to be honest i’m straigh but have plently of gay mates, and interms of using gay as a derogatory term, it all comes down to whether the said person meant it homophobicly or not, or it had just become part of their vocabluarly. tbh “gay” as in “thats gay” doesnt even have a reference to homosexuality with most people, its just grown to mean slang for shit!

i dont think people should get offended that easily, TG was quoting and not using the word herself and there was no offence implied whatsoever

basically…i shouldnt of brought it back up but i couldnt help myself. we should all lay the matter to rest now cause everyones had there say

What a nation of pussies we’ve become!! Sticks and stones and all that! I think people need to get a fucking backbone eh?!? :you_crazy

(First time i’ve seen this thread so there!)

I think your right Cliffy…

(YOU’LL A BUNCH OF SHANDY DRINKIN POOFTAHS!!!)

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😉 AHC was this you mate?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=535329&in_page_id=1770

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oh my god i cannot believe that im sure it was ment as an innocent joke but still

Here we go again…

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The wisecracking puppet, who has been on children’s TV since the Sixties, is being investigated by the police for racism, after his show featured a gipsy selling pegs and heather.
Members of the gipsy community complained to the Northamptonshire force, saying this was racial abuse.

didn’t think gypsys had tv’s …..:hiding: (jk)

I thought the complaint was also more about a further joke later on in the show about gipsy fortune tellers nicking wallets (which TBH I think is a bit off for a show aimed at children of infant/junior school age)

people have to be careful about challenging “stereotypes” though

What is actually wrong about the lady selling heather?

I’ve seen gipsies doing this in Reading as recently as the late 1990s, and the lady in the show was supposed to be one of Basil’s neighbours anyway (which would indicate they were on friendly terms – anyway a single lad living with a fox is a bit rum in itself…)

Its like how people whinged about Asians being portrayed as doctors and corner shop owners in 80s tv shows… whats wrong with that? doctors make people better, and shops are useful.

So they clamoured for “better, more realistic” portrayals of Asians – now they are portrayed as terrorists, criminals, drug addicts or coppers in dramas which may often be artistically good (and often fairly realistic) but in fact “talk up” problems and increase anger and divisions.

It is a little bit over the top for a kids TV program, but you are right. And I think there’s alot of things that can be found to be offensive out there to alot of different types of people. Comedians often joke of fat people, posh people, poor people, people who drink, people who dont drink, people who listen to whatever type of music. I dont think It would be right to condem one thing, and leave the rest as they are.

Even with the theory of the above, Its always been touchy anyway, and there’s loads of contradiction within the world when it comes to sterotypes, and whats alowed as a joke, and what isn’t. I tell you what, the whole thing itself is a fucking joke.

I luagh at fat jokes, but I have nothing against fat people. I have laughed at seemingly racist jokes, but I am definitely NOT racist. Infact, I got told alot og jokes that wwould be seen as controversial, buy a a devoted catholic, who ran his own church thing. He always told me they were just jokes, as they should be.

I think a joke is a joke as long as its not intended to insult anyone, because then its an insult of course. That is where the line should be drawn.

I also hope no one gets the wrong Idea about me from this post. Im just being honest enough for people to see how It really is.

i laugh at any thing i find funny .. can’t help it … even if the joke is “contravertial” .. i’m not gonna hold my laughter in just cos it’s not deemed pc … i laugh at jew jokes and so does my dad even tho he used to be jewish and me and him have jewish relatives … at the end of the day .. if some one makes a joke at a sterio type .. then all they are making fun of is “the sterio type” not the actual people .. unless a perticuler person falls into that sterio type it’s not realy about them imo