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October 19, 2006 at 8:43 am #1039603
after reading loads of reviews on both decks it seems that its all down to preference. unfortunatly i dont know any one with either techs or vestax’s so have no idea what their like.
tbh technics seem a little dated stat wise, but then there must be a reason for the reputation.
any way, was just wonderin what your thoughts were before i shell out for a pair on ebay.
October 19, 2006 at 8:55 am #1092536Tek Offensive wrote:after reading loads of reviews on both decks it seems that its all down to preference. unfortunatly i dont know any one with either techs or vestax’s so have no idea what their like.tbh technics seem a little dated stat wise, but then there must be a reason for the reputation.
robustness (particularly when used for parties and being moved about a lot) and a tried and tested design… this is vital when peoples livelihoods depend on the technology (such as when these decks are used in commercial venues and legal radio stations)
OTOH Vestax are popular with home DJs and some free party crews (they seemed to be popular with the Oxon lot…)
October 19, 2006 at 8:57 am #1092553Dont know about Vestax,But yer Technics will take a serious ammount of abuse without failingraaaraaa
October 19, 2006 at 9:16 am #1092545yer form what i have learnt techs will take a lot of abuse
didnt someone do a handstand on them and they carried on spinning:crazy:
October 19, 2006 at 10:31 am #1092539I know someone who’s ex threw his technics 1210’s out of a 13 storey flat window into the carpark the only thing that was damaged was the tone arm… Now that is robust..
Personally i prefer technics and most clubs u play in will have them as they are still classed as the Industry standard decks..
October 19, 2006 at 4:38 pm #1092547technics everytime :weee:
October 19, 2006 at 4:54 pm #1092537Tek Offensive wrote:tbh technics seem a little dated stat wise, but then there must be a reason for the reputation.Basically it comes down to what GL said.
Vestax, Stanton and Numark have more features (gimmicks if you will) but Technics are built like tanks. I know a lot of people (inc myself) with technics that have been around for years with no problems. They have been taken out to many parties in the sun, rain, heavy dust. They have been dropped, drinks have been spilt on them etc etc and they are still fine.
The motor is vastly superior for mixing too. Yes the other decks have a higher torque and start up speed but this is no benefit in my eyes. Who cares how fast your record starts as long as its quick (which the technics are) and the stronger torque is a downfall for the other decks in my opinion. They require more pressure to slow the record down and sometimes have a slingshot effect happening when you release the pressure. Not to mention the platter on Vestax are crap and they have no stroboscope (handy for telling if your deck is playing at the speed it should be)
Another major minus point to most other decks is that they do not have the sound isolation properties that technics have. All other decks are more liable to produce feedback with large soundsystems as they cannot isolate themselves as well as the technics can.
One last thing… more features and gimmicks means more problems that are likely to arrise.
My advice: The new breed of dj’s will probably give you stick for buying technics but you’ll be the one laughing when 10 years down the line your technics are in fine working order and the others have already had their decks fixed 5 times.
PS: Richie T (who occasionaly comes on here) is an electrician and he sees plenty of vestax decks coming to him to be fixed but very little technics.October 19, 2006 at 5:03 pm #1092548we service our own technics [so far once in over 10 years :laugh_at:]
we check them anually but they are almost always fine [bar that once when we needed to clean the accumulated dust out of them!!!]
:weee::weee::weee::weee: I love my technics and wouldnt part with them willingly:weee::weee::weee:
October 21, 2006 at 10:13 am #1092552Raj wrote:we service our own technics [so far once in over 10 years :laugh_at:]we check them anually but they are almost always fine [bar that once when we needed to clean the accumulated dust out of them!!!]
:weee::weee::weee::weee: I love my technics and wouldnt part with them willingly:weee::weee::weee:
And wot sort of DUST needed to be cleaned out of them?:groucho: :groucho: must of been quite hard to get that rolled up twenty into all those nooks and crannies:weee:
October 21, 2006 at 11:51 am #1092541Acidfairy wrote:I know someone who’s ex threw his technics 1210’s out of a 13 storey flat window into the carpark the only thing that was damaged was the tone arm… Now that is robust..
quote]technics it is! :weee:
October 21, 2006 at 12:17 pm #1092549HARTY wrote:And wot sort of DUST needed to be cleaned out of them?:groucho: :groucho: must of been quite hard to get that rolled up twenty into all those nooks and crannies:weee:not that kind – the kind that comes from clubs and smokemachines [icky sticky yucky dust :yakk::yakk::yakk:]
October 21, 2006 at 12:22 pm #1092554I Have a couple of mates who would probably snort that up for you anyway!!:laugh_at::laugh_at:
October 21, 2006 at 12:40 pm #1092550eeeuch :yakk:
i will remember that for next time 😉
October 21, 2006 at 1:24 pm #1092540Technics STANDARD !!
Can’t be beaten !!
October 21, 2006 at 6:11 pm #1092542pity their so expensive, im gonna be skint :frown: . thats mainly why i was askin if theres a huge difference cos you can pick up vestax for alot less.
October 21, 2006 at 6:15 pm #1092551pick them up second hand off ebay? they are tough enough to still be working properly and cheaper.
December 18, 2007 at 11:16 pm #1092543bump! (always wanted to say that!)
after selling my loyal geminis a while back and spending all the money that was meant to go on new ones i ended up getting some numark tt1’s ( mentioned in another thread ) which im not the biggest fan of.
im gonna sell them and get new ones,
at the moment tho ive got one loves vestax’s set up in my room the last few nights and really love them, not having a strobe is annoying but ive found them so easy to get used to, and after using them whilst playing live on saturday, i really loved the confidence you get knowing that once the records are in time, thats were theyll stay.
this is the first time ive properly got to use vestax, but have only used technics a few times and only briefly, so cant say what i think of them.
i know their more robust, but im very careful with stuff.
any more opinions welcome…
December 18, 2007 at 11:58 pm #1092556Technics only have 8 pitch range which i didn’t used to think was a problem but now i relise it aint enough! Vestax have 10 which is better but sometimes wish i could push them a bit further. I know what you mean about the numarks it does get boring constantly fixing the pitch but tut the 20 pitch range is useful!
Why cant technics or vestax make a modle which is as reliable as therir others but with a larger range>?December 18, 2007 at 11:59 pm #1092555mate u learned on Geminis 🙂 you’re gonna be good on any decks now!
Ive got Technics MK5, and you know with technics its all blah blah blah, cos they ARE the industry standard decks. Personally I love them.
Technics MK 5 G are one up from the Mark 5s and offer a button to set the pitch at 16
I havent got a lot of experience with Vestax, I might have had a mix on them a few years ago, pearly plastic ones with a “superpitch” option… i didnt like them…but i had only started mixing then, so no great insights there….
Its worth bearing in mind though, even if you ARE careful with your gear, if something isn’t robust to start with, it will soon show signs of wear n problems. To my mind. If someone puts sommat in a crappy case with crappy quality plastic…. how much care will they take with the internal components?????? Technics as you know is guaranteed quality…..The cases are metal and rubber… They are solid through and through, bits are easy to get and the truth is, unless you have a very nasty accident with them….. you should never ever ever need to replace them…
It might be worth – if you can’t borrow some techs to try again – to see if you can either find a local disco equipment shop or even a pub or club that will let you try theirs, or to hire a pair for the weekend should only be about £50..
PS. YOu can get new technics around £300 each and the second hand ones are finally falling in value it seemsm as CDJs get more popularm – Ive seen them go for £300-350 a pair…..
December 19, 2007 at 1:42 pm #1092558Don’t go for either, i’d suggest buying Ministry of sound belt driven drives from Argos!!! (Disclaimer: Don’t do it, I’m joking!):you_crazy
December 20, 2007 at 4:44 am #1092559i have vestax pdx 1200’s … there leet .. only thing is the durability .. i have used techniks as well … i prefer vestax for a few reasons … stonger motor so faster pick up speed … +/- 12 and +/- 50 sliders ..so you can mix in those older slower tracks of your fav style or make so mad mixes up like madness and andy c ect… and they go backwards witch can be fun …. vestax imo are much better decks they just don’t last aslong … some one i know payes £50 a year to vestax for them to be checked over ..this keeps the garantee for another year and you can keep doing this forever as far as i know … thus fixing the durability problem … if you wanna just buy decks that are solid and will probably work forever then get tecknics .. if you want to do a bit more than just to mix one tune into the next eg scratching and want that little bit extra go for vestax … but be sure to not let your garantee run out or you will end up with expensive junk if your not carefull … like me ;( ….. but i would still buy vestax again even tho i have one broken one .. it was kinda my friends falught tho .. not vestax’s as he spilt vodka n coke over one … but i have had other problems with them b4 that one deck compleatly broke ..
note to all. never buy a vestax mixer .. they are so flimsy its unreal .. mine broke 3 times in the first month of me haveing it … and no i wasn’t throwing out of 13 story buildings :laugh_at:
December 20, 2007 at 6:35 pm #1092557Ruff Beat Provider wrote:Technics only have 8 pitch range which i didn’t used to think was a problem but now i relise it aint enough! Vestax have 10 which is better but sometimes wish i could push them a bit further. I know what you mean about the numarks it does get boring constantly fixing the pitch but tut the 20 pitch range is useful!
Why cant technics or vestax make a modle which is as reliable as therir others but with a larger range>?I adjusted the pitch on mine, +- 12% now 😉
and as han said the mark 5g’s have a pitch adjust button, but they cost maybe £800 each?
December 21, 2007 at 2:10 pm #1092546Ruff Beat Provider wrote:Technics only have 8 pitch range which i didn’t used to think was a problem but now i relise it aint enough! Vestax have 10 which is better but sometimes wish i could push them a bit further. I know what you mean about the numarks it does get boring constantly fixing the pitch but tut the 20 pitch range is useful!
Why cant technics or vestax make a modle which is as reliable as therir others but with a larger range>?I’m a Technics fan thru n thru . . . . . . :love:
BUT . . . I have only ever played on Vestax once, but one thing i soooooo wish Technics had was better pitch range. For one reason only – i have a fair few oldskool house n hardcore choons, which i never seem to take out, simply because they are just too slow, a few are ONLY JUST too slow, how annoying is that grrrr!! So they sit at home .. . tragic, really.
+10 – or more, would bring all of my old vinyl into play – they not ready to retire yet – bit like me!*sighs:cry: (:cry:,because can’t have Technics OR Vestax at mo)
December 21, 2007 at 2:47 pm #1092538The pitch issue is one that often rears it’s head. I suppose it’s a matter of opinion but +/- 8 is plenty for me. If I get near that +8 mark it bothers me anyway because a lot of tunes start to sound a bit silly when they are pitched up that high IMO.
With a larger pitch range comes less accuracy too.
December 21, 2007 at 2:50 pm #1092560BioTech wrote:With a larger pitch range comes less accuracy too.thats where mad skill comes to play … 😉
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