Rant Thread!

[MisterDuck]

i changed my maggie avatar in case any new users thought i was being serious, it couldnt be more the opposite! party saturday after she pops it innit.

[MisterDuck]

i changed my maggie avatar in case any new users thought i was being serious, it couldnt be more the opposite! party saturday after she pops it innit.

[p0ly]

we got a maggie candle we gonnna use when she dies, watch her melt slowly

[p0ly]

we got a maggie candle we gonnna use when she dies, watch her melt slowly

[General Lighting]

@boothy 341959 wrote:

hmmm bit harsh mate, i think it’s the management to blame rather than the workers, these days unions tend not to strike so easily and they recognise the inconvenience it causes us, thats why they do it as a last resort when talks break down

also there are wider reasons for the strike – the EU got hijacked by free market fundamentalists in the 1990s. many of them looked with rose-tinted specs at Britain’s early rush to privatisation of public services and utilities – and have overlooked the fact that our nations essential services are now creaking along on outdated and unreliable infrastructure, particularly outside metropolitan areas, and that thousands of jobs have permanently been outsourced to foreign lands when they once provided a valuable stepping stone for young people.

Many self-employed tradespeople and office workers started off as apprentices or junior staff for the Electricity or Gas Board or Post Office/British Telecom.

The Royal Mail staff are striking against plans to privatise the service which would be an utter disaster, particularly for those in rural areas / other countries outside England. Even so I have only noticed a delay of a day or so to most post when the strikes are on.

Parcelforce has always been problematic (it is badly managed) but a lot of internet suppliers claim “next day delivery” when they are sending their packages on 1-3 day turnaround delivery, which is often but not always next day…

[General Lighting]

@boothy 341959 wrote:

hmmm bit harsh mate, i think it’s the management to blame rather than the workers, these days unions tend not to strike so easily and they recognise the inconvenience it causes us, thats why they do it as a last resort when talks break down

also there are wider reasons for the strike – the EU got hijacked by free market fundamentalists in the 1990s. many of them looked with rose-tinted specs at Britain’s early rush to privatisation of public services and utilities – and have overlooked the fact that our nations essential services are now creaking along on outdated and unreliable infrastructure, particularly outside metropolitan areas, and that thousands of jobs have permanently been outsourced to foreign lands when they once provided a valuable stepping stone for young people.

Many self-employed tradespeople and office workers started off as apprentices or junior staff for the Electricity or Gas Board or Post Office/British Telecom.

The Royal Mail staff are striking against plans to privatise the service which would be an utter disaster, particularly for those in rural areas / other countries outside England. Even so I have only noticed a delay of a day or so to most post when the strikes are on.

Parcelforce has always been problematic (it is badly managed) but a lot of internet suppliers claim “next day delivery” when they are sending their packages on 1-3 day turnaround delivery, which is often but not always next day…

[MisterDuck]

@General Lighting 342026 wrote:

also there are wider reasons for the strike – the EU got hijacked by free market fundamentalists in the 1990s. many of them looked with rose-tinted specs at Britain’s early rush to privatisation of public services and utilities – and have overlooked the fact that our nations essential services are now creaking along on outdated and unreliable infrastructure, particularly outside metropolitan areas, and that thousands of jobs have permanently been outsourced to foreign lands when they once provided a valuable stepping stone for young people.

Many self-employed tradespeople and office workers started off as apprentices or junior staff for the Electricity or Gas Board or Post Office/British Telecom.

The Royal Mail staff are striking against plans to privatise the service which would be an utter disaster, particularly for those in rural areas / other countries outside England. Even so I have only noticed a delay of a day or so to most post when the strikes are on.

Parcelforce has always been problematic (it is badly managed) but a lot of internet suppliers claim “next day delivery” when they are sending their packages on 1-3 day turnaround delivery, which is often but not always next day…

i fucking resent new labour for shit like this. sold their socialist soul to thatcherism imo.

they support the neo-liberal ideals of thatcher, with free markets and little regulation. their part-privatisation of the NHS and our education system is nothing less than disgusting from the party who were the forerunners of our proudest acheivement imo – the welfare state.

they have finalised rail privatisation, admittedly started by tories but labour promised to roll it back in the election campaign in 97, instead they finished off the process. we cannot hope for a greener britain until the rail network is brought back into state ownership with money being pumped into it to ensure a smoother, cheaper service and therefore a realistic alternative for people.

then theres the civil liberties/terrorism/war saga. new labour as as bad as tory scumbags.

i hate beng such a pessimistic cunt at 18, but really. whatever happened to socialism eh.

[MisterDuck]

@General Lighting 342026 wrote:

also there are wider reasons for the strike – the EU got hijacked by free market fundamentalists in the 1990s. many of them looked with rose-tinted specs at Britain’s early rush to privatisation of public services and utilities – and have overlooked the fact that our nations essential services are now creaking along on outdated and unreliable infrastructure, particularly outside metropolitan areas, and that thousands of jobs have permanently been outsourced to foreign lands when they once provided a valuable stepping stone for young people.

Many self-employed tradespeople and office workers started off as apprentices or junior staff for the Electricity or Gas Board or Post Office/British Telecom.

The Royal Mail staff are striking against plans to privatise the service which would be an utter disaster, particularly for those in rural areas / other countries outside England. Even so I have only noticed a delay of a day or so to most post when the strikes are on.

Parcelforce has always been problematic (it is badly managed) but a lot of internet suppliers claim “next day delivery” when they are sending their packages on 1-3 day turnaround delivery, which is often but not always next day…

i fucking resent new labour for shit like this. sold their socialist soul to thatcherism imo.

they support the neo-liberal ideals of thatcher, with free markets and little regulation. their part-privatisation of the NHS and our education system is nothing less than disgusting from the party who were the forerunners of our proudest acheivement imo – the welfare state.

they have finalised rail privatisation, admittedly started by tories but labour promised to roll it back in the election campaign in 97, instead they finished off the process. we cannot hope for a greener britain until the rail network is brought back into state ownership with money being pumped into it to ensure a smoother, cheaper service and therefore a realistic alternative for people.

then theres the civil liberties/terrorism/war saga. new labour as as bad as tory scumbags.

i hate beng such a pessimistic cunt at 18, but really. whatever happened to socialism eh.

[GiantMidget]

@boothy 341959 wrote:

hmmm bit harsh mate, i think it’s the management to blame rather than the workers, these days unions tend not to strike so easily and they recognise the inconvenience it causes us, thats why they do it as a last resort when talks break down

imo we need unions, otherwise we might as well throw it all to the money-grabbers and watch workers rights fly out the window

I’m not bothered by their plight tbh. I worked for Royal Mail a few years back and know how they operate. Them striking fucks up my routine and fucks up the country so imo they can do one. If you saw what went on there you wouldn’t be defending them.

Most of the management are corrupt as are the unions. Seen it first hand mate, They’re all as bad as each other, they don’t care about us, well they didn’t when i worked there. Worked in four different depots and they were all the same. I say again. Tossers.

😉

Btw got my toothbrush. YAY!

[GiantMidget]

@boothy 341959 wrote:

hmmm bit harsh mate, i think it’s the management to blame rather than the workers, these days unions tend not to strike so easily and they recognise the inconvenience it causes us, thats why they do it as a last resort when talks break down

imo we need unions, otherwise we might as well throw it all to the money-grabbers and watch workers rights fly out the window

I’m not bothered by their plight tbh. I worked for Royal Mail a few years back and know how they operate. Them striking fucks up my routine and fucks up the country so imo they can do one. If you saw what went on there you wouldn’t be defending them.

Most of the management are corrupt as are the unions. Seen it first hand mate, They’re all as bad as each other, they don’t care about us, well they didn’t when i worked there. Worked in four different depots and they were all the same. I say again. Tossers.

😉

Btw got my toothbrush. YAY!

[joshd96320]

theyll be pissed off and caring when their pshit dont come thru the mail 😀

[joshd96320]

theyll be pissed off and caring when their pshit dont come thru the mail 😀

[MisterDuck]

@DJCliffy 342062 wrote:

I’m not bothered by their plight tbh. I worked for Royal Mail a few years back and know how they operate. Them striking fucks up my routine and fucks up the country so imo they can do one. If you saw what went on there you wouldn’t be defending them.

Most of the management are corrupt as are the unions. Seen it first hand mate, They’re all as bad as each other, they don’t care about us, well they didn’t when i worked there. Worked in four different depots and they were all the same. I say again. Tossers.

😉

Btw got my toothbrush. YAY!

fair enough, i dont have any experience, i was more talking about unions in general as a safeguard. i don’t doubt it though, union leaders in particularly can get corrupted by the same greed they are trying to protect the workforce from.

i’m all about unite the union tbh, specifically community and youth workers union. unite seem fairly sound to me.

the postal one, CWU, is still affiliated to the labour party. hmm. says a lot.

i’ve been waiting for my course results. i need them to know im going to uni next year, i need to get em sent off asap. although im not sure its royal mails fault for the delay, exam boards are notoriously shit at timekeeping.

[MisterDuck]

@DJCliffy 342062 wrote:

I’m not bothered by their plight tbh. I worked for Royal Mail a few years back and know how they operate. Them striking fucks up my routine and fucks up the country so imo they can do one. If you saw what went on there you wouldn’t be defending them.

Most of the management are corrupt as are the unions. Seen it first hand mate, They’re all as bad as each other, they don’t care about us, well they didn’t when i worked there. Worked in four different depots and they were all the same. I say again. Tossers.

😉

Btw got my toothbrush. YAY!

fair enough, i dont have any experience, i was more talking about unions in general as a safeguard. i don’t doubt it though, union leaders in particularly can get corrupted by the same greed they are trying to protect the workforce from.

i’m all about unite the union tbh, specifically community and youth workers union. unite seem fairly sound to me.

the postal one, CWU, is still affiliated to the labour party. hmm. says a lot.

i’ve been waiting for my course results. i need them to know im going to uni next year, i need to get em sent off asap. although im not sure its royal mails fault for the delay, exam boards are notoriously shit at timekeeping.

[GiantMidget]

Things might be different now, When i worked for them i was 18 myself so it was quite a while ago now. Even though i slag them off it was actually a fucking awesome job.

Met a load of sound people and every day at work was a laugh. But when i joined the CWU and that’s when i started seeing how corrupted it all really was. Some of the stuff they considered striking over was truly laughable and tbh quite unreasonable.

Still though i loved my time at RM, wouldn’t mind working there again!

[GiantMidget]

Things might be different now, When i worked for them i was 18 myself so it was quite a while ago now. Even though i slag them off it was actually a fucking awesome job.

Met a load of sound people and every day at work was a laugh. But when i joined the CWU and that’s when i started seeing how corrupted it all really was. Some of the stuff they considered striking over was truly laughable and tbh quite unreasonable.

Still though i loved my time at RM, wouldn’t mind working there again!

[General Lighting]

@DJCliffy 342066 wrote:

Things might be different now, When i worked for them i was 18 myself so it was quite a while ago now. Even though i slag them off it was actually a fucking awesome job.

Met a load of sound people and every day at work was a laugh. But when i joined the CWU and that’s when i started seeing how corrupted it all really was. Some of the stuff they considered striking over was truly laughable and tbh quite unreasonable.

I keep a close watch on CWU as I have an interest in the telecoms industry as well (as I deal with BT on a virtually daily basis sometimes getting problems sorted out) and although they do still have some residual “1970s” attitudes they have got a lot better recently (their collective agreement between workers and management about the use of GPS equipment in Openreach vehicles to improve service delivery times is a good thing)

the wider problem is British management is dysfunctional throughout the nation in both private and public sector, and we have a culture that destroys industrial relations rather than encourages people to work together… Japanese and Chinese people and many European nations have trade unions as well but far less industrial disruption..

Also I now work in a semi rural area, not the city. Commercial pressures mean that rural areas are less profitable to provide good telecoms and postal services in and in a full free market based system they are second to the towns and cities, which isn’t good for the small businesses in these areas. In the village I work in it was one of the first in Mid Suffolk to get an automatic telephone system in 1932, and then in 1972 got one of the first electronic telephone exchanges – this was when the Post Office ran the telephone service as well.

But under privatised BT it only got broadband as late as 2004 and speeds are slower than in town, also line faults get fixed more slowly as the sharing of wooden poles shared with 400V EDF electricity cables means that Openreach has to use more expensive specially trained engineers.

In previous years the Post Office used extra money from the cities to subsidise services less profitable countryside areas – as did other utility companies, but now the profits often leak away to foreign companies.

bear in mind also I lived through the times when many ultilities were still nationalised. we might have gained in technology and initial short term financial gains, but the quality of customer service and reliability in privatised industries, particularly those with natural monopolies, is actually declining.

[General Lighting]

@DJCliffy 342066 wrote:

Things might be different now, When i worked for them i was 18 myself so it was quite a while ago now. Even though i slag them off it was actually a fucking awesome job.

Met a load of sound people and every day at work was a laugh. But when i joined the CWU and that’s when i started seeing how corrupted it all really was. Some of the stuff they considered striking over was truly laughable and tbh quite unreasonable.

I keep a close watch on CWU as I have an interest in the telecoms industry as well (as I deal with BT on a virtually daily basis sometimes getting problems sorted out) and although they do still have some residual “1970s” attitudes they have got a lot better recently (their collective agreement between workers and management about the use of GPS equipment in Openreach vehicles to improve service delivery times is a good thing)

the wider problem is British management is dysfunctional throughout the nation in both private and public sector, and we have a culture that destroys industrial relations rather than encourages people to work together… Japanese and Chinese people and many European nations have trade unions as well but far less industrial disruption..

Also I now work in a semi rural area, not the city. Commercial pressures mean that rural areas are less profitable to provide good telecoms and postal services in and in a full free market based system they are second to the towns and cities, which isn’t good for the small businesses in these areas. In the village I work in it was one of the first in Mid Suffolk to get an automatic telephone system in 1932, and then in 1972 got one of the first electronic telephone exchanges – this was when the Post Office ran the telephone service as well.

But under privatised BT it only got broadband as late as 2004 and speeds are slower than in town, also line faults get fixed more slowly as the sharing of wooden poles shared with 400V EDF electricity cables means that Openreach has to use more expensive specially trained engineers.

In previous years the Post Office used extra money from the cities to subsidise services less profitable countryside areas – as did other utility companies, but now the profits often leak away to foreign companies.

bear in mind also I lived through the times when many ultilities were still nationalised. we might have gained in technology and initial short term financial gains, but the quality of customer service and reliability in privatised industries, particularly those with natural monopolies, is actually declining.

[joshd96320]

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

just burnt my hand really bad with a soldering iron, was messing about with soome lights and stuff and i gripped the soldering iron with my hand. fucking dropped it as it hurt aswell and now theres a fat burn in the floor its fucking killing me and im dead meat :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[joshd96320]

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

just burnt my hand really bad with a soldering iron, was messing about with soome lights and stuff and i gripped the soldering iron with my hand. fucking dropped it as it hurt aswell and now theres a fat burn in the floor its fucking killing me and im dead meat :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

[GiantMidget]

I’m gonna rant about this shitty fucking weather. Has rained all day today. August better be better or there will be more rants to come.

Take note Mother Nature.

[GiantMidget]

I’m gonna rant about this shitty fucking weather. Has rained all day today. August better be better or there will be more rants to come.

Take note Mother Nature.

[General Lighting]

@joshd96320 342087 wrote:

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

just burnt my hand really bad with a soldering iron, was messing about with soome lights and stuff and i gripped the soldering iron with my hand. fucking dropped it as it hurt aswell and now theres a fat burn in the floor its fucking killing me and im dead meat :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

ouch! I did that at work one Monday in about 1999 (I didn’t live in this region back then although by some random coincidence I was fixing an audio circuit board for Anglia TV…).

That however was the consequences of a weekend of heavy amfetamine, MDMA and LSD use and not enough sleep..

at least you have the brains and skills to actually use one, most people your age in England no longer do much in the way of real hardware work..

[General Lighting]

@joshd96320 342087 wrote:

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

just burnt my hand really bad with a soldering iron, was messing about with soome lights and stuff and i gripped the soldering iron with my hand. fucking dropped it as it hurt aswell and now theres a fat burn in the floor its fucking killing me and im dead meat :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

ouch! I did that at work one Monday in about 1999 (I didn’t live in this region back then although by some random coincidence I was fixing an audio circuit board for Anglia TV…).

That however was the consequences of a weekend of heavy amfetamine, MDMA and LSD use and not enough sleep..

at least you have the brains and skills to actually use one, most people your age in England no longer do much in the way of real hardware work..

[joshd96320]

@General Lighting 342092 wrote:

ouch! I did that at work one Monday in about 1999 (I didn’t live in this region back then although by some random coincidence I was fixing an audio circuit board for Anglia TV…).

That however was the consequences of a weekend of heavy amfetamine, MDMA and LSD use and not enough sleep..

at least you have the brains and skills to actually use one, most people your age in England no longer do much in the way of real hardware work..

at least you were slightly numbed by the amount of drugs :laugh_at:

my hand will heal up, but my arse wont after i get a good telling off, my mum freaks about burns lol.. we got bits of carpet outside, time for emergency DIY

yeah i know how to use one, but accidents happen :crazy_diz

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