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April 15, 2013 at 7:21 pm #1271721
I may be wrong. But this is very educating on the topic The Qur’an and the Story of the Talking Ants
April 15, 2013 at 7:23 pm #1271683@Lshak 540656 wrote:
Just what is happening in our society man..!! Deeper than all the wars, the covering up they are using the wars for, what they are doing in the background. Social conditioning with everything.
Did you know, coca cola cans in a mirror says ‘no Mohammed no Makkah’ it’s a Jewish based drink, the Israelites are taking over the world and destroying it, making you think of global warming and many other shit when it is all them changing it.
Get. The. FUCK. Out.
April 15, 2013 at 7:27 pm #1271722@barrettone 540659 wrote:
Get. The. FUCK. Out.
Haha I take it your Jewish? There is a big difference between Zionism and Judaism, I should’ve probably stated. BUT Zionism Does originate from the Israelis.
April 15, 2013 at 7:30 pm #1271684Yeah and I don’t appreciate my entire culture being turned into some demonic cult intent on enslaving the world.
There are some bad zionists, but zionism is not really an inherently bad philosophy. At its core it supports the idea of a Jewish nation so they may be free from the persecution suffered over history. GEE HOW HORRIBLE.
That’s not to say I agree with everything Israel does, they are pretty terrible at times, especially with Likud in power. But please, don’t make anti-semitic comments under the shroud of “anti-zionism.” It’s disingenuous.
April 15, 2013 at 7:38 pm #1271723@barrettone 540663 wrote:
Yeah and I don’t appreciate my entire culture being turned into some demonic cult intent on enslaving the world.
There are some bad zionists, but zionism is not really an inherently bad philosophy. At its core it supports the idea of a Jewish nation so they may be free from the persecution suffered over history. GEE HOW HORRIBLE.
That’s not to say I agree with everything Israel does, they are pretty terrible at times, especially with Likud in power. But please, don’t make anti-semitic comments under the shroud of “anti-zionism.” It’s disingenuous.
Well that was not my intent but it is true, and now you can see how us muslims feel, but lets be honest, Palestine IS PALESTINE Israel should never have existed. If any other country raided another and claimed it there’s, ww3 would occur … Just Israelis rule the media so they can feed wrong information cause other wars around the world to distract the public eye from what is happening to Palestine. free free Palestine.
But I’m sure you know this, and I’m not saying every Jew is bad, JUST THE MINORITY IN POWER.
And yes that is bad, its basically creating a race from Jews and killing off everyone else, which is what is happening… I don’t condone in any way shape or form but maybe hitler saw the extreme Zionism in its true form. I don’t mean to offend you in any kind, but this is a possibility is it not? Just like people have assumed dirty things about islam.
April 15, 2013 at 7:41 pm #1271810This is all I have to say on the Israel vs Palestine debate, but I won’t choose sides (I’m not educated enough)
BUT AFAIK Zionism is racist as it states Jews’ can’t live in a society with everyone else (correct me if i’m wrong, as stated i’m not educated enough this is just what I know)April 15, 2013 at 7:44 pm #1271724@DeezNuts 540674 wrote:
This is all I have to say on the Israel vs Palestine debate, but I won’t choose sides (I’m not educated enough)
BUT AFAIK Zionism is racist as it states Jews’ can’t live in a society with everyone else (correct me if i’m wrong, as stated i’m not educated enough this is just what I know)Videos not loading ATM for me, but I will watch it.
It states that BECAUSE they don’t want their Jewish family mixing with others as they want to keep their blood ‘pure’ and within the same bloodline
April 15, 2013 at 7:47 pm #1271811@Lshak 540679 wrote:
Videos not loading ATM for me, but I will watch it.
It states that BECAUSE they don’t want their Jewish family mixing with others as they want to keep their blood ‘pure’ and within the same bloodline
So why are you anti-semitic? Not all Jews are Zionist..
April 15, 2013 at 7:50 pm #1271778I dont have a coke can to hand, but Im pretty sure in the mirror it would sale ‘aloC acoC’ and maybe ‘gniht laer eht ylnO’ which just looks like a drunk text to me
@ Lshak, mate you are a religious nut, dont fight it, embrace the madness. From what Ive seen religious nuts tend to be very content in their delusions so enjoy the ride, and you never know, there might be a 1 in a googol chance that your right
April 15, 2013 at 7:52 pm #1271685@DeezNuts 540674 wrote:
This is all I have to say on the Israel vs Palestine debate, but I won’t choose sides (I’m not educated enough)
BUT AFAIK Zionism is racist as it states Jews’ can’t live in a society with everyone else (correct me if i’m wrong, as stated i’m not educated enough this is just what I know)There are lots of different kinds of zionism. The general common thread between them is the belief in the establishment of a Jewish state where they can live. Some zionists/divisions of zionism are pretty racist and nasty, but that is not all zionism.
Jews encompass a rather large (although relatively small globally) cultural group though. Who are this “minority in power” and why are they all bad? Even a family like the Rothschilds is quite large and I know a few of them and they are pretty nice (one of them was my Theory of Knowledge teacher.)
I might as well say the MINORITY IN POWER in Islam are bad, and that terrorism comes straight from the Qu’ran. Just because people do that doesn’t make it ok to do it to others.
To be honest I have no idea what you’re going on about in this topic. I doubt Katy Perry even knows what DMT is (not a lot of people outside knowledgeable drug users do) and there is no huge plot to dominate the world. Lots of powerful groups are actually opposed to each other or have completely different goals so there’s no conceivable reason they would work together.
And as for the “legality” of Israel that is neither here nor there. I don’t really agree with a lot of things that happened during the creation of Israel but what do you expect now? All the people who are there to just pack up and go? Do you know the history of the region? Most of the Palestinians were nomads before the Jews started emigrating there. Failures by the British Government and by UNSCOP helped lead to the current situation, as well as fucked up stuff going on within the zionist movement. But really, it is now what it is and the focus should be on a viable two-state solution because you’re not going to displace the 7 million people who live there.
April 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm #1271725@DeezNuts 540682 wrote:
So why are you anti-semitic? Not all Jews are Zionist..
I did say it was the minority, read above man. I’m just saying zionists are trying to protect their roots and brothers from all angles.
And I’ll say something about hitler, I was probably wrong with what I last said, this is most likely the truth:
The rockerfellas and rothschilds funded hitler to kill Jewish people to make them think Jewish people are the victims when its just an illusion to further help their cause to make Jewish people look innocent and victimised when they are gaining power from people probably giving charity to them.
April 15, 2013 at 7:55 pm #1271726@Mezz 540683 wrote:
I dont have a coke can to hand, but Im pretty sure in the mirror it would sale ‘aloC acoC’ and maybe ‘gniht laer eht ylnO’ which just looks like a drunk text to me
@ Lshak, mate you are a religious nut, dont fight it, embrace the madness. From what Ive seen religious nuts tend to be very content in their delusions so enjoy the ride, and you never know, there might be a 1 in a googol chance that your right
In arabic it says this.
Ok, at least I have faith and believe! A quote from someone along the lines of “the craziest people and things are sometimes the most real”. Now go crawl back into your dark cave and carry On watching adverts telling you to BUY BUY BUY! FUND THE WAR FUND THE WAR FUND THE WAR!! JOIN THE ARMY JOIN THE ARMY JOIN THE ARMY!!
April 15, 2013 at 8:02 pm #1271686@Lshak 540688 wrote:
I did say it was the minority, read above man. I’m just saying zionists are trying to protect their roots and brothers from all angles.
And I’ll say something about hitler, I was probably wrong with what I last said, this is most likely the truth:
The rockerfellas and rothschilds funded hitler to kill Jewish people to make them think Jewish people are the victims when its just an illusion to further help their cause to make Jewish people look innocent and victimised when they are gaining power from people probably giving charity to them.
Lol are you trolling? You seriously believe that? Jews funded the extermination of their own people? There’s really no arguing with you man.
April 15, 2013 at 8:05 pm #1271812@Lshak 540688 wrote:
The rockerfellas and rothschilds funded hitler to kill Jewish people to make them think Jewish people are the victims when its just an illusion to further help their cause to make Jewish people look innocent and victimised when they are gaining power from people probably giving charity to them.
Man, I’m really sorry, I was trying to be rational and civilised with you but you are a fucking moron if you believe that. I mean really dude?
Please do me, PV, your family and more importantly yourself a favour and go see your GP and ask for a mental health check up or something – i’m not saying this to be nasty, you seem to have changed drastically in a short amount of time and some of the things you’re posting are quite worrying..
April 15, 2013 at 8:06 pm #1271727@barrettone 540686 wrote:
There are lots of different kinds of zionism. The general common thread between them is the belief in the establishment of a Jewish state where they can live. Some zionists/divisions of zionism are pretty racist and nasty, but that is not all zionism.
Jews encompass a rather large (although relatively small globally) cultural group though. Who are this “minority in power” and why are they all bad? Even a family like the Rothschilds is quite large and I know a few of them and they are pretty nice (one of them was my Theory of Knowledge teacher.)
I might as well say the MINORITY IN POWER in Islam are bad, and that terrorism comes straight from the Qu’ran. Just because people do that doesn’t make it ok to do it to others.
To be honest I have no idea what you’re going on about in this topic. I doubt Katy Perry even knows what DMT is (not a lot of people outside knowledgeable drug users do) and there is no huge plot to dominate the world. Lots of powerful groups are actually opposed to each other or have completely different goals so there’s no conceivable reason they would work together.
And as for the “legality” of Israel that is neither here nor there. I don’t really agree with a lot of things that happened during the creation of Israel but what do you expect now? All the people who are there to just pack up and go? Do you know the history of the region? Most of the Palestinians were nomads before the Jews started emigrating there. Failures by the British Government and by UNSCOP helped lead to the current situation, as well as fucked up stuff going on within the zionist movement. But really, it is now what it is and the focus should be on a viable two-state solution because you’re not going to displace the 7 million people who live there.
Fuck off you know them and they are nice.. Maybe to you, but not to the rest of the world outside their power crazy group.
And that’s why you have read the Quran and not believed it, you are more conditioned than anyone man!And your right, but their image is portrayed wrongly, as suicidal terrorists, they are fighting for their people and religion, just in the wrong ways but probably the only way to make a statement in such a poor country (now anyways) and conditions
Mate, she married one of the biggest druggies, how can she not know what it is, Russell brand definitely has been exposed to this shit (the Jeffrey in get him to the Greek) …That’s what they want you to think, and of course not, but with money comes power and people will do anything for greed.
Very interesting, but they shouldn’t have just moved in in the first place, would you allow 7 people to just move into your home and leave you with nothing but your bed, not even bedroom? Of course fuc***g not! And neither would this government, but they allowed Palestine to disappear and soon be gone all together
April 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm #1271779@Lshak 540690 wrote:
In arabic it says this.
Ok, at least I have faith and believe! A quote from someone along the lines of “the craziest people and things are sometimes the most real”. Now go crawl back into your dark cave and carry On watching adverts telling you to BUY BUY BUY! FUND THE WAR FUND THE WAR FUND THE WAR!! JOIN THE ARMY JOIN THE ARMY JOIN THE ARMY!!
lol Sorry mate your way off base, I despise adverts and consumerist crap, but you know what, I really would like a cave, not totally dark, bit of mood lighting : )
April 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm #1271652AnonymousI hate it. Completely and utterly.
April 15, 2013 at 8:08 pm #1271728@DeezNuts 540695 wrote:
Man, I’m really sorry, I was trying to be rational and civilised with you but you are a fucking moron if you believe that. I mean really dude?
Please do me, PV, your family and more importantly yourself a favour and go see your GP and ask for a mental health check up or something – i’m not saying this to be nasty, you seem to have changed drastically in a short amount of time and some of the things you’re posting are quite worrying..
Mate, I don’t take anything into offensive, these are theories and conspiracies, I find them so fascinating. Doesn’t mean I believe them with all my heart, unlike I do islam.
They are interesting, debatable subjects and quite possibly true, tell me, why else would he go on a massacre and get away with it for so long? Why didn’t they just drop a nuke on them like they did Japan, simples…
April 15, 2013 at 8:10 pm #1271729@Mezz 540698 wrote:
lol Sorry mate your way off base, I despise adverts and consumerist crap, but you know what, I really would like a cave, not totally dark, bit of mood lighting : )
Good, we are getting somewhere. I wouldn’t mind a jungle, a cave is too depressing. A jungle to be free in with nature, almost like Tarzan, you can have your blue light. Ill have my sun 🙂 unless you’d like to join me in my jungle? Lol
April 15, 2013 at 8:13 pm #1271813@Lshak 540705 wrote:
Mate, I don’t take anything into offensive, these are theories and conspiracies, I find them so fascinating. Doesn’t mean I believe them with all my heart, unlike I do islam.
They are interesting, debatable subjects and quite possibly true, tell me, why else would he go on a massacre and get away with it for so long? Why didn’t they just drop a nuke on them like they did Japan, simples…
Because we weren’t aware of the holocaust then (or atleast the full extent of it), the nuke wasn’t developed when Europe was being liberated and it would have also killed many hundreds of thousands of innocent people without really ending the war as well as the Jews that they would have been protecting.
April 15, 2013 at 8:15 pm #1271780Nah, Jungles are dangerous places, I thought the cave would appeal to you, natural habitat for a troll lol
I do however understand the Palestinians being pissed about Israel, after all it is the last territory still under occupation from World War 2
But fucked if I want the UK to do anything about it, two sets of religious nutters want to fight, I’ll stay on the sidelines and take the bets, after all it’s a win win situation for them, they lose & die they go to heaven, they win they get the land and live happy ever after, none of my business unless they got lots of oil up for grabs
April 15, 2013 at 8:15 pm #1271687@Lshak 540697 wrote:
Fuck off you know them and they are nice.. Maybe to you, but not to the rest of the world outside their power crazy group.
And that’s why you have read the Quran and not believed it, you are more conditioned than anyone man!And your right, but their image is portrayed wrongly, as suicidal terrorists, they are fighting for their people and religion, just in the wrong ways but probably the only way to make a statement in such a poor country (now anyways) and conditions
Mate, she married one of the biggest druggies, how can she not know what it is, Russell brand definitely has been exposed to this shit (the Jeffrey in get him to the Greek) …That’s what they want you to think, and of course not, but with money comes power and people will do anything for greed.
Very interesting, but they shouldn’t have just moved in in the first place, would you allow 7 people to just move into your home and leave you with nothing but your bed, not even bedroom? Of course fuc***g not! And neither would this government, but they allowed Palestine to disappear and soon be gone all together
Yes I’ve been completely brainwashed to think rationally and not cry conspiracy at everything!!!!
“They are fighting for their people and religion.” Well so were the IRA and I don’t have much sympathy for them. I can even understand the reasoning behind stuff like 9/11 but that doesn’t mean I think that’s ok.
You’re right, they shouldn’t have moved in, but they did, and now Israel exists. What is your solution? Your analogy is extremely flawed. When the Jews first moved in there wasn’t really much of a Palestinian national sentiment but all of a sudden the people there were really angry and started organising violence against the Jews. Israel has done some pretty terrible things but to say that the Palestinians are completely blameless is again disingenuous and seems to tell me that you lack the ability to analyse nuance in international relations. It is not so black and white.
I don’t know how you’ve got to a point where you think everyone who disagrees with you has been “conditioned.”
April 15, 2013 at 8:16 pm #1271730@barrettone 540692 wrote:
Lol are you trolling? You seriously believe that? Jews funded the extermination of their own people? There’s really no arguing with you man.
Zionists, not Jews. Of course there is, we’re debating right now. You have your beliefs I have man, just don’t call me crazy because I have different views on things. We all see through different perspectives …
April 15, 2013 at 8:19 pm #1271731@Mezz 540714 wrote:
Nah, Jungles are dangerous places, I thought the cave would appeal to you, natural habitat for a troll lol
I do however understand the Palestinians being pissed about Israel, after all it is the last territory still under occupation from World War 2
But fucked if I want the UK to do anything about it, two sets of religious nutters want to fight, I’ll stay on the sidelines and take the bets, after all it’s a win win situation for them, they lose & die they go to heaven, they win they get the land and live happy ever after, none of my business unless they got lots of oil up for grabs
Well that’s why I suggested it to you funnily enough. But speaking of caves, the Internet and your bedroom is probably more or less like one, I can imagine. Go get some sunlight man, open a curtain.
That’s good, some education at least 🙂 I don’t mean to be patronising just very proud.
Well that’s where stupid mentality comes into the equation. Stupid, ignorant and selfish. You need to change your attitude, how old are you?
April 15, 2013 at 8:21 pm #1271688@Mezz 540714 wrote:
Nah, Jungles are dangerous places, I thought the cave would appeal to you, natural habitat for a troll lol
I do however understand the Palestinians being pissed about Israel, after all it is the last territory still under occupation from World War 2
But fucked if I want the UK to do anything about it, two sets of religious nutters want to fight, I’ll stay on the sidelines and take the bets, after all it’s a win win situation for them, they lose & die they go to heaven, they win they get the land and live happy ever after, none of my business unless they got lots of oil up for grabs
I think religion has started to have very little to do with it to be honest. I know plenty of Israelis who aren’t all that religious at all. It’s more of a political dispute nowadays, at least from the Israeli perspective. Hamas may be more religiously motivated. But yeah, it’s a pretty shitty conflict and I just wish it would end. Sadly nutters managed to kill Yitzhak Rabin and set back the peace process by at least 30 years. He was a good man. It is also a shame Arafat died when he did. Those two did more for peace than anyone else in the history of that conflict.
@Lshak 540717 wrote:
Zionists, not Jews. Of course there is, we’re debating right now. You have your beliefs I have man, just don’t call me crazy because I have different views on things. We all see through different perspectives …
I will call you crazy because it is really crazy to think “Zionists” killed Jews to further their political agenda. Six million (and now it’s been found to be even more http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/sunday-review/the-holocaust-just-got-more-shocking.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) people were systematically murdered and you think their own people conspired to do this? That’s like half the Jewish population of Europe. People they would have known.
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