a good point well made – cheers

I was a normal suburban teenage kid back then but I’ve met a fair few people from the alternative community of that time (some of them were even my high school teachers lol)

The cops were of course well out of order but there was loads of other bad shit as well on the other side – although its claimed heroin (with some truth) that was infiltrated onto the community to fuck it up at the same time it was and still remains peoples lack of self control that so many people on alternative cultrues fuck up from drugs

was also told by several people that there was prostitution going on the site and the girls were selling their bodies to the local squaddies (same ones what backed up the cops at the battle I expect)

so much for the “womens liberation” element of it people looked up to back in the 1980s

this weren’t daily mail readers telling me this either but seasoned travellers/squatters

in hindsight the whole thing was a big fuck up on both sides and a stain on this countrys character

thankfully it seemed it shocked both sides to their senses and IMO that is what led to the 90s brief tolerance of rave culture

but it hurts me to see people making the same fuck ups yet again, when I see anger, misogyny and raves being broken up by riot cops as recently as last year its like there has been no fucking progress whatsover..

by the 90s though its hard to tell though whether it was the feds or the bigger dealers wanting to preserve their profits and markets, you’d think there would be enough people to learn from past mistakes. even the coppers would have known that allowing smack creates more crime and doesn’t kill quickly enough to be effective in actually destroying a community, it just passes a burden on to NHS

there is always the option to say no, even on a liberal community

well I heard it from three different people in different areas who had experience of those timescales and the sites.

Of course this would have had to be hidden from the “millie tant” feminists mentioned below.

probably the same ones what ended up as teaching assistants and youth workers in my school district :laugh_at:

my mum agreed with a lot of their views but was probably more right on than them in some ways which was probably why my own rebellious activities were tolerated to an extent…

seriously though the gender issues remain unresolved to this day and have actually split the alternative culture down the middle , I reckon deep down they’ve done more damage than the riot cops 😥 – after all in nature a living species or community needs both males and females to thrive…

actually thinking way back I remember that drought

hmm this definitely seems more like those what depend on the revenue stream at al levels preserving their markets. smuggling routes for all drugs are fairly similar and although some street level dealers didn’t want to deal brown and many never did, money and the desire to get it corrupts absolutely.

I’d maybe believe the conspiracy theories in the 1980s but thatcho if left to carry on would have also abolished the NHS thus removing the problem of the treatment burden, the addicts would have been left to die….

but by the 1990s with the NHS still extant, the feds deliberately allowing smack to be sold would be like burning down a brand new barn full of grain to kill a small handful of mice.

Thats just addiction and lack of self control.

perhaps (although this is again a conspiracy theory) the feds were doing a psycholgical test on people and the community, to see how dependent they were on drugs

on a more real note I saw it happen to my mates around then and loads of them paid the price – was reading TVP website a couple years ago and loads of names I knew (including old friends from high school) were on there busted for addictive class A’s

fair play to you for resisting – incidentally I think these times are back as the cops here seem to have reduced a lot of the party drugs trade and events being pushed back into legal venues mean people are doing less party drugs… but smack is always available …

I agree with you but they did it with the black panthers didnt they.
It’s a tried and tested way for governments to destroy an anti establisment movement.

Someone suggested to me that the amount of money generated by 1000’s of junkies in insurance claims would make it worthwhile for the country but i think that may be going a bit far.

Its going to rain 🙁 least all the booze and crap will get washed off the stones.

Im going to find a massive piece of plastic me thinks… failing that im buying a child’s tent to plonk my arse in.

keep checking the met office website for your target location

don’t bother with the BBC or foreign weather forecasters, both are often wrong

met office is updated every hour or so straight from the RAF weather stations