you heard about my upcoming op then?:wink:

mmmmm,

I’m now scared :hopeless:

bite me big boy

:laugh_at::laugh_at:

although i’m new to this i think the difference between PV and SJ is one of mentality.
PV seems to have a core of good people who know a bit about each other and are polite and respectful and don’t engage as freely in offensive exchanges or respond to childish posts in a childish way. I think the moderators play a very importaint role too keeping it civil and giving advise about appropriate threads of conversation.
Suffice to say like mind people tend to seek company together and it is reasonable to assume that if the ‘wrong’ kind of poster was eather fed (as a troll) or found a small network of reinforcement within the PV forum and/or was tollerated by the moderators and members they would quite happily post shit here all day long.

although I’ve only been in this region for 3 years some mates of mine we probably both know told me that they have seen all them lads what slag off hardstyle and Norfolk parties (i.e their own local scene) on SJ jumping around in the stack :laugh_at:

I wouldn’t say this place is that fluffy as it does openly discuss both the good and bad aspects of raving – and TBH it might be better to at least try and make raves look a bit “fluffy” than people bigging up negativity and violence like what happens on other forums/networks (not even just SJ) – without the “fluffy” bit there’s no reason for the rest of society to let either unlicensed or legal raves happen!

If the scene genuinely was a bit more positive we’d still be having decent raves in our region without people having to sacrifice their rigs and get into crime to fund them..

people get caught out with this here as well, and then wonder why they can’t get any MP3s…

there was no real rivalry between PV and SJ or Dirtycircus until 2005 or so when a handful of trolls started targeting both sites, and got annoyed because they weren’t tolerated here so they talked up the rivalry. There are good people on SJ, I know many in real life; but they have increasingly been drowned out by a few muppets. Just like what happened on the free party scene in the south of England in real life.

That said, some ravers were so paranoid about the very concept of moderators that many refused to use this site as long ago as 2002/03 – simply because there were moderators – the irony was that although our names came up in red we actually had no edit/admin functions until about 2004 and it was very rare for any mods to intervene! We even had unregisted guest posting until 2005 (as did SJ), until the trolls destroyed that freedom as well.

We are so fucking lucky as it is that in Britain we are even allowed to host forums openly talking about drugs, sex, unlawful/illegal activities etc without everyone being stalked to fuck by feds or the site being closed down…

the “free speech” laws in the USA are similar to the UK (although potentially more stringent for US citizens).

The laws regarding websites are not 100% clear-cut, and it can be argued by the legal eagles that irrespective wherever the site is hosted, the majority of the community here are from Britain and the EU, and should therefore be answerable to UK law, particularly if their discussions mostly relate to real life activities and incidents in the UK.

cops (even in harsher countries) don’t always close websites as can they provide a valuable intelligence source – but use the info gleaned from them to monitor and bust people.

there was once a point where all rave forums could get away with posting up names of rigs and crew, pics of parties, partylines and even rough locations without getting any grief off the cops – but by 2004/5 they were using all of this in evidence against people…