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  • #1119928
    lemonzorba
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      spark_plug wrote:
      surely makin it into a payed even goes against alot of the ethics of the people who are on this forum, and the reason they go to free parties?

      NO, NO, NO!

      it doesn’t.

      you went to shefstock – did that go against your ethics…? on 2nd thoughts, i don’t want to open that can o’ worms again :crazy: :crazy_diz

      “free” as in free/autonomous space – freedom to express yourself, and free from capitalist exploitation (if i’m not getting over the top here:bounce_fl ). As has been said many many times, free parties are not free to put on, they cost someone something. This party, although might cost around £25 to get in, nobody is making a profit here, its done for the love of it, and so glo (& whoever else helps him out) doesn’t end up out of pocket.

      If the only reason you go to free parties is cause you like to rip people off by refusing to donate, then maybe this would be against your ethics (not saying u are like that spark)

      #1140687
      lemonzorba
      Participant
        spark_plug wrote:
        surely makin it into a payed even goes against alot of the ethics of the people who are on this forum, and the reason they go to free parties?

        NO, NO, NO!

        it doesn’t.

        you went to shefstock – did that go against your ethics…? on 2nd thoughts, i don’t want to open that can o’ worms again :crazy: :crazy_diz

        “free” as in free/autonomous space – freedom to express yourself, and free from capitalist exploitation (if i’m not getting over the top here:bounce_fl ). As has been said many many times, free parties are not free to put on, they cost someone something. This party, although might cost around £25 to get in, nobody is making a profit here, its done for the love of it, and so glo (& whoever else helps him out) doesn’t end up out of pocket.

        If the only reason you go to free parties is cause you like to rip people off by refusing to donate, then maybe this would be against your ethics (not saying u are like that spark)

        #1119923
        globalloon
        Participant
          spark_plug wrote:
          exactly, were meetin eachother, not everyone is goin to meet the people in devon
          i jus think its a bit inconsiderate having a paid event in devon, it kinda singles out quite a few people

          i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

          how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

          #1140681
          globalloon
          Participant
            spark_plug wrote:
            exactly, were meetin eachother, not everyone is goin to meet the people in devon
            i jus think its a bit inconsiderate having a paid event in devon, it kinda singles out quite a few people

            i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

            how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

            #1119933
            suffolkravas
            Participant
              globalloon wrote:
              i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

              how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

              hehe theres no way we can have an event this big and make it within an hour from every pv member :you_crazy its totally considerate as long as its in the uk and everyones welcome :bounce_fl

              #1140692
              suffolkravas
              Participant
                globalloon wrote:
                i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

                how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

                hehe theres no way we can have an event this big and make it within an hour from every pv member :you_crazy its totally considerate as long as its in the uk and everyones welcome :bounce_fl

                #1119937
                marcusblanc
                Participant
                  suffolkravas wrote:
                  hehe theres no way we can have an event this big and make it within an hour from every pv member :you_crazy its totally considerate as long as its in the uk and everyones welcome :bounce_fl

                  Well said!:group_hug

                  #1140696
                  marcusblanc
                  Participant
                    suffolkravas wrote:
                    hehe theres no way we can have an event this big and make it within an hour from every pv member :you_crazy its totally considerate as long as its in the uk and everyones welcome :bounce_fl

                    Well said!:group_hug

                    #1119935
                    Raj
                    Participant
                      globalloon wrote:
                      i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

                      how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

                      I am fairly sure we have about 10 members from Devon actually Glo its just that they dont post much so others may have misssed them.

                      I think Devon is a great idea and I have to drive 2 hours to reach carlisle then down to devon which is another 400 miles. I plan to have a vehicle with at least 3 people in it to share some of the costs..

                      #1140694
                      Raj
                      Participant
                        globalloon wrote:
                        i know of 2 other Partyvibe members from Devon and one of those has moved to France

                        how the hell is it inconsiderate of me to offer to organise an event like this for free? please, tell me

                        I am fairly sure we have about 10 members from Devon actually Glo its just that they dont post much so others may have misssed them.

                        I think Devon is a great idea and I have to drive 2 hours to reach carlisle then down to devon which is another 400 miles. I plan to have a vehicle with at least 3 people in it to share some of the costs..

                        #1119941
                        PHARTY
                        Participant
                          starlaugh wrote:
                          Glo,

                          I really hope this idea gets off the ground, a weekend of HARD partying with people of partyvibe would be fucking awesome. Full of surprises and shocks as i meet people and they tell me their screen name, Come on if we were blessed with PHARTY’s company and he turned out to be small shy boy, i would actually eat the boxers off my arse. (pending his behaviour over the weekend)

                          Maybe you should put it in a different way, the guys of SJ manage to have a meet up. Why cant PV do the same. (theres might have been Alton towers or Something though)

                          I thought that ravers always talk about being united in fighting for something, at the moment it looks like we cant even arrange a piss up in brewery!

                          Any hows i am more than up for this!

                          A PV party would be something to remember………………………….. raaa

                          Im that up for this that Im really really seriously considering getting back to the UK for it Im sitting here thinking “I can get a return ticket from here for maybe 750 quid and its only a 12-13hr flight from Brunei my closest airport “thats how much I would like to get to this party raaa raaa raaa

                          #1140700
                          PHARTY
                          Participant
                            starlaugh wrote:
                            Glo,

                            I really hope this idea gets off the ground, a weekend of HARD partying with people of partyvibe would be fucking awesome. Full of surprises and shocks as i meet people and they tell me their screen name, Come on if we were blessed with PHARTY’s company and he turned out to be small shy boy, i would actually eat the boxers off my arse. (pending his behaviour over the weekend)

                            Maybe you should put it in a different way, the guys of SJ manage to have a meet up. Why cant PV do the same. (theres might have been Alton towers or Something though)

                            I thought that ravers always talk about being united in fighting for something, at the moment it looks like we cant even arrange a piss up in brewery!

                            Any hows i am more than up for this!

                            A PV party would be something to remember………………………….. raaa

                            Im that up for this that Im really really seriously considering getting back to the UK for it Im sitting here thinking “I can get a return ticket from here for maybe 750 quid and its only a 12-13hr flight from Brunei my closest airport “thats how much I would like to get to this party raaa raaa raaa

                            #1119924
                            globalloon
                            Participant
                              Raj wrote:
                              I am fairly sure we have about 10 members from Devon actually Glo its just that they dont post much so others may have misssed them.

                              I think Devon is a great idea and I have to drive 2 hours to reach carlisle then down to devon which is another 400 miles. I plan to have a vehicle with at least 3 people in it to share some of the costs..

                              there’s cheap flights from edinburgh, takes about an hour, but not ideal if you’re bringing loads of equipment

                              #1140682
                              globalloon
                              Participant
                                Raj wrote:
                                I am fairly sure we have about 10 members from Devon actually Glo its just that they dont post much so others may have misssed them.

                                I think Devon is a great idea and I have to drive 2 hours to reach carlisle then down to devon which is another 400 miles. I plan to have a vehicle with at least 3 people in it to share some of the costs..

                                there’s cheap flights from edinburgh, takes about an hour, but not ideal if you’re bringing loads of equipment

                                #1119970
                                bluepink_clefairy
                                Participant

                                  Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                  I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                  Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                  Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                  Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                  It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                  xxx

                                  #1140729
                                  bluepink_clefairy
                                  Participant

                                    Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                    I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                    Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                    Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                    Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                    It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                    xxx

                                    #1119925
                                    globalloon
                                    Participant
                                      bluepink_clefairy wrote:
                                      Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                      I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                      Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                      Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                      Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                      It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                      xxx

                                      you can catch trains to exeter from most parts of mainland uk fairly easily. i will try and sort out a shuttle from train / coach lines

                                      #1140683
                                      globalloon
                                      Participant
                                        bluepink_clefairy wrote:
                                        Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                        I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                        Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                        Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                        Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                        It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                        xxx

                                        you can catch trains to exeter from most parts of mainland uk fairly easily. i will try and sort out a shuttle from train / coach lines

                                        #1119917
                                        General Lighting
                                        Moderator

                                          As someone who has always lived in London/SE England (where stuff was more closer together) and is now in East Anglia (which is itself a very large region) and also doesn’t own a car I understand the travel problems

                                          but Globaloon is doing us a big favour.

                                          We could have done a PV free party 10 years ago when this place first started or maybe even in 2002/3 but ironically we didn’t need to as all our users already had lively party scenes in their “home areas”, as well as a fair few teknivals.

                                          now things have been changed. the “freedom” we had got abused and its been taken away.

                                          If we overtly tried hosting any unlicensed event using this site the authorities could get a Court Order on our server company and start demanding the personal info of people, as this site would be an accessory to a crime. It doesn’t matter that our server is in a foreign nation because our cops have international agreements to get this info.

                                          Free parties are no longer seen as harmless mischief. They are seen as medium level organised crime – an illegal event where a lot of drugs is sold and consumed, and where anti-social behaviour and sometimes even violence occurs – not just against the Police but within the people attending.

                                          The cops and NHS have actual real proof of these problems, not to mention the knock on effects of drug use and addiction.

                                          also if we are realistic, by may 2008 there will doubtless be more “robust” procedures in place for dealing with illegal parties. it doesn’t need parliament debate and new laws, just more resources to make better use of existing surveillance and enforcement techniques, and the cops are already being given these resources.

                                          TENS is the one olive branch the system has given us, maybe we should use it whilst its still there.

                                          #1140675
                                          General Lighting
                                          Moderator

                                            As someone who has always lived in London/SE England (where stuff was more closer together) and is now in East Anglia (which is itself a very large region) and also doesn’t own a car I understand the travel problems

                                            but Globaloon is doing us a big favour.

                                            We could have done a PV free party 10 years ago when this place first started or maybe even in 2002/3 but ironically we didn’t need to as all our users already had lively party scenes in their “home areas”, as well as a fair few teknivals.

                                            now things have been changed. the “freedom” we had got abused and its been taken away.

                                            If we overtly tried hosting any unlicensed event using this site the authorities could get a Court Order on our server company and start demanding the personal info of people, as this site would be an accessory to a crime. It doesn’t matter that our server is in a foreign nation because our cops have international agreements to get this info.

                                            Free parties are no longer seen as harmless mischief. They are seen as medium level organised crime – an illegal event where a lot of drugs is sold and consumed, and where anti-social behaviour and sometimes even violence occurs – not just against the Police but within the people attending.

                                            The cops and NHS have actual real proof of these problems, not to mention the knock on effects of drug use and addiction.

                                            also if we are realistic, by may 2008 there will doubtless be more “robust” procedures in place for dealing with illegal parties. it doesn’t need parliament debate and new laws, just more resources to make better use of existing surveillance and enforcement techniques, and the cops are already being given these resources.

                                            TENS is the one olive branch the system has given us, maybe we should use it whilst its still there.

                                            #1119942
                                            DogmaDave
                                            Participant
                                              globalloon wrote:
                                              fuck alton towers

                                              let’s RAVE

                                              couldn’t agree more:bounce_fl just tell me where & when, plus never been to devon & have heard loads of good things about ,also is that not where they make buckfast the the best drink on
                                              the planet

                                              #1140701
                                              DogmaDave
                                              Participant
                                                globalloon wrote:
                                                fuck alton towers

                                                let’s RAVE

                                                couldn’t agree more:bounce_fl just tell me where & when, plus never been to devon & have heard loads of good things about ,also is that not where they make buckfast the the best drink on
                                                the planet

                                                #1119944
                                                DogmaDave
                                                Participant
                                                  bluepink_clefairy wrote:
                                                  Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                                  I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                                  Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                                  Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                                  Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                                  It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                                  xxx

                                                  if you book train tickets far enough in advance you can get them for
                                                  pitance .i got tickets from edinburgh to glade & back for less than 60 bucks

                                                  #1140702
                                                  DogmaDave
                                                  Participant
                                                    bluepink_clefairy wrote:
                                                    Devon is a long way away from me, and is difficult to get to as I don’t drive and things.. I suppose I could get a train but it’s going to be about 40 pounds for me plus the 25 entry fee (which I don’t mind at all, it’s just the train… TRAINS ARE A WASTE OF MONEY!), and I’m only earning just under 150 pounds a week… and on top of that, I don’t know my way around Devon really, which means I’ll probably have to get a few taxis – which will cost me even more money if it’s out the way.

                                                    I’d rather have it in a place sort of central to everyone, or near enough anyway… but then that’s me lol, if everyone is fine with the idea then that’s fine, just don’t think I’d be able to make it.

                                                    Devon is a long and difficult way for people who are travelling from up North as well, or so I think anyway.

                                                    Out of all my friends only one drives, and he doesn’t like raves and preaches how much of a metal head he is all the time and things. Personally, I think he doesn’t know what he’s missing out on – he’s never even been to a rave!! But there you go lol.

                                                    Sorry to be awkward eek!

                                                    It would be cool to have somewhere slightly closer, but if Devon is the most easiest option for everyone then that’s fine… I will make it down there somehow!!! Maybe find some form of liftage from some kind person who doesn’t mind a quiet/shy [until wasted] Shelley being in their car! ^_^

                                                    xxx

                                                    if you book train tickets far enough in advance you can get them for
                                                    pitance .i got tickets from edinburgh to glade & back for less than 60 bucks

                                                    #1119958
                                                    Playground Politics
                                                    Participant

                                                      well if its august bank holiday, i probably cant come, shambala booked for that date:love: may bank holiday seems fine, or any good weekend, but the date has to go up quick or more and more ppl wont be able to go

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