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May 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm #1053017
A lesson all can learn from : for months I was cursing even the new firmware on the Citronic MPX-10 as the mixer section would stay in analogue each time I powered it back on even if I set it to MIDI control (I wanted to experiment with the video functions of VDJ which work better when the mixer is MIDI control). (you can either have the mixer as analogue and decks on MIDI or all on MIDI control) Although you can play out from USB direct (if your PC is crashed) you don’t get all the nice functions like waves on screen, full tracklists, history etc.
yesterday whilst waiting for tea to cook I had another look at the 3.0 manual.
Turns out there was another separate menu option to save the settings which I had overlooked.. :crazy_diz:laugh_at:
however here the M can mean “meters” as well as “manual” as the manual has inconsistencies!
I thought the audio quality was way better on analogue than with VDJ doing the DSP, in spite of having a fairly powerful desktop (3.30 GHZ I3 dual core, 8 gigs of RAM, Win 7 64 bit).
but what was happening is the script is translating the meters to read digital levels (dbFS) so redlining it is of course clipping, but the manual assuming folk are using analogue mode says its OK to push it to +4. That said the Behringer mixer also does this on its internal USB soundcard, and presumably a lot of other kit does too..
The “ghost” skin for VDJ is worth the download as its gain meters actually work like pro digital audio, if you are grossly overloading a channel the meter changes colour and goes upside down, only heard about it on very expensive kit from Neve and Studer…
there are also minor bugs in the VDJ script (will put them on their forum at some point).
BTW Citronic have unfortunately stopped marketing the MPX-10, though similar devices are available in Europe and Asia under a variety of names. Its actually designed by Synq in Belgium and constructed in China (sold in Asia as the Voxoa S60). I think they’ve given up on the controller market at its saturated, plus Britain seems unique in hanging on to vinyl gramophone records and CD’s for EDM (although most folk with decks are now going to timecoded vinyl).
May 16, 2012 at 2:50 am #1253143@General Lighting 479144 wrote:
A lesson all can learn
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RTFM. Read The Fucking Manual. Most basic lesson when dealing with technology BUT… Don’t expect the manual to be 100% accurate.
@General Lighting 479144 wrote:
BTW Citronic
They still around? Remember having one of their 80s video switchers – bulky piece of rackmount kit but built to last.
@General Lighting 479144 wrote:
Britain seems unique in hanging on to vinyl gramophone records and CD’s for EDM (although most folk with decks are now going to timecoded vinyl).
Land of the fee, home of the rave. 😀
May 16, 2012 at 6:04 am #1253142Here is the Citronic product line;
May 31, 2012 at 7:13 pm #1253141Citronic have stopped marketing it in the EU but its sold under the other brands including American Audio (here it is at Juno UK). You can’t (yet) swap the firmware between the various models nor is it advisable unless you understand Chinese (I think the S60 will display in Chinese).
in many Asian countries DJ’s mix a bizzare combination of trance, hardstyle, jumpstyle and random cantopop on 3-4 decks, plus the theme tunes off Japanese cartoons. A lot of the remixes are locally made and distributed by the “you want DVD?” dude :laugh_at: Plus many Chinese still live in the family home until their late 20s/30 or older – in some areas you are still expected to live with your parents even when married with kids, the parents get the ground floor so they don’t have to climb steps and the younger people have to build the house above them. Mind you its not too far off that in rural areas here :laugh_at:
in Chinese familes a young person might be berated for collecting obvious music/studio kit as it is “distracting them from studies / work ” (unless its playing the piano or violin) – but both genders are otherwise encouraged to learn about electronics and computers – the controller just looks like another bit of computer kit. Hence why these things are popular but many DJ’s want them to display Chinese characters on the display.
American Audio Versadeck DJ Controller at Juno Records
this Chinese girl in her 20s compiled a chart of Cantopop with English explanations so if you don’t understand Cantonese (and I don’t!) you can hear it. TBH I struggled with the maths she used for the chart!
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