@DJCliffy 357655 wrote:

My god man, Why is it when someone says something about crime in Britain they are immediately branded a daily mail reader?????????

nothing to do with him mentioning crime, its his views on crime eg lock them all up far to soft, their all scum, right wing hot air bla bla bla. Intelligent debate? oh no, just stick them all in a cell for even longer.

@DJCliffy 357665 wrote:

But surely you can see where he is coming from can’t you?

I can until you look a little deeper, start to really think about the issues he’s talking about. Then it just seems like an angry right wing over simplification. But its just my view, its probably as ignorant as his 😉

Please tell me what part is right wing. Punishing people?

All of what?

for those calling for harsher sentences – if you were unlucky to get busted for a large amount of drugs and charged with posession with intent to supply, would you say “I must take my punishment fairly and do 5 years instead of 18 months” or turn down early release, or not try and get a good lawyer to bargain down your sentence? I very much doubt it. So why expect other criminals not to do the same?

or if someone ripped you off and you had a fight with them and won but feds turned up and you got arrested, would you not try and plead self defence?

I know there is the argument recreational drug use should be legal, but there’s also a counterargument that on some occasions the use of drugs including party drugs makes people commit impulsive acts including violence.

I have seen people get violent even after taking “happy” drugs like pills. We must all know at least one person what gets a bit agressive on coke. Plus the kind of people what sell “happy” drugs are often involved in the nasty stuff. And as drugs aren’t legal yet and probably won’t be in our lifetimes we are all fuelling various forms of criminality by our own use, including the stuff we claim to hate.

the most recent incarnation of the “permissive” society, especially the grudging tolerance towards greater use of drugs and alcohol and the media being free to report on and even promote these activities as well as being able to talk more freely about sex started when Thatcho was in power – in 1987, a whole decade before anyone even knew about Tony Blair. it happened because she reduced controls on the media and companies to make the free market work better – I remember seeing society change myself. Thatcher herself regretted what she has done and said in a recent interview it was all a mistake and “freedom went too far”.

@TheLostOnes 357681 wrote:

1. It’s Illegal to die in any of the houses of parliaments

2. Placing a postage stamp with the british monarc up-side down is considered as treason

3. It’s illegal for women in Liverpool to be topless, unless they work in a shop with tropical fish

4. If anyone knocks at your door and requests to use your toilet, you have to say yes

5. A pregnant woman can piss anywhere, including a police helmet

6. It’s illegal to withold information of which you don’t want the tax collector to know, but it is perfectly legal to withold information you don’t care wether or not the tax collector knows

7. It’s illegal to walk into the house of parliament wearing an armour

8. It’s legal to kill a scotsman within the old citywalls in York if he is carrying darts and an arch

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