Yeah :annoyed:

What really hacked me off about the fact that they were charging was that they told some of my mates that it was a legal event and had a license and all the necessary paperwork to support that. The guys fell for that until a week later when they came to see me and I started asking questions about health and safety and explaining why that would have never been allowed if a license had been in place.

If you are not sure if the event/party you are attending has a license and they claim it has then ask to see the license itself – by law they have to display it at the entrance and show it to you if you ask to see it. If they cant produce it then you can refuse to pay if you so wish – if they dont let you in you can always report them to the cops and tell them that they were claiming it had a licence. Thats a serious offence btw :you_crazy

I can understand that the party scene sometimes involves charges for security etc on the door of parties but its the lying that pisses me off. If they want to claim they have a license to get more money then we should flush these guys from the party scene as they damage the reputation of all the other crews who dont lie. If you need to charge on the door be honest about why it is being done. Dont try and pretend you are doing it legally if you are not.

To me a free party is just that – no compulsory door tax and a donations bucket for those that have the money [the donations bucket accepts other things as well as money if people have no cash left – alcohol etc are all acceptable as are cans of fuel for the genny]

i’d be properly pissed off if that happened Raj but i dont think reporting them to the cops would really help the overall situation…

Depends on the point of view mate – up here we dont charge to get into a party – not the underground crews anyway. This site was in use by the underground crews. It was a public space [common ground] and they didnt rent it or in any way put anything back into the local area. They did try to fence it off and charge people to get in to it though. :annoyed:

I know exactly how much work goes into getting a PEL and just how much it annoys our local authorities to have people pretend they have one. Its also a serious breach of licensing laws. It reflects badly on all the other crews too even though they had always been sound about it. The police up here are clever enough to know the difference betwen these guys and the normal crews but Joe Public may not be as well informed.

AFAIK the only reason that the crew involved came to scotland to do this party was because they had rinsed their local area and knew it would get busted. It was not the only english crew that came up to scotland and crapped on our best free party sites near to towns. They came up, rinsed popular and long term sites and got them locked down for the responsible local crews who previously had managed to share them. They left a huge mess and a lot of very hacked off local residents who feel they had the piss taken out of them by a bunch of inconsiderate arseholes :annoyed:

Its my personal opinion that its immoral to pretend you have a PEL – especially if you have no toilets or running water. I didnt say that I would call the cops btw – just that its a real threat to use to stop them charging you and something you might consider if the crew is well out of order. I personally would never go to ‘free’ party in scotland that charged on the door as it flies in the face of what I believe in. Its either a free party or a legal festival IMO – there is no middle ground.

:rant: :rant:

you ever been to Sheffstock, you might like it?:wink:

:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:dinnae think so :weee: