don’t really listen to the up to date radio streams, as Lshak so kindly reminded me yesterday I am well old

and yes – I listen to radio 4!

so not sure what I think of ‘current’ music, but I do believe music as in fashion tends to have a circular way to it – so Im sure I’ll love some popular music just by default

@Lshak 540383 wrote:

It’s brainwashing shit, and so much crazy symbolism to religion as well, its absolute madness, quite scary too…

Aw hope I didn’t hit a nerve ! I was only playing 😛

It’s some fu**ed up illuminati symbolism, which seems to be growing further out of control…

Honey, I’m joking,

If you knew me

you’d know I don’t give a flying fuck what other people think of me

I’m sure I said earlier- if I’m happy with me that’s all that counts

@Clusterfrog 540398 wrote:

Mostly shite, but I won’t automatically dislike something just because it’s mainstream.

until those in power realised that rave music had a strong pro-drugs element and censored it from daytime radio airplay to some extent artists were fighting each other like rats to get chart crossovers. Indeed when a genre becomes trendy they still do, it explains a lot of the violence on UKG and urban music scenes as everyone wants to get “out of the hood and earn money…” – violence (especially intimidating other artists and/or getting events locked off) is a way of disrupting the competition.

@Lshak 540408 wrote:

Ok, let’s start with her fake persona, she reaches her dressing room, she asks the crew member “do you think it’ll be good?” He replies “I think it’ll be amazing”, “good I have that feeling”- almost as if its the first time she will take DMT and asking for reassurance. takes it off her HEAD and falls into some kind of dream world…

Now, she is in between a kind of gate, with 2 pillars, in islam this is a big symbol towards going to heaven or hell.
So she enters a HUGE maze, she’s lost and confused, she’s searching for something but doesn’t know what, walking through the darkness with just a lantern.
She stumbles across a fruit, a single fruit in the darkness (the forbidden fruit). She’s starting to feel claustrophobic and as soon as she bites it an overwhelming surge of POWER enters her body, suddenly her ‘soul’ shoots out from her chest and into the sky almost like her breakthrough has began, she is then confronted by an innocent young girl who is depicted later on as herself.
She walks into a Long corridor which had a checkered floor, in the illuminati/free masonary, this is the floor of the final stage to becoming a part of their cult.

The girl is not visible in the mirror, she is a spirit/angel kind of entity. She looks in the mirror and the first photographer is some kind of demon, his face looks all burnt and distorted, more join him and are all taking pictures almost like dazzling and distracting her of what is to come, the girl notices it and gets her attention. Katy perry then proceeds to smash trough the glass (possible second breakthrough).

She becomes very ill, mentally and physically, being pushed by her angel in a wheel chair through a door in a hallway where she faces two demon looking guards, still in the process of holding the forbidden fruit. The girl advances and stands up to the demons, showing that no evil is as strong as any INNOCENCE AND PURITY. Katy perry is awakened from her ill minded state. They make it through the following door behind the demons, and they enter a kind of paradise after escaping what could have been her end and an almost mental asylum kind of place.

Once they enter the new world, you see this darkness all behind her, she made it out on the there side safe and sound, for now. She is then confronted by a charming man on a unicorn, a majestically beat, she is obviously lovestruck at first site (Russel brand) they are about to tie the bond (I think there is more to it than marriage) and she beats him down, while her surroundings have hypnotic eyes and trying to watch her and seemingly get her back. The girl is amazed in power in katy perry, they run to see the last stretch to paradise and high five for making it there, etc …

Now the lyrics I’m sure you can dissect yourself, let me just say “cloud nine” being your state while on dmt, because is it or not a feeling of complete bliss and amazingness? And she is now falling from that cloud into hell, which she fights through and makes t out better on the other side.

Now for the second video, its all about DMT, her being possessed, and helping a ‘psychonaught’ into her world.

I’m very very interested in what her upcoming albums/life will be like.

Please analyse this.

[video=youtube_share;68ugkg9RePc]http://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc[/video]

@Lshak 540408 wrote:

Ok, let’s start with her fake persona, she reaches her dressing room, she asks the crew member “do you think it’ll be good?” He replies “I think it’ll be amazing”, “good I have that feeling”- almost as if its the first time she will take DMT and asking for reassurance. takes it off her HEAD and falls into some kind of dream world…

Now, she is in between a kind of gate, with 2 pillars, in islam this is a big symbol towards going to heaven or hell.
So she enters a HUGE maze, she’s lost and confused, she’s searching for something but doesn’t know what, walking through the darkness with just a lantern.
She stumbles across a fruit, a single fruit in the darkness (the forbidden fruit). She’s starting to feel claustrophobic and as soon as she bites it an overwhelming surge of POWER enters her body, suddenly her ‘soul’ shoots out from her chest and into the sky almost like her breakthrough has began, she is then confronted by an innocent young girl who is depicted later on as herself.
She walks into a Long corridor which had a checkered floor, in the illuminati/free masonary, this is the floor of the final stage to becoming a part of their cult.

The girl is not visible in the mirror, she is a spirit/angel kind of entity. She looks in the mirror and the first photographer is some kind of demon, his face looks all burnt and distorted, more join him and are all taking pictures almost like dazzling and distracting her of what is to come, the girl notices it and gets her attention. Katy perry then proceeds to smash trough the glass (possible second breakthrough).

She becomes very ill, mentally and physically, being pushed by her angel in a wheel chair through a door in a hallway where she faces two demon looking guards, still in the process of holding the forbidden fruit. The girl advances and stands up to the demons, showing that no evil is as strong as any INNOCENCE AND PURITY. Katy perry is awakened from her ill minded state. They make it through the following door behind the demons, and they enter a kind of paradise after escaping what could have been her end and an almost mental asylum kind of place.

Once they enter the new world, you see this darkness all behind her, she made it out on the there side safe and sound, for now. She is then confronted by a charming man on a unicorn, a majestically beat, she is obviously lovestruck at first site (Russel brand) they are about to tie the bond (I think there is more to it than marriage) and she beats him down, while her surroundings have hypnotic eyes and trying to watch her and seemingly get her back. The girl is amazed in power in katy perry, they run to see the last stretch to paradise and high five for making it there, etc …

Now the lyrics I’m sure you can dissect yourself, let me just say “cloud nine” being your state while on dmt, because is it or not a feeling of complete bliss and amazingness? And she is now falling from that cloud into hell, which she fights through and makes t out better on the other side.

Now for the second video, its all about DMT, her being possessed, and helping a ‘psychonaught’ into her world.

I’m very very interested in what her upcoming albums/life will be like.

I think you are over-analysing it dude. This is especially apparent as you are putting a spin on it that conforms to your particular beliefs.

To be fair, if you asked 100 people their thoughts on the ‘meaning’ behind these type of videos they would all come up with something different.

The mainstream music that bothers me the most is the stuff that encourages violence, glamorizes crime and advocates being disrespectful to women.

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Mainstream or popular music is mostly manufactured crap, just a product with a formula designed to appeal to the age range that buy the most music ( Teens ) by using the stereotypes or things that demographic respond to.

But there are exceptions, occasionally real music will breakthrough, sadly this is quickly imitated and mass produced

Just watched the first one, even had the volume up ensure I didnt miss anything even though it was an assault on the ears

Starts off with typical sexual images to grab the attention of teen boys, followed by showing her as insecure and craving approval underneath the fake image to get the attention of teen girls……………. pretty basic and overt methods of drawing in the demographic it’s aimed at

Then we get snow, usually used to represent cleanliness and purity, the strawberry I assume is what you mean by ‘forbidden fruit, I suppose the sampling of something new and delicious could be considered a sexual metaphor, the closing in walls could be considered social pressure, the explosion inside her an orgasm, then the images of her with the girl the loss of innocence & move from child to woman, the floor behind them collapsing showing there is no going back, punching out the prince charming figure might be refusing to conform ( teen girls always like the badboy not the good one their parents would approve of ), the the butterfly being released ( also works with birds ) usually means freedom. Cant say I saw anything specific to religion or drugs in this vid.

IMO this is a video is a crude representation of the girl maturing into a woman, probably created by someone who thought they were being clever & artistic when all they were really doing is following a simple recipe.

I might watch the 2nd clip later, I have to low a tolerance for crap to watch another right now

Mainstream music is (usually) just boring. But sometimes it’s all right. I like grunge and that was mainstream at one point. But traditional “pop music” what finds itself played on main radios nowadays and get turned into remixes for the big clubs is dull.

There are tons of youtube videos analysing illuminati symbolism in pop vids and pop culture. They clucth at so many straws. “Look, she covers her faceto show only her eye” or “See the guy playing the triangle, that represents the pyramid”

Even worse are the digital stream malfunctions of broadcasters “shapeshifting” in to their lizard form by accident. Some poor woman had a stroke whilst reporting and this has been held up as absolute proof of shapeshifters amongst us as she struggles to speak and her face sags.

@know_hope 540476 wrote:

when i was 3 i used to imagine that my teddies were alive, but they were just pretending not to be while i was looking. i even started talking to them at some point. then one day I realised, although this belief was pleasing in ways, and it brought me happiness, that it probably wasn’t true.

when i was 11, my granddad had a stroke and went into a coma that he didnt recover from. my mum and I went to the hospital and prayed for him. we began praying for him, and when asked if he was listening, he sat up and said ‘yes’ then lay back down. i think that was the last thing he did in this life. he died and this moment was a bonding/strengthening something between my mum and I and if we were feeling down we could talk about it, maybe her more as it was her dad. then as i moved away from the church this/these shared moment(s) were no longer discussed and an imaginary wall went up. i held onto this moment for a long time and then as i truly left theism in my heart i had to let this moment go. i felt bad mostly for my mum, who wanted to believe her dad was in a better place

im not sure what the point is here, lol, not mainstream music… oh, i guess the point is its tempting to have a selective intuition of events. overall i prefer the feeling that im not kidding myself, cos i feel like actually this does generate an amount of stress. its not a calm vibration that it should be if it were true

Totally get you mate, it’s all about perspective, you can take 3 people show them exactly the thing and they will see 3 different things, or even take 1 person and show them the same thing at 3 points in their lives and they will see 3 different things.

I would love to think of my Nan, Gramps & Cousin in some heavenly afterlife, would give anything for that to be true, lied to my baby sister telling her that was true, went along with other relatives beliefs that I would usually mock or debate because those beliefs gave them some comfort, and even though I have never been religious I did pray when they were ill.

But now years later with the wounds of loss not so fresh I cant bring myself to pretend or be hypocritical, I know really the only way they live on is in the good memories of them, and the positive influence they had.