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May 16, 2006 at 4:03 pm #1072504General Lighting wrote:yeah, but the heddlu don’t really care round your way – and your country has a culture of music and song.
in England is “shut the fuck up” or the cops will be on their way if people are up past their bedtimes. Suffolk never liked the late night economy; Essex seems to have tried it and realised that people ended up getting pissed and battering each other.
Here if you want to do that sort of thing you have to do it quietly and in your own house (Suffolk has one of the highest rates of domestics/disputes between former friends – many of which result in serious injury or murder).
Anyway raves in valleys/quarries are usually hardly gonna annoy anybody; and the sheep seem to enjoy the music sometimes. They loved a certain hardstyle/techno rig in 2004 🙂 I’m sure they gained a few extra rig groupies that way..
Yeah, they don’t seem to mind in the same way as some of the Southern constabularies.
For instance, we threw a Holodeck rave with a few rigs a couple of years back. My mate picked a local beauty spot for the site, but when we went back there there were a few families camping, so we moved to Trefil.
At this point we were unable to update the partyline as there was no signal, which could have caused problems but…
.. the police stayed at the original site for a couple of hours, and directed ravers to the backup site, until we could get the partyline updated.
You wouldn’t get that with TVP innit.
:bigsmile:
May 16, 2006 at 4:13 pm #1072476Jon_tooth wrote:You wouldn’t get that with TVP innit.:bigsmile:
it may seem unbelievable today but they often actually used to be quite sound, even given the amount of locals who whinged to them…
it was just that people caned all the same venues every weekend, left the rubbish behind and loads of ravers got into class A’s and became addicts…
May 16, 2006 at 6:34 pm #1072505General Lighting wrote:it may seem unbelievable today but they often actually used to be quite sound, even given the amount of locals who whinged to them…it was just that people caned all the same venues every weekend, left the rubbish behind and loads of ravers got into class A’s and became addicts…
Let’s hope it doesn’t go the same way here.
May 16, 2006 at 7:02 pm #1072486Jon_tooth wrote:Let’s hope it doesn’t go the same way here.there’s lessons to be learned for sure
protect and respect what you have
May 16, 2006 at 7:09 pm #1072495General Lighting wrote:This is something I’ve been wondering about for some time and have noticed even more since I moved here…everywhere else I’ve lived you’ve got a mixture of ravers from their teens to mostly their thirties with a few surviving older “hippies/punks”
but in East Anglia it seems to be anyone from high school age to their early 20s and not much afterwards – where are all the East Anglian ravers in their later 20s and early 30s – particularly in Suffolk? On both party boards (SJ and PV) there are loads of people posting from younger crews which is a good thing as it keeps parties going but there seems to be a “lost generation” of ravers compared to other areas.
Its not as if theres a shortage of colleges/unis so they aren’t all disappearing to study elsewhere and places like Ipswich, Lowestoft and even Needham Market do have a fairly young population compared to the rural villages which are mostly OAPs…
Do people here just burn out quicker and move on, does everyone have kids here by the time they are 25 and can’t be fucked with raving any more or are people just totally put off by the heavy poliice anti-rave actions and clampdowns on noise/late night activities?
I think thats utter bullshit. I know many regualr ravers round this area from like 15 to bout 40/45.
May 16, 2006 at 7:17 pm #1072477K_trina wrote:I think thats utter bullshit. I know many regualr ravers round this area from like 15 to bout 40/45.you live on the Norfolk borders though…. People are a bit more indulgent towards this sort of stuff there…(how much longer for I don’t know though)…
I’m talking about the area nearer the Essex border…. Before I moved here I checked out loads of sites/on line communities, got in touch with a few people from the area and I’ve got the impression that Southern Suffolk / North Essex did have a scene but the areas got rinsed and there was a backlash – so people were genuinely put off by clampdowns or just gave up.
I’ve not seen many ravers from Ipswich on messageboards either – not here, SJ or anywhere else. Or even people from Colchester…or other places the other side of the Stour..
A few clubbers on dontstayin but even they go to Norwich…
Most ravers (at least the online ones) are from Norwich and surrounding areas.
There are a handful of people near Bury, some of whom I’ve been in touch with but where are the rest? Ipswich is a fucking huge town compared to many other places round here – there are as many young people as Norwich….
May 16, 2006 at 7:45 pm #1072496General Lighting wrote:you live on the Norfolk borders though…. People are a bit more indulgent towards this sort of stuff there…(how much longer for I don’t know though)…I’m talking about the area nearer the Essex border…. Before I moved here I checked out loads of sites/on line communities, got in touch with a few people from the area and I’ve got the impression that Southern Suffolk / North Essex did have a scene but the areas got rinsed and there was a backlash – so people were genuinely put off by clampdowns or just gave up.
I’ve not seen many ravers from Ipswich on messageboards either – not here, SJ or anywhere else. Or even people from Colchester…or other places the other side of the Stour..
A few clubbers on dontstayin but even they go to Norwich…
Most ravers (at least the online ones) are from Norwich and surrounding areas.
There are a handful of people near Bury, some of whom I’ve been in touch with but where are the rest? Ipswich is a fucking huge town compared to many other places round here – there are as many young people as Norwich….
Oh right. Didnt realise u were talking about Essex.
But on the topic f forums etc, just because there doesn’t seem to be ravers who go on forums from these areas, doesn’t mean there aren’t any. I mean, only a really small percentage of my “raver” friends use a forum, 🙂
May 16, 2006 at 7:59 pm #1072478K_trina wrote:Oh right. Didnt realise u were talking about Essex.AFAIK Ipswich isn’t in Essex – unless the coastal erosion has shifted the borders. I’ve spent time in Essex and it is even worse TBH…I think its the only place where a crew person has actually gone to jail for doing an unlicensed rave.
Quote:But on the topic f forums etc, just because there doesn’t seem to be ravers who go on forums from these areas, doesn’t mean there aren’t any. I mean, only a really small percentage of my “raver” friends use a forum, 🙂True, but I have been exploring the town quite a bit recently…. I haven’t even seen things like record shops, headshops etc or even heard garys playing “rave” music in their cars like you do in Reading where I used to live! You don’t even see stuff like house parties or “student” areas in town..
May 16, 2006 at 8:07 pm #1072497General Lighting wrote:AFAIK Ipswich isn’t in Essex – unless the coastal erosion has shifted the borders. I’ve spent time in Essex and it is even worse TBH…I think its the only place where a crew person has actually gone to jail for doing an unlicensed rave.True, but I have been exploring the town quite a bit recently…. I haven’t even seen things like record shops, headshops etc or even heard garys playing “rave” music in their cars like you do in Reading where I used to live! You don’t even see stuff like house parties or “student” areas in town..
Yes I know ipswich isn’t essex I knw essex, used to live in romford 🙂 I didnt realise u said “essex BORDER”. aNYWAY, i HAVE NO IDEA BOUT IPSWICH as Im not from there….but all my mates who live there go to the parties I go to. But to be fair, there aren’t many miles between Norwich and Ipswich are there really? So I guess wat Im tryin to say is, there aren’t two different scenes around this area…its jus the one. 🙂
May 17, 2006 at 10:59 am #1072511Sorry theres no real hope for you in ipswich,
most of my family live there an its not really endorsed the rave culture, everyone seems happy enough to stay punks or goths ect, and eat shit loads of cheap speed,
i live near cambridge an got into the scene quite young, as i live 3/4 mins from the heydon barns an met a local rave crew through college (respect to du),
i have cousins of the same age in ipswich an they just havent heard of raves, or free partys or anything close to underground dance music ect
its not that there not the type, they took rugs a few yrs b4 i started, its jus theres nothing to push them towards raves
you can get spangled in most pubs with out hassle, except drunk thugs swinging at anything in front of them, so theres no real need to set up free partys for freedom to use drugs
i doubt the pigs would handle partys to well round there either, there used to voilent drunks, not loved up hippys, so they’d probably bring down the roit gear an take no prisioners
ill hook you up with some numbers for cambridge if u want, its only 45mins drive or an hour on train, theres 3 crews in the town so theres summint monthly at least, an u definitly wudnt be the oldest person there, thanks to our ravin grandad rufus
i have to agree tho in east anglia it does seem to be under 25’s only, i suppose its quite a pricy area to live an peeps cant afford to party all night long and keep up morgage repay ments
also theres only farm land in the surrouding country side, nothing left to waste/or rave on
theres lots of common land around cambridge so we have areas that the pigs cant kick us off (unless we take the piss)
get in contact if you wanna head over to cambridge for a party, ill set you some numbers
an you have my simpathys for living in ipswich, i know whats its like
May 17, 2006 at 11:11 am #1072491I’m from colchester in essex there is no rave scene in essex anymore really. I dont go to norfolk though i go to london.
I know one of my old skool mates whos a good 15 years my senior was there at the beggining at one of the first raves at an abandoned airfield, and that was in essex, but then all the leah betts shit happened and it got too big and imploded. at least thats the way i see it.
Also my friend says that the older crew who she started raving with still go raving but do small parties, 50 odd people mainly of the older generation.
May 17, 2006 at 11:35 am #1072479thanks for the replies! Ipswich does seem a bit like its still in the 1980s. I was amused to see goths and punks in the street again just like I did in Reading when I was a young teenager there..
A few other people I know mentioned that Essex was clamped down on in the wake of the Leah Betts incident; when a senior cops’ daughter dies clearly they are gonna make it personal even if it was their own fault due to anti-drugs paranoia which made her drink so much water. It was a while ago but cops have long memories…. Essex was also one of the first areas to bring full PEL prosecutions.
Years ago a crew called Pulse 8 did do warehouse parties in Ipswich but there was not only an outcry from locals but also fighting and overdoses, plus some unfortunate drowned in the Orwell (there is a sluice running through town and he must have bumbled into it whilst messed)
Its a pity not being able to find parties “on your doorstep” like I used to or even that many like minded people but its good to hear of people relatively nearby – will be in touch…
May 17, 2006 at 4:37 pm #1072487Nah! sorry, have to disagree with you there GL… there is an older presence at parties, just like everywhere else..
there are several rigs that have been about for many yrs lying dormant (BUT NOT DEAD YET!) in the lock ups of norfolk and suffolk, and even in n. essex.. all due to the recent policies of the local OBs.. (and remember, with age comes wisdom, thus it is the older rigs that are more cautious in the present climate)
i have been partying round here for the same length of time you have been on the scene round the thames valley area..and dont think there is much of a difference between east anglia and anywhere else..
Oh, and Ipswich is a soulless Sh#thole.. dont judge the whole region by your experiences so far in Ipswich!
I WILL go partying soon, when i can be arsed, and will give you a shout for sure
this is my longest post in ages… off for a wee lie down to recover!
May 17, 2006 at 4:40 pm #1072484gv23 wrote:I WILL go partying soon, when i can be arsed, and will give you a shout for surethis is my longest post in ages… off for a wee lie down to recover!
Same thing from me mate. I’ll be out soon. I can’t resist the sunshine to be honest. I’ll contact you when I do GL.
*Bio-Tech brings Gv23 his slippers and passes a mug of cocoa*
May 17, 2006 at 5:01 pm #1072480gv23 wrote:Nah! sorry, have to disagree with you there GL… there is an older presence at parties, just like everywhere else..there are several rigs that have been about for many yrs lying dormant (BUT NOT DEAD YET!) in the lock ups of norfolk and suffolk, and even in n. essex.. all due to the recent policies of the local OBs.. (and remember, with age comes wisdom, thus it is the older rigs that are more cautious in the present climate)
fair enough; if raves end up with riot cops always being deployed to fight teenagers clearly there is gonna be a backlash and no area is gonna sit back and just watch these events happen when whole villages are being woken up.
Quote:i have been partying round here for the same length of time you have been on the scene round the thames valley area..and dont think there is much of a difference between east anglia and anywhere else..yep – thats true, people rinse all the areas then a backlash happens, and when you are more settled in life its fair enough you don’t want hassle like dealing with the criminal justice system or massive financial losses..
same thing happened in Thames Valley and there have been a few changes amongst crews because of it.
Looks like the mix of people is about the same amongst ravers but there are local differences such as terrain and land usage patterns (don’t want to say too much more in public just in case though)
I suppose I’m just getting used to being “out on a limb” and not knowing that many people from my new locality… plus I’m wary of just speaking to randoms about raves these days….
May 17, 2006 at 6:10 pm #1072498gv23 wrote:Nah! sorry, have to disagree with you there GL… there is an older presence at parties, just like everywhere else..there are several rigs that have been about for many yrs lying dormant (BUT NOT DEAD YET!) in the lock ups of norfolk and suffolk, and even in n. essex.. all due to the recent policies of the local OBs.. (and remember, with age comes wisdom, thus it is the older rigs that are more cautious in the present climate)
i have been partying round here for the same length of time you have been on the scene round the thames valley area..and dont think there is much of a difference between east anglia and anywhere else..
Oh, and Ipswich is a soulless Sh#thole.. dont judge the whole region by your experiences so far in Ipswich!
I WILL go partying soon, when i can be arsed, and will give you a shout for sure
this is my longest post in ages… off for a wee lie down to recover!
Yes u bloody well shud do!! Aint seen u for ages!!! Hope ur well x
May 19, 2006 at 4:31 pm #1072488K_trina wrote:Yes u bloody well shud do!! Aint seen u for ages!!! Hope ur well xyup! i need someone to hassle me about it incessantly on saturdays until i give in and go to a party……
oh.. and Biotech.. ta for the slippers and cocoa (acidfairy is always on about that too)
can you tell nurse my bag needs changing
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