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July 12, 2006 at 11:30 am #1038492
This has been going on for some months. I am sometimes on a usenet group for cyclists and a work colleague of one of the regular posters was one of the victims.
Worth raverbaby and his friends being aware as its in your sort of area 🙁
Quote:Drivers accused of cycle rageDrivers who resent cyclists’ ability to dodge traffic could be behind a series of attacks on riders in and around a city, a cycling group has said.
In the latest incident, on Monday, a 26-year-old man was shoved from his bike in Abingdon, south of Oxford.
He sustained bruising and cuts to his knees, elbows and hips.
The pressure group Cyclox believes angry drivers are targeting cyclists. Police are investigating links between the attacks.
Cyclox spokesman James Styring said: “There are more people taking to their bikes because of summer and maybe motorists get annoyed with their ability to skip traffic queues.
“Although it may seem like an amusing summer activity driving along and pushing people off their bikes, if someone breaks their neck you could be facing a murder charge.”
White van
Thames Valley Police believe the latest attack near the Ox public house on the A4183 on Monday could be linked to two others in south Oxfordshire.The first known attack was on a 32-year-old woman, who had abuse hurled at her and was punched by two men travelling in passing cars as she cycled along the Banbury Road in Summertown, north Oxford, on the morning of 12 June.
In mid-June, a 68-year-old man was pushed off his bike by someone in a small white van on the B4009 just outside Princes Risborough.
The victim of Monday’s attack told police he remembered hearing a diesel engine and glimpsing a white vehicle, possibly a van, passing him.
Pc Lewis Boyce, investigating the Abingdon incident, said: “I am aware that there have been a number of similar incidents involving cyclists being pushed from their bikes and I will be looking into these to see if there are any clear links.
“This is no prank. Falling from a cycle could easily cause a serious injury and could even prove fatal, particularly if the cyclist were to fall into the path of an oncoming vehicle.”
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/5171552.stm
Published: 2006/07/12 08:25:06 GMT
© BBC MMVI
July 12, 2006 at 11:33 am #1081798Fuckers, i love my bike an having some twat shove me off as im going along would piss me off no end. closest one to me is about 10 miles away so i guess we are safe for the time being, although i do often cycle up to risbourough. Cheers for the warning GLraaa
July 12, 2006 at 11:55 am #1081790raverbaby wrote:Fuckers, i love my bike an having some twat shove me off as im going along would piss me off no end. closest one to me is about 10 miles away so i guess we are safe for the time being, although i do often cycle up to risbourough. Cheers for the warning GLraaaTBH I think its just one or two sets of scum as I cycled in that area for years when I lived there and never had any major trouble.
But like you said in the 7/7 thread some people are getting angrier and more willing to use violence against someone doing something they don’t agree with.
In many cases its not possible to reach a cyclist from a motor vehicle due to road width and layout; I expect these scum are making use of “pinch points” where the road narrows and they can reach the cyclist.
its worth being wary in these areas of strange vehicles (particularly white vans and those containing groups of young men) and be prepared to take evasive action (a good strategy anyway to avoid collisions). You are more manouverable and there are often verges etc that can put distance between you and the attacker (beware of ditches/uneven terrain)
These attacks are mostly opportunist so If you can cause a situation where the van has to pass you but the scrote in the passenger seat can’t reach you, they are highly unlikley to reverse or turn back to try and get you!
July 12, 2006 at 11:55 am #1081806cu*ts, although being a master of falling off my bike id like to think that id be on my feet while the van was still close enought to put sumint thru the back window as they were driving off but im sure theres a lot of force behind a push from a moving car
July 12, 2006 at 11:57 am #1081799time to come up with some alterantive measures against this, maybe a brick catapult?
July 12, 2006 at 2:14 pm #1081807some sort of poisionus dart that shoots out of the handle bar??
July 12, 2006 at 2:17 pm #1081800Meltown wrote:some sort of poisionus dart that shoots out of the handle bar??ROFL. maybe some sort of camera so then you can at least catch the bastards number plate.
July 12, 2006 at 2:24 pm #1081791if it were legal in this country I’d suggest a Glock 19C
compact enough not to be heavy and weigh you down, easily carried, and compensated for recoil so you don’t fall off your bike anyway when firing it…
bicycles were often made by the same companies who made small arms (BSA bicycles and motorcycles == British Small Arms) and it was legal to carry pistols in the UK until about 1920
The first cyclists also got a lot of abuse from horse-riders etc; at least one company made a “cyclists revolver” (it was an odd calibre like .30 or .32) for dealing robustly with such abuse…
July 12, 2006 at 2:26 pm #1081801General Lighting wrote:if it were legal in this country I’d suggest a Glock 19Ccompact enough not to be heavy and weigh you down, easily carried, and compensated for recoil so you don’t fall off your bike anyway when firing it…
bicycles were often made by the same companies who made small arms (BSA bicycles and motorcycles == British Small Arms) and it was legal to carry pistols in the UK until about 1920
The first cyclists also got a lot of abuse from horse-riders etc; at least one company made a “cyclists revolver” (it was an odd calibre like .30 or .32) for dealing robustly with such abuse…
sweetraaa im often cycling about with a gun on my back any way, maybe thats why i have never experienced this sort of abuse.
July 12, 2006 at 3:57 pm #1081804you could get a wing mirror for your bike – i got one years ago – they make it easier for you to spot approaching vehicles..
:bounce_ci:bounce_ci:bounce_ci
July 12, 2006 at 4:12 pm #1081797Anonymous
wank. ive been in a few incidents of road rage due to irresposible drivers. i was run off the road by a volvo driver once, i turned around to give him the finger, and saw he was on his mobile liek a dickhead. instead of realising he had put his communication needs before my safety and what a dick he was being, he revved his engine, chased me down a side street and then stopped and got out. luckily i was so pissed off i scared the shit out of him and he high tailed it. i never start violence, but i would have happily stomped him into the floor for what he did.
having said all that, one of the differences between cyclists and drivers (and there are many) is that cyclists dont need a lisence, which in a way i think would be a good idea. there are many aware and competant cyclists but also many ignorant and incapable. i can understand why some drivers get annoyed. it must be stressfull for the more responsible drivers, nearly kiling people thru no fault of their own.
July 12, 2006 at 4:32 pm #1081792USE wrote:having said all that, one of the differences between cyclists and drivers (and there are many) is that cyclists dont need a lisence, which in a way i think would be a good idea. there are many aware and competant cyclists but also many ignorant and incapable. i can understand why some drivers get annoyed. it must be stressfull for the more responsible drivers, nearly kiling people thru no fault of their own.until the mid 1980s most kids were encouraged to take their cycling proficiency tests; then the bobbies stopped helping out as Thatcho decided they were better used to crack miners’ heads.
kids’ TV, comics and other media ran programmes on safe cycling as well (you don’t see this nowadays)
at the same time the compensation culture crept in and schools were discouraged from letting kids cycle to school in case they met with an accident, sued the school and half the Education Authoirity’s budget was wiped out
and due to bad industrial relations teachers went on strike, stopped doing after school clubs and did not start again for a generation (it is literally only a few years since these started up in some schools)
Add to this the breakdown of society and respect for others (which makes road users share the common resource of the highway) – hardly surprising that people cycle badly (I’ve had a few near misses with other cyclists as well!)
July 12, 2006 at 4:35 pm #1081805our local schools have cycling proficiency days run by the police !!!raaa
July 12, 2006 at 4:42 pm #1081793raj wrote:our local schools have cycling proficiency days run by the police !!!raaawhich is what the traffic cops did when I was a kid.
In England from about 1985 until the late 1990s all this stopped – maybe not the same in Scotland.
July 12, 2006 at 8:01 pm #1081794the county council have been given a bunch of money to teach kids and adults how to ride bikes
shame when it used to be run essentially for free through good will that was abused
July 12, 2006 at 8:07 pm #1081802We have cycling proficiency in our areas too. As for road rage i think its no excuse for aggresive behaviour, even if it is a named condition.
July 12, 2006 at 9:00 pm #1081795raverbaby wrote:As for road rage i think its no excuse for aggresive behaviour, even if it is a named condition.true that
in the local High St bikes were banned for years (buses only).. now that bikes are allowed, some of the bus drivers seem to really resent it and try and kill cyclists at every opportunity
November 11, 2006 at 10:25 pm #1081789I have just stumbled on your thread you guys and felt I just had to comment. Now b4 I go any further I have to say I am the sort of person who respects freedom of choice and despises authority. There are too many rules in our namby-pamby nanny state of what was once Great Britain. I rode a bike when I was younger and when I got older rode a motorcycle and as such know first hand how dim witted and thoughtless some car drivers can be! Now I live a quieter lifestyle and try to enjoy the great outdoors on foot. I see a lot of cyclists. I am lucky enough to live in an area of outstanding natural beauty. Unfortunately the impression you give to a lot of people like myself is that that there are a growing number of you that are arrogant, aggressive, obsessed loud, with no respect for others who may be using the road, or the path or the woods, riding their horse, walking their dog, be elderly, or be out with their young children. A lot of you seem to think you have the right to charge about with no consideration at all…. perhaps you might like to stop for a minute and think why it is you feel so may people are out to get you. So many of your comments are filled with “the C-nts the f-ckers” and other such dim-witted testosterone fuelled expletives…. perhaps it is you who are the problem?
For example most people don’t mind if you filter to the front of the queue but perhaps riding two abreast in large groups on the road might be a bit much seeing as how you are not licensed and do not pay any tax to be there. oh yes you say…but we are Green and ecologically sound….
hmmm so may of you seem to drive your bicycle to your chosen enjoyment location…..
Not green at all really…
perhaps you should ride there or ride in your own locality to win that argument? I know that you are not all the same and that some of you will have experienced unjustness and prejudice, but the only way you can expect to be judged is by how you behave. Your actions, individually, and as a group can make all the difference.
November 11, 2006 at 10:49 pm #1081803I think youve taken a bit of harmless banter way too literally mate, if you take the time too look aorund this site. I think you will find that everyone here deplores violence in all its twisted forms, and i will also have you know that i am a very respectful cyclist and take the time wait for pedestrians. Im i no way out to tear down an unsuspecting OAP. And am a keen enthusiast of nature in all its beauty and am very keen to keep it beautifal. maybe it is you that shouldnt be so quick to judge in the future.
No disrespect, Yours sincerely Raverbaby
November 12, 2006 at 1:42 am #1081796human being wrote:you are not licensed and do not pay any tax to be there.roads are paid for by everyone out of council tax
so cyclists and pedestrians do pay for roads
November 12, 2006 at 10:41 am #1081808raverbaby wrote:I think youve taken a bit of harmless banter way too literally mate, if you take the time too look aorund this site. I think you will find that everyone here deplores violence in all its twisted forms, and i will also have you know that i am a very respectful cyclist and take the time wait for pedestrians. Im i no way out to tear down an unsuspecting OAP. And am a keen enthusiast of nature in all its beauty and am very keen to keep it beautifal. maybe it is you that shouldnt be so quick to judge in the future.No disrespect, Yours sincerely Raverbaby
Nicely put mate raaaraaa
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