@joshd96320 375852 wrote:

not got em yet… gonna get a rack bit that goes over the back wheel to rest bergen on a bit, and a basket on the front for the in-travel boombox, shisha & liqouer of my choice

you really need panniers to go on that rack, otherwise the rucksack will just cause the same balance problem. panniers lower the centre of gravity of the bike making it more stable. They are pricey but its better than stacking it on the dodgy roads round here with all the potholes etc…

Altura ones are good. somewhere like flynnstarr will have a good set. Ortlieb (I use them now) are even better but fucking expensive.. The tent etc can probably be secured to the top of the rack with bungee cords (most better racks have an eyelet on each side for securing the hook bit).

Also get a good rack with 10mm tubing, and ensure all them bolts are done up tight or they work loose..

have a look on google for cycle touring sites, there is a lot of good advice about how to carry the equipment.

@General Lighting 375859 wrote:

you really need panniers to go on that rack, otherwise the rucksack will just cause the same balance problem. panniers lower the centre of gravity of the bike making it more stable. They are pricey but its better than stacking it on the dodgy roads round here with all the potholes etc…

Altura ones are good. somewhere like flynnstarr will have a good set. Ortlieb (I use them now) are even better but fucking expensive.. The tent etc can probably be secured to the top of the rack with bungee cords (most better racks have an eyelet on each side for securing the hook bit).

Also get a good rack with 10mm tubing, and ensure all them bolts are done up tight or they work loose..

have a look on google for cycle touring sites, there is a lot of good advice about how to carry the equipment.

how big am i looking and what can i actually get in the panniers?
ill be needing to carry on my person, roughly:

– 6 man tent
– basha
– basha poles
– boombox
– 2 sleeping bags (or sleeping bag and roll mat)
– ground sheet
– bag of tent pegs
– mess tins
– gas canister with a regulator thingy
– hexi stove
– food… probably mainly couscous and spice jar
– water
– perhaps a ukulele
– waterproofs
– change of clothes & boxers/socks

anything else u reckon? i can get it all on my bergan… but as u said centre of gravity mayb a problem..

i think 2 of us are gunna b on a tandem also, (mayb a rickshaw)

remember to include such things as inner tubes, puncture repair kit, pump and basic toolkit as well..

@joshd96320 375894 wrote:

how big am i looking and what can i actually get in the panniers?

both the bergen and the capacity of the panniers should be shown in litres.. most double pannier sets are 40-54 litres.

Agu Ventura 140 Throwover rear panniers

if there are a number of you on bikes then the load can of course be divided..

TBH I’d also take the kit list into one of the local bike shop on a quiet day (not sat/sun as usually its busy) – usually bike shops attract the sort of people what have done stuff like this and will be able to advise…

woollen furnishings?