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November 7, 2006 at 10:03 pm #1039775
What age do you think it’s reasonable for people to get involved with free parties and the whole lifestyle, drink, drugs, dancing all night… you know what i mean. At a few parties recently I have seen the odd kid as young as 10 and i think that its awful. Avin it before your 16 cant be a good idea… Anyway would be interested to see what you all thought
November 7, 2006 at 10:11 pm #1093750i started going to punk gigs when i was 12 … i looked older and could get served at the bar
was 15 when i went to my first rave. looking back it was pretty young … i basically left school at the same time, but that was because of how my school treated me like shit, not because i was partying
had a few harsh years after that mentally because i was caining it, but then again, i was partying with 30 year olds who also fucked themselves up a bit. at least i had youth on my side and plenty of time to sort my life out andkeep raving in a more responsible way
November 7, 2006 at 10:12 pm #1093762I think that parents should take their kids to parties..
They are the future ravers,they might as well join in early..
I’m sure that to a party not everybody is stoned,drunk or acting stupid.There
should be people around to watch them..And maybe the people behave
better when there are kids around..
IMHO.
November 7, 2006 at 10:15 pm #1093767See where your coming from. But I’ve seen kids who look about 10 smoking joints, and looking like there on E. Im all for bring in the next generation but if you grow up like so young it can only worsen with age…
November 7, 2006 at 10:20 pm #1093763I agree..
But I guess these kids dont have responsible parents..
November 7, 2006 at 10:25 pm #1093768True. Gotta draw the line somewhere between too much too young and introducing the next generation to the scene.
November 7, 2006 at 11:51 pm #1093751it’s hard to put an age limit on it. people grow up at different rates
November 8, 2006 at 1:13 am #1093755^^^word.
It is hard to say, I went to my first party when I was like 14/15, so that age?!
November 8, 2006 at 8:10 am #1093758i was a good boy and didnt go ravin or do harder drugs till i was 16, but tbh id only heard of ravin about 2 years before that!
November 8, 2006 at 9:13 am #1093745I actually don’t think most raves are any less safe for children than letting them go to a local funfair or park, or play together on the streets in most estates and villages There are plenty of class A drug users and violent people in “normal society” and raves are actually fairly positive occasions when run well. People look out for any kids they see.
IMO though these children should really attend events only with their parents – and their parents (however progressive their views may be) should discourage them from taking drugs until their 15 or so….
I know a few older people who have teenage or young adult kids and they go raving together!
I started taking drugs at age 15 – didn’t go raving until age 18/19 though
bear in mind that there weren’t quite as many raves in 1988/9 unless you had £25 for the entry fee, £15-20 per pill it was a rich persons’ game until the spiral tribe/squatter/traveller lot brought it to the masses!
the problems with early drug use aren’t not so much the case they will die/get dread diseases/go mad – but that you can’t be arsed with studying and high school if you are taking drugs and stay up late – so parents must be prepared to accept lower school/college grades or that their kid may not want to attend University immediately at age 19 (or at all!).
Also drugs are far easier to get and cheaper nowadays – so an amount enough to start causing you problems at an earlier age is well within the budget of most teenagers today.
The quicker people start and escalate their use the quicker they can burn out if they overdo things…
November 8, 2006 at 10:12 am #1093770Anonymous
i now boys as young as nine that goes to free parties, pissed right up, ummm smoking joints , even some of them was pilling. but these are the types of boys that now how to stick up for them slefs some of there mothers or fathers were there. i fink the age should be bout 10 its better for them to go to free partys then beeing on the streets causing trouble. i learnt alot from that. i dont think there nothing wong with young kids going to the free partys . afterall there there for a good time so y not, they only do what we do . then again every body to there own opoion. luv babay xx xxx xx:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
November 8, 2006 at 11:05 am #1093764The partys we organise these days are often attended by up to three generations so there are always a few kids and even babys,I see no harm in children attending as like General lighting says there are a lot more dangerous things they could be doing and mostly there are responsible people to keep a loose eye out for any trouble they may get into.As for drug taking (again I agree with GL) Children are rarely there without thier parents and are discouraged from doing drugs,if theyre parents are not there then close friends know the score and will keep an eye out for them anyway.
November 8, 2006 at 1:05 pm #1093749I’m just echoing the same as what everybody else has said but I think it’s not so bad for kids to be at parties as long as they are supervised and accompanied by responsible people. Although taking drugs is definitely a bad idea until they reach an age where they can look after themsleves and make an educated decision. I have heard stories of people seeing young kids with “polos” round their nose and that is most defintely out of order!
I started going to parties/raves when I was 13 but I had my brother and a lot of his mates looking out for me, plus they ran the nights themselves so I could get to safe areas if needs be.
November 8, 2006 at 1:14 pm #1093752BioTech wrote:seeing young kids with “polos” round their noseI like that description lol…
BioTech wrote:I started going to parties/raves when I was 13 but I had my brother and a lot of his mates looking out for me, plus they ran the nights themselves so I could get to safe areas if needs be.Yup i went to parties at about that age with my big cousin he an his mates took me along..
I know a lot of people that take their kids to parties up here mainly ones that are going to last a weekend and they bring their tents and the kids have a great time.. the adults look after them and most of us help out too we don’t mind.. at most of the parties we’re at the people that bring their kids know a lot of us and to be honest there is very little risk of anything happening to them
I have however seen some kids that look about 10 totally smashed and that i do think is wrong..November 8, 2006 at 1:37 pm #1093746TBH the early onset of alcohol/drug use is a linked but seperate issue..
I knew all about drugs by age 13 or so but didn’t actually want to use them until age 15 – by that time I had already got interested in “acid house” music and the “hip house/street soul” genres and heard that the use of drugs could enhance enjoyment of this music.
I think kids do have their childhoods limited by consumerism which is far more of a driver towards “growing up too quick” than raves or party drugs culture..
November 8, 2006 at 1:52 pm #1093747Also I think people often underestimate others’ ages.
I think a lot of those “kids” are actually about 13-16 rather than 10-12 – still a bit early to start drugs but not that young
If you’re a bit shorter and “young looking” its easy to look way younger than you actually are – at raves most people who see me (and don’t know me) think I am about 18-22 (not that I’m complaining :laugh_at:)
November 8, 2006 at 5:09 pm #1093769Yeh don’t get me wrong, i think at times its a great place for kids, gives them a chance to see a better side of humanity, people being friendly and looking out for each other, rather than brawling down the local. But i also think that if people grow up seeing ppl on ketamine barely able to walk, they could see that as normality which could have knock on effects futher on in life. Under the right parenting i think parties would be a great experience for a kid, as long as they are talked through the experience and dangers of drugs, not just encouraged to do them.
November 8, 2006 at 8:04 pm #1093760I dont mind kids at parties :groucho:
I do think that they need to be closely supervised and ideally there with their parents [who must be prepared to be held responsible for what happens to the kids at the parties].
The children should be made aware of the negative [as well as the positive] consequences of all forms of drug use – whether legal or not – so that they can make an informed choice. If they are old enough to go to parties they are old enough to need to know the risks and harm reduction measures – the information may save their lives if they do decide to experiment:crazy:.
November 8, 2006 at 8:08 pm #1093748TBH provided the drug users aren’t being aggressive, even if they are totally mashed I don’t think its going to encourage younger kids to get into the same state, any more than their own uncles or dad drunk at Christmas would do so!
November 8, 2006 at 8:09 pm #1093761yeah – their vanity kicks in and they dont want to be seen vomiting/falling about drunk etc.
November 9, 2006 at 5:36 pm #1093753i dont think id take my daughter to a party, If i did take her to a party, it would be something like a summer planet yes, and get other mums to come along with their kids, and host a kids area. Id feel a bit more unsure about letting her go as a young teenager, unless i knew she was well educated on drugs etc, and know how to make the right choices. I wouldnt force raving on her, and would wait till she asked me about it. Id rather take her to the summer festivals than to raves tbh, festivals have alot more for kids to do, generally raves are simply there for the loud music and getting off yer face, and im not sure thats an environment id intoroduce my kids into. Im not sure id be able to explain to a 6 yr old why there were people wobbling about with white stuff under their noses…………
November 9, 2006 at 7:20 pm #1093759i dunno i was always being taken to festivals when by my parents when i was younger to see people like the levellers and other bands, dont think it was a bad thing, and was always funny to see older people acting silly:weee:
November 9, 2006 at 10:34 pm #1093756jed_22 wrote:What age do you think it’s reasonable for people to get involved with free parties and the whole lifestyle, drink, drugs, dancing all night… you know what i mean. At a few parties recently I have seen the odd kid as young as 10 and i think that its awful. Avin it before your 16 cant be a good idea… Anyway would be interested to see what you all thoughtohh baby ….here we go again …..i totally agree…but but but …!!! it depends on the setting …an the supervision if children are gonna be there….some hippys think its ok from birth to take kids …like travellers they think it normal ..some havent got kids so dont care….some think its a free oparty there for anybody can come ….im a mum …i wouldnt take mine to a all niter but sadly i have seen toddlers an very young children …me personaly i was upset …it was a outdoor party..but like 5am with no provisions for kids banging techno …not good …..x.x.x
November 9, 2006 at 10:35 pm #1093757i love hippies by the way ….my uncle was one …!:love:
November 11, 2006 at 7:10 pm #1093754Well…
I took mushrooms and smoked dope LONG before I had even heard of a rave (had my first mushroom trip at age 10, but my mum reckons she ate 1 or 2 when she was pregnant with me!!). I took my first trip at a Spiral Tribe “Festi” in Bala in north wales and continued to take acid in the countryside without techno for ages afterwards.
When I was about 16ish my mum came allong to a rave and I gave her her first trip for about 20 years – she loved it and now does more hallucinogens than I do!
I love seeing kids at parties because they seem to have their own rave on sugar at knee height! Responsible parenting is the key.
My main worry is seeing my parents at parties (I guess resposible parent-sitting is the key here)!
(Yes, I do come from a hippy family in case you hadn’t worked it out yet!!)
Kids on drugs is always gonna be a worry whether they are at a rave or not. Kids at raves with their mates is fine, but families at raves is brilliant. However, kids going ferral at a rave because their parents are too fucked to parent them is a dangerous combination.
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