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  • #1049743
    Tank Girl
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      anyone else watched the series?

      just finished blubbing and still feeling physically sick from tonight’s episode

      hard, harsh hitting, and the fact this sort of stuff happened and happens….. horrific and brave bit of TV I recon

      #1229570
      1984
      Participant

        only saw the first episode and found it really dull but I do need to give it another go

        #1229549
        General Lighting
        Moderator

          I no longer watch telly regularly, but still remember how bad England was in 1986 – although in reality more stable and safer than the rest of Europe, where much worse was happening!

          Its when I first started taking an interest in politics and criminology and realised that science wouldn’t solve everything (Chernobyl and Challenger happened that year).

          The only difference nearly 25 years later is a few more gadgets and relative aflluence. All the social tensions still remain.

          Violent incidents as depicted in the film that are is happening on my very doorstep (well OK about 20 – 40 miles away, not too far from Process and Biotech though. There’s loads of harsh stuff happening in my area, I can’t discuss it here for security reasons but anything on films/telly pales into insignificance when you realise it is permanently affecting the communities here…

          Worse, its not like the telly where revenge sorts things out – the vigilantés often come off as badly (such as the young chap who blackmailed two nonces and ended up being murdered)

          Although the cops are way better than they ever used to be at bringing violent scum to justice its at the expense of everyones freedom – such as well behaved folk also being subject to stuff like weapons checks, age checks, drugs testing at every opportunity as a small minority abuse freedom to control others (despite thatcho the 1980s permitted a massive rise in people individual liberty, particularly young folk).

          Ipswich is only relatively safe (compared to Colchester or London) because there is a strong and effective surveillance cordon around many areas, the events of and after December 2006 showed it is unfortunately necessary.

          #1229535
          Anonymous

            I really want to watch it but I haven’t had time, but I got a free this arvo so i might try and catch up with it on 4OD or something (:

            What happened in December 2006? o_O

            Where I live is pretty skanky. I was in a friend’s flat a few weeks ago with my mum and some guy was calling out the window and we thought he was playing around, but he’d had his throat cut :S I can’t remember if he lived or died but he had to be air lifted to hospital and it was really shocking (two more people later that day both got killed just the same). If people get themselves in trouble, I don’t really have any sympathy but I hate the thought of innocent people, like children, being pulled into these sort of things or even having to witness it all.

            #1229564
            Pike Tom Us
            Participant

              brilliant series!! alot better than the film i think. the last episode was definatly the most emotional. apparently Shane Meadows has said there will be another series..

              #1229550
              General Lighting
              Moderator

                @harr!et 400025 wrote:

                I really want to watch it but I haven’t had time, but I got a free this arvo so i might try and catch up with it on 4OD or something (:

                What happened in December 2006? o_O

                major incidents were a shooting at our largest local nightclub – people used to use Ipswich for urban music events as its easy to get to from London and didn’t (until these muppets fucked it up) have such strict licensing rules, anyway some beef started between locals and Londoners and a dude got shot dead

                Then just before Christmas a old lorry driver strangled six prostitutes and dumped their bodies in various parts of town. There was a massive Police investigation which swamped our local constabulary’s resources – so cops from just about everywhere were drafted in (as far away as Merseyside. as well as a fair few from the Met).

                I cycle to work every day right across town and it was surreal, more like riding through a scene in an American detective movie than somewhere in England due to the sheer amount of coppers. It would a major scene for London, let alone 80 miles away..

                This all happened in a fairly crime ridden part of town, but whilst all these cops were there crime plummeted (petty burglaries, bad behaviour in the street, vandalism) as even the dumbest criminal or thug tends not to do crime when there literally is a bobby on every street corner… of course when all the out of area cops went crime started creeping back up again but its a sad indictment on “communities” that some folk just can’t behave unless watched..

                #1229536
                Anonymous

                  oh i remember that. the prostitute thing. and they filmed that girl saying she wasn’t going to stop selling herself cos she needed the cash. and then she became on of the victims. scary stuff.

                  i have noticed a huuuuge increase in police and pcsos. but the pcsos are pointless. most people just tell them to jog on and don’t take them seriously.

                  #1229551
                  General Lighting
                  Moderator

                    round here they mostly just use the PCSOs as a extra set of eyes and ears for surveillance rather than trying to pretend they are real cops. They are cheaper and quicker to deploy than CCTV as for that the authorities have to wait for NTL to put in more fibre optic cable..

                    if you’ve seen the film “hot fuzz” its exactly like that here except every other copper is like PC Nick Angel (particularly the younger senior officers)

                    #1229559
                    Tek Offensive
                    Participant

                      really enjoyed it, hope they make another series

                      did get a bit darker towards the end but there were some proper comedy bits in all the episodes,

                      gadgets older woman and the 50cc moped gang in particular!

                      #1229552
                      General Lighting
                      Moderator

                        @Tek Offensive 400062 wrote:

                        some proper comedy bits in all the episodes,

                        gadgets older woman and the 50cc moped gang in particular!

                        thats real life in the villages where I work :laugh_at:

                        #1229537
                        Anonymous

                          That rape scene was quite disturbing

                          #1229565
                          Pike Tom Us
                          Participant

                            smell was hilarious throughout the series. its just the way she talks. what a beaut!

                            #1229560
                            process
                            Participant

                              stop. Hammertime!

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                              fuck me that was pretty dark wasnt it?!

                              and yeah smells voice was cracking me up to. 🙂

                              #1229553
                              General Lighting
                              Moderator

                                MC Hammer turned (back?) to Jesus and is now a preacher!

                                Operation Trident also started in 1986 after the Notting Hill Carnival, the Met don’t like to admit to that for fear of being deemed racist by the left wing and not powerful enough by the right wing..

                                #1229538
                                Anonymous

                                  Operation Trident as in.. the nuclear defense system thing?
                                  it would be a dream job to work on that 8)

                                  #1229554
                                  General Lighting
                                  Moderator

                                    nah against the black community shooting each other (I’m amazed you live in London and have never heard of it!)

                                    #1229539
                                    Anonymous

                                      i don’t get out much..

                                      #1229555
                                      General Lighting
                                      Moderator

                                        are there not posters all over your college (sometimes the branding “stoptheguns” is used and “yoof type” posters) – or do you go to a really posh one where people don’t get enticed into that kind of gang culture?

                                        as for nukes they make them a few miles away from my old house in Reading… these days the industry quietly tries to discourage young women from working in the “hotter” bits of the factories – not because they’re sexist, but because of the higher risk of birth defects, premature birth and stillbirth when they decide to start families…

                                        actually thats another major bit of the 1980s, the world came that close to being blown to shit on at least 3 occasions (literally a few phone calls away from either the USA or USSR launching a nuke)

                                        #1229540
                                        Anonymous

                                          yeah, it’s the posh, christian school. 98% of the people who go to my school (it’s a secondary school + sixth form) don’t even know that sort of shit happens.

                                          hmm.. well i’m not gonna have children so i wouldn’t mind that.

                                          #1229556
                                          General Lighting
                                          Moderator

                                            fucking hell, I didn’t even think there were still schools like that any more! I did get sent to a Catholic school but I knew all about crime and stuff because of the IRA etc (learned about the Troubles when I was 8 years old..).

                                            That said I think a lot of families do know it happens but there’s a culture of “hiding bad news”, in London there’s so little community and even today its so easy for young people to be sheltered from “bad areas” if parents regulate their travel and socialising (plus young folk do have a sense of self-preservation and seek out safe havens..)

                                            karma aside, making nukes is fairly boring TBH. the science bit of it is 70 years old technology – other than the guidance and launch systems they are still comparatively low tech devices (even these systems will be using 20 year old technology as it takes even longer to innovate in secret).

                                            #1229541
                                            Anonymous

                                              well they hear about it but it’s a million miles away from what happens in their life. and i get what you mean about parents.

                                              yeah but i like stuff like that. i think it would be alright.

                                              #1229557
                                              General Lighting
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                                                you’d be better off working for EDF at Sizewell, at least electricity is more immediately useful than weapons of mass destruction..

                                                #1229542
                                                Anonymous

                                                  yeah but electricity isn’t the sort of bang i’m looking for 😀
                                                  i want big-ass bombs and guns.

                                                  #1229558
                                                  General Lighting
                                                  Moderator

                                                    they used to make explosives near where process lived but the entire town got accidentally blown up! there’s still chemicals factory there but they make paints and fertilizer and other slightly safer stuff… I think if any explosives are still made in UK they are up North by the coast where it doesn’t matter as much if it all goes kaboom..

                                                    #1229543
                                                    Anonymous

                                                      or right down south with the mod in portsmouth.
                                                      my nan lives right next to an mod torpedo testing range.

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