@Izbeckistan 512732 wrote:

Remember ‘nu raave!’
It was bang smack in the middle of my six form / college years.
Neon tops, skinny jeans, 80s game memorabilia like nintendo control pads on belt buckles; pretending to be bisexual, myspazz, emo fringe, hudoken,the klaxons , sabrepulse and tight boxers with superhero designs :p

Yeah. I said it wasn’t real and stuck with that mindset… nu rave isn’t even considered a genre by anyone.

Sabrepulse are good though, decent chiptune breakcore mashup shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOmZimH00oo

FEEL SICK AND DIRTY MORE DEAD THAN AH LIIIIVEEEE

Not met a student who was ‘horrified’ at the thought of drugs and I’ve been at Uni for 2 and a half years. In fact they’re pretty commonplace round my circle of friends. Most young people I have met seem to have dabbled but most prefer to stick to alcohol.

In spite of that I still think this generation of young people sucks. It feels to me as if sex, alcohol and drug use are now a means for young people to make a statement about themselves to other people. As if it’s some sort of competition. Maybe it’s part of this to craze be some sort of celebrity like those ‘gorgeous’ people they gawp at on TV. And what makes you a celebrity? Being a selfish, shallow arsehole of course!

I don’t want to sound too harsh – I have made lots of friends at Uni. Even if I don’t share their tastes/preferences, I think one will always find some common ground with people who seem very different.

@Dark Train 512898 wrote:

Not met a student who was ‘horrified’ at the thought of drugs and I’ve been at Uni for 2 and a half years. In fact they’re pretty commonplace round my circle of friends. Most young people I have met seem to have dabbled but most prefer to stick to alcohol.[/quote]

Bear in mind, it’s not exactly a career enhancing move – outside of the “licensed rebel”, or entertainment industry as some call it – to admit to any kind of drug experience. So I reckon there is a good chance some of them were not telling the truth. If I’m not sure of this point, I’ll generally say “Give us a blood test then” and watch their eyes.

@Dark Train 512898 wrote:

In spite of that I still think this generation of young people sucks. It feels to me as if sex, alcohol and drug use are now a means for young people to make a statement about themselves to other people. As if it’s some sort of competition. Maybe it’s part of this to craze be some sort of celebrity like those ‘gorgeous’ people they gawp at on TV. And what makes you a celebrity? Being a selfish, shallow arsehole of course!

I don’t want to sound too harsh – I have made lots of friends at Uni. Even if I don’t share their tastes/preferences, I think one will always find some common ground with people who seem very different.

Sadly, bitter experience has taught me that the last point isn’t always the case. And being young is something that you CANNOT be experienced in, by definition. So I’ve got quite a bit more faith in “da Yuth” than most folks. I mean, look around you – what is the point in struggling all your life to pay a mortgage when you can just stick a couple of traffic cones on your chest, wiggle your arse to a canned track and get paid a fortune for it? That isn’t dumb, that’s being honest that hard work is for donkeys.

Depends on the type of work and employer though. Some people realy LIKE working hard and are generously paid and valued. Doesn’t happen in the UK anymore of course, which is why the most sensible young people say “I’m off out of this shithole as soon as I can get there.”

y not murder my flat mate

These days “young people” is anyone from age 15-45 due to longer life expectancies and changing social values (especially in metropolitan areas, folk are not expected to get married and have children as early as before, or even to do so at all).

Street violence certainly has decreased since the 1980s. But that is because rival groups squaring up to another are spotted by CCTV and the towniewatch radio schemes, which means that the cops, councils and NGOs such as drugs/alcohol harm reduction charities, street pastors etc defuse a lot of trouble before it escalates. Weekend violence plummeted during the early rave days of the 90s but the sketchiness of comedowns etc meant a lot of really bad things happened even amongst groups of friends during midweek. There was and still is a lot of issues with interpersonal violence amongst friends/acquaintances and domestic violence (even in provincial areas where fears over gangs are way exaggerated).

The 60s/70s/80s/90s youth scenes were blighted by bullies, sexists, racists and nonces (as is now coming to light via the current investigations into both mainstream and alternative figures). Even in the 90s when attitudes were changing there was a lot of bad shit going on in the early days of the rave scene, I’ve personally witnessed incidents I wish I’d not seen..

To be fair young people today who still have something to live for still tolerant, enlightened in their views but much more clued about their own and others safety. however those of any age who feel they have nothing to lose can do a fuckload of damage, and society has to accept this and be prepared for it in various ways, both giving positive ways to use their energies and being aware of (and isolating from society) genuinely dangerous people.

@Izbeckistan 512986 wrote:

People will always complain about ‘the youth today’ and I daresay they always will.

You are right its page one chapter one sociology. The public’s/media perception of a constant moral panic. Much like my death; the mods vs rocks rumours were greatly exaggerated; even in Brighton that day.

@photographthesun 513046 wrote:

You are right its page one chapter one sociology. The public’s/media perception of a constant moral panic. Much like my death; the mods vs rocks rumours were greatly exaggerated; even in Brighton that day.

I know fuckloads of ageing hippies and although there was a few scum amongst them conventional societies authorities caught up with them sooner or later. the rest did far less drugs, sex and rock and roll than folk thought, and many dropped back into society and did a lot for our country in both public service and even the military when required.

strangely enough a large bulk of the retirees from Rat Salad Park are into prog rock (or indie if they are younger) and psychedelic culture, even if not the drugs..