Wow.
I didn’t know that.
That’s really interesting.

hahahahahaha’ Serious fucked up shit, only in America’ if the truth was known he was bombed on Meth’

Madness’

Belgium is actually on the verge of splitting apart due to nationalism.

And there are plenty of guns in other European nations, and angry lads prepared to use them.

Splitting apart?
That’s crazy?
I hope it doesn’t.

hasn’t it got like… no government or something?

every country has its stupid people, but to vote one of them into office? you dont see that to often

I think Bush’s apparent lack of intelligence is an act, there’s no way he’s that stupid…

Well we did in Denmark :weee:

So did you in Britain :laugh_at:

Doesn’t mean that all Danes and Brits are stupid 😉

which makes the situation in Europe far worse as our elections usually are free and fair, more so than the USA, Russia or Asia, yet the people have been by their own will consistently electing right wing candidates

and I don’t think any world leader is stupid. Bush can afford to play dumb because his country still has a lot of resources and prosperity and the military forces could blow the world to atoms at a whim if they so desired

Most of the world leaders are extremely intelligent and the current lot are the ones who worked and studied hard whilst the original bunch of hippies “lost themselves” in hedonism during the 60s-1980s, hence the divisions in todays society.

I think there’s a difference between ignorance and stupidity. He’s not as brainy as Blair or Brown but not that daft either.

A lot of “Bushisms” are just the use of “common” dialect (and even Blair has been known to use “Estuary English” on occasions when addressing a working class audience), just mixing up words whilst under pressure, or complete ignorance of what actually goes on in foreign nations (which a lot of right-wing Americans suffer from).

Also I think in Britain we are used to very eloquent politicians because of the quality of Churchills speeches (fuelled by amfetamines!) or the well crafted spin of Thatcher and Blair, plus the constant debate and discussion before any political decision is actually made (which depends a lot on being able to express yourself well) – as someone who works for Whitehall you must have noticed this!

I don’t think there is that much debate in American politics, they are extremely polarised and tribal and at the end of the day force and the gun are the ultimate deciders of what may happen – they have had two “liberal” presidents assasinated, as well as other politicians meeting dubious ends.

Their own feds say that one IED goes off every day in the USA due to “non terrorist” offences.

The way I interpret their societies desire to own and carry so many guns is that they (or at least some states) essentially live in a permanent state of civil war (the only reason I can think of to constantly feel the need to carry a gun for self defence)

John Major (remember him?) did come out with some surreal phrases such saying in an interview “a soundbite never buttered a parsnip” (thus creating a perfect soundbite!)

and “when your back is against the wall, the best thing to do is to turn round and keep fighting” :laugh_at: