The BAD Vibe Thread!

[thelog]

@NN~Gazatryptamine 488956 wrote:

My brother is doing my skull in BIG time. I’m considering asking some ‘traveller’ associates to give him a kicking in…..

I may know a care bear that may be able to help you out. He’s an intensive care bear.

[Gylfi Gudbjornsson]

@thelog 488986 wrote:

I may know a care bear that may be able to help you out. He’s an intensive care bear.

The idea of knifing him is sounding more and more plausible…..I think I’m becoming a psychopath or something……

[thelog]

You sound propa pissed man. try and not let things wind you up man, Believe me its hard, but if you can rise above it and look down at the situation. You will feel better.

[Gylfi Gudbjornsson]

@thelog 489005 wrote:

You sound propa pissed man. try and not let things wind you up man, Believe me its hard, but if you can rise above it and look down at the situation. You will feel better.

Believe you me mate, I’ll feel better when he’s not breathing. I’m that angry with him. The main point he doesn’t seem to grasp is that the world wasn’t built around him.

If anything he wants knocking down a rung…or 5. I would do it, but I’d end up killing him. So I’ll have to set a plan in action as were he gets battered by big black men.

[know_hope]

but if its so obvious that the world doesn’t revolve around him (im guessing it doesn’t) maybe if u change you’re attitude and you’ll be able to help him, he sounds quite deluded and maybe thats just come out or is covering up some deep insecurity of some sort. you’re his brother and so you’re probably the person most likely to be able to help him and you’re not going to by ranting at/about him or getting him beaten up… if u find a way to help him come out of this mind state then you’ll be indirectly helping yourself…

[thelog]

@i_hope 489037 wrote:

but if its so obvious that the world doesn’t revolve around him (im guessing it doesn’t) maybe if u change you’re attitude and you’ll be able to help him, he sounds quite deluded and maybe thats just come out or is covering up some deep insecurity of some sort. you’re his brother and so you’re probably the person most likely to be able to help him and you’re not going to by ranting at/about him or getting him beaten up… if u find a way to help him come out of this mind state then you’ll be indirectly helping yourself…

true, he is olbviouslytelling these porkies for a reason. I’m no doctor but I think that its something to do with lacking self asteem or confidence or something. Maybe you could rise above it and actually help the poor fucker, but first he’s obviously gonna have to admit it and if he’s anything like the people I know that are like that. He will not come clean very easy.

I mean maybe you won’t be able to do it yourself, you will probably need help, read though some of this, its called the truth about deception I found it funny how true some of it is;

Compulsive Lying
Is your husband or wife, boyfriend or girlfriend a compulsive/pathological liar or a sociopath?

Or are you dealing with a child that lies?

To begin with, it may help to understand the difference between a pathological or compulsive liar and a sociopath (see, types of liars).

Ultimately, making this type of distinction may not be that useful. Because in either case, the outcome is typically the same: dealing with a compulsive or pathological liar is very difficult to do. And unfortunately, sociopaths cannot be changed (see, lovefraud).

A compulsive liar will resort to telling lies, regardless of the situation. Again, everyone lies from time to time (see, when lovers lie), but for a compulsive liar, telling lies is routine. It becomes a habit – a way of life.

Simply put, for a compulsive liar, lying becomes second nature.

Not only do compulsive liars bend the truth about issues large and small, they take comfort in it. Lying feels right to a compulsive liar. Telling the truth, on the other hand, is difficult and uncomfortable.

And like any behavior which provides comfort and an escape from discomfort (i.e., alcohol, drugs, sex), lying can become addictive and hard to stop. For the compulsive liar, lying feels safe and this fuels the desire to lie even more.

Making matters even more complicated, compulsive lying is often a symptom of a much larger personality disorder, which only makes the problem more difficult to resolve (see, narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder).

Unfortunately, compulsive lying is hard for the person involved to see, but it hurts those who are around it. Compulsive lying, if not addressed, can easily ruin a relationship (for example, see why does he need to lie).

Compulsive lying can be dealt with through counseling or therapy. But, like any addictive behavior (and/or personality disorder), getting someone to admit they have a problem with lying is the difficult part. Sadly enough, getting someone to recognize that he or she has a problem usually requires hitting rock bottom first.

How can you confront a compulsive liar?

Take a look at several viewers’ different attempts to deal with a compulsive liar (see, how I confronted a compulsive liar).

Additional Information:

compulsive lying quiz
how to confront a partner who lies
forum for dealing with a compulsive liar
lying and deception – articles, links and resources
A clinical perspective and victim assistance perspective on CL

there is loads more info and diffrent catagorys etc on the fulll sit which is here >> Compulsive Lying – Truth About Deception

Thing is gazza you have godd 100% good vibes on your side, and no matter what the outcome i’m still gonna be your old war buddy : )

[know_hope]

i’ve met a fair few people who frequently lie and its often some story or something thats going to make themselves look good, almost as if a story about whats really been happening wouldn’t be exciting or interesting enough to match their desired persona. but it just shows that there is a gap between how they look at themselves and what they’d like to be, and often its plain to see that what they’d like to be isn’t what you’d like to be for obvious reasons a b and c… it the state of mind of someone that has got lost and isn’t comfortable with their identity. some people continue this on and on, the lies become ridiculous, it becomes ‘them’… years, decades or their whole life can go by in this mindset and consequently their relationships will all be shallow, fickle and their happiness will always be diluted by a feeling of insincerity. its a quick fix way of being, its quite similar to being a drug addicted… they’re addicted to the instant feeling without giving much thought to consequences and how it will make them feel long term. for someone on the outside it can be obvious that they’re living in fiction, but for them it seems like they’re not too interested in analysing the probability of their lies sticking long term, or how it might come back to them later on making a negative feeling for them, they just see the opportunity to get a quick fix and they take it. its a sad life (in a way its not even ‘life’) and maybe you can look from this perspective and see that, and then maybe u can be a bro and help ur bro

btw just to get one thing clear… i lie and i want to look good, but i recognise that if i didn’t i’d have more peace. as i get older (not because i get older) i realise the less i respond to these things the more i have peace. i think most of the remaining lies i have in me are, lying to myself

i rode on an elephant round the m25 in the snow this morning

[MC G-Tek]

@i_hope 489042 wrote:

i rode on an elephant round the m25 in the snow this morning

That’s nothing, I just made a griffin & a unicorn fight to the death with light sabres, then I jumped in my time machine (delorean, obviously) & went & kicked Hitler in the ball! Been a busy morning. Anyway, gotta go now, time to walk my dragon innit!

[thelog]

have you ever found two people who tell big lies and back each other up by agreeing with each other and elaborating on each others bull shit. Like one guy saying “we outrun the coppers on our quadbikes” then the othe rone will be like yeah we even outran the police hellicopter” Thats just an example. I remember two kids doing it at school when bullshitting about one of them owning a paintball company and the other kid was backing him up by saying he had been there with him.

More recently this bloke who lived opposite me and sold heroin. He used to make out that he was a millionaire but spunked all the money on coke. He said he had an aston martin and kilos of coke. He even went as far as saing that he did the things that tony montana does in scarface with the ckoe. But now he had spent all the money and was living piss poor with this dumbarse bullshitting woman. But she used to try and back up his storys like saying “he’s a gangster” and “oooh I have seen his gun” (that was aledgedly burried in a secret location allomg with £100,000 emergency money) it was such lies. as if you would have all that money burried away and all these gangster connections while your living in a skanky flat with fuck all furniture selling skag. Oh and asking me to borrow money from time to time. sadly this particular died in feb so looks like this money and stuff will stay burried forever. LOL I was gonna say to him before he died, is there anything you would like to admit before you die. But I thought that it would be highly uncalled for. But to the point His missis used to back up his bullshit, but he never used to back up her shit. She used to allways say that she only had X ammount of time to live and she had some life or death opperation.

Frankly when I was at infant/junior school I did tell a fib or two like saying I had seen films or played computer games that I hadn’t but I quickly learned that the truth comes out and bite you on the arse. Like when you get asked about the thing you lied about infornt of your brother. I spoze it’s a learning curve for kids though. It was for me .

[DaftFader]

@thelog 489059 wrote:

have you ever found two people who tell big lies and back each other up by agreeing with each other and elaborating on each others bull shit. Like one guy saying “we outrun the coppers on our quadbikes” then the othe rone will be like yeah we even outran the police hellicopter” Thats just an example. I remember two kids doing it at school when bullshitting about one of them owning a paintball company and the other kid was backing him up by saying he had been there with him.

More recently this bloke who lived opposite me and sold heroin. He used to make out that he was a millionaire but spunked all the money on coke. He said he had an aston martin and kilos of coke. He even went as far as saing that he did the things that tony montana does in scarface with the ckoe. But now he had spent all the money and was living piss poor with this dumbarse bullshitting woman. But she used to try and back up his storys like saying “he’s a gangster” and “oooh I have seen his gun” (that was aledgedly burried in a secret location allomg with £100,000 emergency money) it was such lies. as if you would have all that money burried away and all these gangster connections while your living in a skanky flat with fuck all furniture selling skag. Oh and asking me to borrow money from time to time. sadly this particular died in feb so looks like this money and stuff will stay burried forever. LOL I was gonna say to him before he died, is there anything you would like to admit before you die. But I thought that it would be highly uncalled for. But to the point His missis used to back up his bullshit, but he never used to back up her shit. She used to allways say that she only had X ammount of time to live and she had some life or death opperation.

Frankly when I was at infant/junior school I did tell a fib or two like saying I had seen films or played computer games that I hadn’t but I quickly learned that the truth comes out and bite you on the arse. Like when you get asked about the thing you lied about infornt of your brother. I spoze it’s a learning curve for kids though. It was for me .

Yeah we had these two guys at school who did that. They made up their own language so no one else could understand what they were saying when they were talking to each other as well. Was soo funny when we were stoned … them two babbling on at each other in gibberish. :laugh_at:

[know_hope]

@thelog 489059 wrote:

Frankly when I was at infant/junior school I did tell a fib or two

everyone lies/ has lied… but to switch from being a short sighted child into a person that can make real connections with others, understanding motives and consequences will umm help…. my (learned…[well what is truly yours anyway?] [is this learning or madness?] [im a goat]) perception is that lying is a form of ego driven communication. the ego always wants you to appear better, and in the case of lying, better than you actually are. so indirectly, u might say, its an attempt to make the person you’re lying to appear worse than they actually are, and to further a perceived mental gap… its an attempt to gain in perceived respectability/hierarchy/admiration/knowledge etc, but ultimately, its a gap of inequality… the flip side of this is that for making connections with others built on love/compassion/humility etc, the gap of inequality, if there is one, should be closed, not opened; narrowed, not widened. all acts of ego widen this gap… all acts of love close it. true connection is achieved through the realisation that we’re all essentially the same, just with a different set of conditions acted upon us… and all attempts to show otherwise will only weaken connections based in love.

but imo, to live freely without pleasure received from reward pathway that is triggered by the exaltation of the ‘i’ feeling which is, experiencing life through ego/ life with acts of selfishness, is very hard, if not impossible. everyone has their way of triggering it, some more subtle than others… one of my many ways is the perceived unveiling of knowledge (if u hadn’t guessed), im getting a semi right now actually… whether or not i achieve this ‘unveiling’ is ‘the challenge,’ – the excitement… and the consequence would be i suppose, others perceiving me as a right tit, which im sure, at least in the case of daft, is somewhat true :p … but for me, i feel like this type of behaviour is hardwired into us, probably from near the start of our cognitive learning. maybe as we evolve, the perceived reward will lessen as its learned that pure connection with others is worth significantly more…… but for now at least we’re surely doomed to a life of separation; forever fixated by other’s perception of us, we attempt to tread on the ones we supposedly love for petty gain… always trying to do one better, forever cycling between happiness and sadness as we allow our environment to dictate terms to us and we clutch to our ridiculous, selfish and highly improbable wants and hopes, forever without the knowledge that we’re running around with our pants down like some disgraced animal that’s lost its mind, stopping only when the great hammer falls and we learn how very, very naughty we really are… but at moments… and for some with the aid of various hallucinogens, stimulants and depressants……………………………. enjoying the ride… nonetheless

right… enuff writing to hoe’s and foo’s, me is waitin for da queen to arrive for lunch before runnin around in da street with some big torch ting innit

[Pat McDonald]

@i_hope 489071 wrote:

but imo, to live freely without the reward pathway that is triggered by the exaltation of the ‘i’ feeling which is, experiencing life through ego/ life with acts of selfishness, and the pleasure received from it is very hard, if not impossible. everyone has their way of triggering it, some more subtle than others… one of my many ways is the perceived unveiling of knowledge (if u hadn’t guessed), im getting a semi right now actually… whether or not i achieve this ‘unveiling’ is ‘the challenge,’ – the excitement… and the consequence would be i suppose, others perceiving me as a right tit, which im sure, at least in the case of daft, is somewhat true :p … but for me, i feel like this type of behaviour is hardwired into us, probably from near the start of our cognitive learning. maybe as we evolve, the perceived reward will lessen as its learned that pure connection with others is worth significantly more…… but for now at least we’re surely doomed to a life of separation; forever fixated by other’s perception of us, we attempt to tread on the ones we supposedly love for petty gain… always trying to do one better, forever cycling between happiness and sadness as we allow our environment to dictate terms to us and we clutch to our ridiculous, selfish and highly improbable wants and hopes, forever without the knowledge that we’re running around with our pants down like some disgraced animal that’s lost its mind, stopping only when the great hammer falls and we learn how very, very naughty we really are… but at moments… and for some with the aid of various hallucinogens, stimulants and depressants……………………………. enjoying the ride… nonetheless

I have to admit, when my fuse has burned it’s length and the rage is roaring… I love the smell of mayhem in the morning! Because it smells like… MAYHEM!

Targetting it where it will do some good, that’s not so easy to manage…

[know_hope]

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