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March 30, 2008 at 10:24 pm #1044110
I’ve not put this on main yet as I want to be a bit more sure about the facts before I spread this news too wide
apparently (weekend of gener8r) there was a psy-trance party somewhere in London
as usual it had security and compulsory door charge (about £10 these days)
anyway local rudes tried to rush the door
couldn’t get through and the security secured the door against them
so the rudeboys smashed every window they could see in the front of the warehouse
its unclear who called 999 (bystanders or even people at the parties) but metpol turned up – in an ARV and they were “level 2 deployed” i.e firearms on dispay (Heckler and Koch MP5 carbines, 9mm parabellum) – they were calm, “friendly but firm” and told everyone in no uncertain terms the event was over, they must shut down the party and evacuate the building for safety – unsurprisingly people complied
I have only seen a few posts on SJ about this though and little more said, but its a worrying escalation of things and the people who posted it definitely weren’t the sort who would make up something like this…
I’ve seen ARVs on standby at Synthetic circus (can’t blame the cops really the way london’s going) but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of guns on display at a London free event (and I’ve been going to them since 1990)
March 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm #1159374Sorry to be picky but a £10 door tax is not a free event in my book.
I am still pretty hacked off about an english crew charging on the door of a psytrance party on someone else’s [scottish] usual site and ruining it for everyone. :annoyed: The locals and the cops took a very dim view of the punters being charged on the door and the mess left behind as well as the inconsiderate noise level all weekend.I am also not surprised that psytrance parties are getting the attendance of the police now – it was only a matter of time IMO.
I always get the impression [rightly or wrongly] that psytrancers seem to think the laws dont apply to them for some reason – am I just being unfairly biased or do others get that impression too? [could be I have only run into bait crews after all]March 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm #1217160Sorry to be picky but a £10 door tax is not a free event in my book.
I am still pretty hacked off about an english crew charging on the door of a psytrance party on someone else’s [scottish] usual site and ruining it for everyone. :annoyed: The locals and the cops took a very dim view of the punters being charged on the door and the mess left behind as well as the inconsiderate noise level all weekend.I am also not surprised that psytrance parties are getting the attendance of the police now – it was only a matter of time IMO.
I always get the impression [rightly or wrongly] that psytrancers seem to think the laws dont apply to them for some reason – am I just being unfairly biased or do others get that impression too? [could be I have only run into bait crews after all]March 31, 2008 at 12:11 pm #1159367nah you are 100% right about some of the psytrancers (although the ones I know from Reading are sound enough)
But the London crews have a dodgy undercurrent of “Mediterranean” gang activity (Italians, spanish etc gangsters running the doors and drugs) – Also their security are prepared to play “hard man games” such as doling out punishment beatings to “unapproved” dealers
there’s also a dodgy aspect of the foreign parties too, like how someone said “Oh, Indian parties are fine because we pay baksheesh (bribes) to the feds”
I’m sure if a ton of Asians came to Britain and were paying off our bobbies to punt out heroin there wouldn’t be such a liberal view of things..
TBH I don’t blame the Met for what they did but the way everyones carrying on in London its hotting it up for everyone..
March 31, 2008 at 12:11 pm #1217153nah you are 100% right about some of the psytrancers (although the ones I know from Reading are sound enough)
But the London crews have a dodgy undercurrent of “Mediterranean” gang activity (Italians, spanish etc gangsters running the doors and drugs) – Also their security are prepared to play “hard man games” such as doling out punishment beatings to “unapproved” dealers
there’s also a dodgy aspect of the foreign parties too, like how someone said “Oh, Indian parties are fine because we pay baksheesh (bribes) to the feds”
I’m sure if a ton of Asians came to Britain and were paying off our bobbies to punt out heroin there wouldn’t be such a liberal view of things..
TBH I don’t blame the Met for what they did but the way everyones carrying on in London its hotting it up for everyone..
March 31, 2008 at 5:57 pm #1159380makes me think I was quite lucky then if it was the one sat just gone?
as I desperatly wanted to go to it – as my previous experience with their partys have been good –
as from what I know of the peeps they are usually free and donations for the rig if you want to contribute and always promote clean up as you go – so may be mistaken
but not good either way
March 31, 2008 at 5:57 pm #1217165makes me think I was quite lucky then if it was the one sat just gone?
as I desperatly wanted to go to it – as my previous experience with their partys have been good –
as from what I know of the peeps they are usually free and donations for the rig if you want to contribute and always promote clean up as you go – so may be mistaken
but not good either way
March 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm #1159368nah this was some time ago (I think Gener8r may have been on 2008-03-08)
sounds like theres a fair few psy-trance party crews though
in between all the crap on SJ there are some accurate posts, but none of the news is good – people I know personally are posting stuff on there which is plainly showing that with each free party in the London area the different warring factions become more entrenched –
TBH I think the Met are genuinely now only trying to stop people getting hurt or even killed than being killjoys.. but in this country cops do not bring out guns unless they feel they may need to use them..
March 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm #1217154nah this was some time ago (I think Gener8r may have been on 2008-03-08)
sounds like theres a fair few psy-trance party crews though
in between all the crap on SJ there are some accurate posts, but none of the news is good – people I know personally are posting stuff on there which is plainly showing that with each free party in the London area the different warring factions become more entrenched –
TBH I think the Met are genuinely now only trying to stop people getting hurt or even killed than being killjoys.. but in this country cops do not bring out guns unless they feel they may need to use them..
March 31, 2008 at 6:28 pm #1159381General Lighting wrote:TBH I think the Met are genuinely now only trying to stop people getting hurt or even killed than being killjoys.. but in this country cops do not bring out guns unless they feel they may need to use them..indeed, and this is why I’ve stayed away from a lot of the squat partys and wharehouse ones these days unless I know something of the ‘crew’ as I personally find all the gangster stuff that is going with it all too frightening – I know we’ve had similar chats about this but thats why I calmed it down a bit in my early 20’s as it was all just getting too hectic and ‘gang’ like for me – :hopeless:
I like a fluffy chilled out vibe not a watch your back vibe when I’m out –March 31, 2008 at 6:28 pm #1217166General Lighting wrote:TBH I think the Met are genuinely now only trying to stop people getting hurt or even killed than being killjoys.. but in this country cops do not bring out guns unless they feel they may need to use them..indeed, and this is why I’ve stayed away from a lot of the squat partys and wharehouse ones these days unless I know something of the ‘crew’ as I personally find all the gangster stuff that is going with it all too frightening – I know we’ve had similar chats about this but thats why I calmed it down a bit in my early 20’s as it was all just getting too hectic and ‘gang’ like for me – :hopeless:
I like a fluffy chilled out vibe not a watch your back vibe when I’m out –March 31, 2008 at 8:24 pm #1159372Tank Girl wrote:indeed, and this is why I’ve stayed away from a lot of the squat partys and wharehouse ones these days unless I know something of the ‘crew’ as I personally find all the gangster stuff that is going with it all too frightening – I know we’ve had similar chats about this but thats why I calmed it down a bit in my early 20’s as it was all just getting too hectic and ‘gang’ like for me – :hopeless:
I like a fluffy chilled out vibe not a watch your back vibe when I’m out –nice fluffy parties up north, for the mean time anyway…
March 31, 2008 at 8:24 pm #1217158Tank Girl wrote:indeed, and this is why I’ve stayed away from a lot of the squat partys and wharehouse ones these days unless I know something of the ‘crew’ as I personally find all the gangster stuff that is going with it all too frightening – I know we’ve had similar chats about this but thats why I calmed it down a bit in my early 20’s as it was all just getting too hectic and ‘gang’ like for me – :hopeless:
I like a fluffy chilled out vibe not a watch your back vibe when I’m out –nice fluffy parties up north, for the mean time anyway…
March 31, 2008 at 8:34 pm #1159385Well if this the way some parties are gonna go down then i say shut em down, I’m with the OB on this one. Raves are fun an all but when you throw possibilities of gang warfare so to speak and other retarded shit then these parties really shouldn’t be occurring.
You’re there to have fun not worrying about watching your back the whole night! :you_crazy
March 31, 2008 at 8:34 pm #1217171Well if this the way some parties are gonna go down then i say shut em down, I’m with the OB on this one. Raves are fun an all but when you throw possibilities of gang warfare so to speak and other retarded shit then these parties really shouldn’t be occurring.
You’re there to have fun not worrying about watching your back the whole night! :you_crazy
March 31, 2008 at 8:40 pm #1159369the Met usually leave you to get on with it so there must have been something IMO what made them react in such an extreme manner
I wouldn’t be too complacent up north either
if the head cop of GMP is brown bread (wasn’t he the one found at bottom of a mountain?) then there is gonna be someone taking his place, and will want to prove him/herself
or another senior position will be vacated by them at another constabulary
this is in part how Norfolk got locked down, ironically those new cops came in from the North and one of them is all set on “stopping youth criminality etc”
March 31, 2008 at 8:40 pm #1217155the Met usually leave you to get on with it so there must have been something IMO what made them react in such an extreme manner
I wouldn’t be too complacent up north either
if the head cop of GMP is brown bread (wasn’t he the one found at bottom of a mountain?) then there is gonna be someone taking his place, and will want to prove him/herself
or another senior position will be vacated by them at another constabulary
this is in part how Norfolk got locked down, ironically those new cops came in from the North and one of them is all set on “stopping youth criminality etc”
March 31, 2008 at 8:43 pm #1159382General Lighting wrote:the Met usually leave you to get on with it so there must have been something IMO what made them react in such an extreme manneresp in city / built up areas –
as I’d guess they have better things / crime to be dealing with than shutting down a party, unless something really is amissMarch 31, 2008 at 8:43 pm #1217168General Lighting wrote:the Met usually leave you to get on with it so there must have been something IMO what made them react in such an extreme manneresp in city / built up areas –
as I’d guess they have better things / crime to be dealing with than shutting down a party, unless something really is amissMarch 31, 2008 at 8:52 pm #1159376Tank Girl wrote:esp in city / built up areas –as I’d guess they have better things / crime to be dealing with than shutting down a party, unless something really is amiss
Depends how they perceive the party scene though – it only takes one bad experience to make you question whether its really innocent or not.
The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.
March 31, 2008 at 8:52 pm #1217161Tank Girl wrote:esp in city / built up areas –as I’d guess they have better things / crime to be dealing with than shutting down a party, unless something really is amiss
Depends how they perceive the party scene though – it only takes one bad experience to make you question whether its really innocent or not.
The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.
March 31, 2008 at 8:55 pm #1159383Raj wrote:Depends how they perceive the party scene though – it only takes one bad experience to make you question whether its really innocent or not.The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.
yeh, I’d not thought that 😉
March 31, 2008 at 8:55 pm #1217169Raj wrote:Depends how they perceive the party scene though – it only takes one bad experience to make you question whether its really innocent or not.The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.
yeh, I’d not thought that 😉
April 1, 2008 at 1:35 am #1159371Raj wrote:The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.Not only did they ruin Cammo but they also then went on Radio Scotland discussing free parties for a mini documentary thing they were running. The kindly told the guy “drugs aren’t all raves are about but we never really have a good party without a good drug supply.”
I mean FFS that is not gona win any support….we tried to do a party 3 weeks later that never even got going as the police were in force at the 2 sites we tried before we were even there.
April 1, 2008 at 1:35 am #1217157Raj wrote:The psytrance crew that came and fouled the scottish site for everyone else has left me very cynical about psytrance crews in general. I do wait and see what individual crews do but I tend to have very low expectations in the first place as most of the crews I have encountered are the same.Not only did they ruin Cammo but they also then went on Radio Scotland discussing free parties for a mini documentary thing they were running. The kindly told the guy “drugs aren’t all raves are about but we never really have a good party without a good drug supply.”
I mean FFS that is not gona win any support….we tried to do a party 3 weeks later that never even got going as the police were in force at the 2 sites we tried before we were even there.
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