that DJ’s/Producers arnt afraid to play more experimental/different music to an audience who are obviously seeking something different rather than the same old mundane DnB or techno. Add abit of spice to the mix!
i hope you find your place in the free party family.
June 3, 2011 at 6:36 pm #1240129Thanks tom, I have trouble getting ahold of anything else other than that added on facebook, especially since nothings advertised on here or anywhere else i could look..
Also, I Completely stand-by my saying that “music is better in clubs”. I do not enjoy techno much, been to one techno party. Loved the psytrance, not into it at home. DnB seems very suited but my favourite music is non-party/rave music. The closest thing to rave music i like is dubstep.. And rave dubstep is shite, but at dmz and cable they play this music.. well. It sounds great, and i’ve been to cable 3 or 4 times, its amazing. Apparently DMZ is even better. But i’ve little experience of much in life, this summer i imagine is going to be a B.I.G. one.. will get to have a look everywhere..June 3, 2011 at 8:05 pm #1240113Generally the people / the crews, the music, the atmosphere, the venues, the community spirit (still alive in the ones I get to) and the cups of tea!!!
lovely!!!June 3, 2011 at 8:08 pm #1240126I think you need a time machine if you really want to see why free parties are better. They don’t have the really big ones like they used in the nineties anymore. They were more like festivals than actual parties.
I’m originally from Oxfordshire, and Oxford always was really shit for clubbing so the free party scene was massive. You could go with all your mates and you got to know people from all over south England that used to come for the parties. The atmosphere was wicked, you could get as twatted as you liked, and the worst thing that could happen to you was that youd fall on a cow pat. The convoys were also mental as well.
Places like Scothmans Knob (i shit you not) and Christmas Common were legendary as well as crews like BDI and Exodus.
June 3, 2011 at 8:40 pm #1240116I prefer club nights these days. Or small clubs that do specialised nights. Round here you get alot of them kicking off and I find it’s much easier these days. Used to love the free parties though but they were so much of a mission. You would wait till 11pm, phone the party line. Listen to warbled directions, someone would have to drive, realise you had to drive a hundred miles to get to the party, phone the party line again, find it’s been switched off with a couple miles to go, find other partygoers, form a convoy, get to the party and realise the filth have beaten you to it, Wait around till word spread of the parties relocation, drive to it, realise the filth have beaten you again to it, then maybe get to a party but by then you can’t really be bothered. Used to be good fun at first but after a while, when nearly all parties you went to were being halted before you reached em it seemed rather pointless in the end.
Although that’s not to say it was a bad experience, had some truly amazing nights back when I was an illegal partygoer, met some proper wicked people back in the day. Wouldn’t mind going to one again but the logistics of such an endeavour proper puts me off!
June 3, 2011 at 8:49 pm #1240119@GiantMidget 438005 wrote:
I prefer club nights these days. Or small clubs that do specialised nights. Round here you get alot of them kicking off and I find it’s much easier these days. Used to love the free parties though but they were so much of a mission. You would wait till 11pm, phone the party line. Listen to warbled directions, someone would have to drive, realise you had to drive a hundred miles to get to the party, phone the party line again, find it’s been switched off with a couple miles to go, find other partygoers, form a convoy, get to the party and realise the filth have beaten you to it, Wait around till word spread of the parties relocation, drive to it, realise the filth have beaten you again to it, then maybe get to a party but by then you can’t really be bothered. Used to be good fun at first but after a while, when nearly all parties you went to were being halted before you reached em it seemed rather pointless in the end.
Although that’s not to say it was a bad experience, had some truly amazing nights back when I was an illegal partygoer, met some proper wicked people back in the day. Wouldn’t mind going to one again but the logistics of such an endeavour proper puts me off!
🙁 i guess ive been lucky. only a handful of parties ive been to have been stopped by the police. never have i been on my way to a party to hear its been shut down. (tho i know it does happen)
June 3, 2011 at 8:54 pm #1240117@Pike Tom Us 438010 wrote:
🙁 i guess ive been lucky. only a handful of parties ive been to have been stopped by the police. never have i been on my way to a party to hear its been shut down. (tho i know it does happen)
We used to have to travel miles to get to parties back in the day. Rarely were they close by. Although one was right around the corner from mine and that was a good party. Happened to be the party when I momentarily lost my testicles.
June 3, 2011 at 9:14 pm #1240109it depends so much on what area you are in. Also since 2005 the cops have had lots better communications and surveillance kit. From about 1997 to 2005 the ravers actually had the upper hand with this.
some areas such as EA have also been victims of their own success..
June 3, 2011 at 9:18 pm #1240114@General Lighting 438016 wrote:
it depends so much on what area you are in. Also since 2005 the cops have had lots better communications and surveillance kit. From about 1997 to 2005 the ravers actually had the upper hand with this.
some areas such as EA have also been victims of their own success..
I only just google translated your last sig… now I had to do it again ! lol (far too nosey for me own good sometines!)
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