i thought they where beginning to call it hardcore not rave?

if they call it hardcore who gives a flying weasel and to be honest even if they do call it ‘rave’ why bother caring?

isnt the vibe and the atmosphere that matters not the ‘name’ at the top of the door?

digi a

hardcore has also been used as a term for various forms of punk rock back in the late 70s and 80s..

T-mobiles guide sounds rather more like a commercialised form of “old rave” to me :laugh_at:- then again mobile companies like rave and drug culture, it brings them lots of revenue each year

Emos becoming “new ravers” are more of an amusement to me than a threat to the scene, although I don’t like the way the marketing types are cherry picking the culture at the same time the backlash is threatening to close a lot of late night legal venues ( a combination of harsher licensing conditions, anti-drugs surveillance and the smoking ban )

What really does piss me off is UK garage heads calling their violence/gang ridden events “raves”, and by extension cops seeing all electronic dance events as a security risk because of this.

:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

She’s a bit of a spanner really the whole “new rave” thing isnt for the likes of us, its all about bands and stuff.

there is absolutely nothing new about rave/dance crossovers, we had that in 1989 with Candy Flip “Strawberry fields forever”, the Happy Mondays / Madchester scene, EMF…

in some ways though if it gets all the emos taking pills/MDMA and smiling and wanting to go to “old raves” that isn’t a bad thing at all (and is essentially what happened to a lot of goths back in the early 90s) but the media are definitely trying to tout this as a “safe, sanitised, rave without all the drugs” experience..

BBC Essex were plugging new rave on their website in 2006, virtually in the wake of the “riot-rave” in that very same county…

:weee: yeah i saw this…