@DeezNuts 537791 wrote:

I’m sorry for what i’m about to say and if you think ‘religion’ is the way you are going to save your life and become the all holy messiah of Jesus and spend eternity in heaven while us non believers are tortured not for one year, not for two, but for ETERNITY. Imagine being in immense pain for all of eternity simply because you didn’t accept someones belief system?

What I don’t get about most religious people is how they are willing to pick out which bits they can believe. E.g – The bible says if your wife cheats on you, you MUST stone her to death. You can’t eat shrimp. Homosexuality is wrong. You can’t cook a goat in its own mothers milk. I mean what the fuck? Just from a lot of what is written in there you can tell it is outdated. It’s amazing how many ‘christians’ will criticise me for denouncing the bible when they don’t even believe or follow all of it. I’d also just like to remind them that they are almost as atheist as me – out of all of the thousands of dieties imagined by people, you only believe in one. Why are all the others wrong and fake but yours is real? What sets it apart?
Your god is also pretty fucking evil – commiting mass genocide because of a few sinners.

Back on topic though – mate, if you are having revelations based on films, i’d probably reevaluate where you stand mentally.

^^ What deez said.

I agree fully to everything said there. At risk or diverting this thread slightly.. i actually don’t even label myself as an “atheist” Just a non-believer suits me fine. This is obviously not everybody who classes themself as an Atheist, but i know some people are so anti religion they almost become hypocritical in the sense their so called atheism in itself seems to be a religion in some form. The way they are SO set on the fact god doesn’t exist and how they set certain rules for themselves as an atheist. I dunno if that made sence, i’m sure someone on here gets what i’m saying, it’s hard to express meaning and emotion on the internet.. and i’m high

@pyɔross. 537797 wrote:

Don’t forget about wearing mixed cloth thats fucking way out of order.

Exactly. It’s pretty nonsenical how the majority of devout Christians don’t read the bible and will go to church like 3 times a year and celebrate Christmas.

Another thing I find ridiculous about religion in general is how they can follow it so blindly but they justify it by just having ‘faith’.
What I also don’t get is how if I made a religion today and said I was hearing voices from my God called Manbearpig people would say I was batshitcrazy yet many follow one that was created in the same way many thousands of years ago.

The bible has some great stories in it – honestly, some of them are quite good, but thats all they are – stories. Props to the guy that made it though even if he was an asshole, he made a shit ton of money by being the biggest conman known to man.

@Seasonz: Being anti religion is being antitheist. Atheism is just not believing in a God.

I will denounce religion openly because although I believe everyone has the right to believe what they want, it is pretty disgusting that people can preach views of hate on others under the guise of religion.
It is outdated shite that causes unecessary wars and hate.

@DeezNuts 537791 wrote:

I’m sorry for what i’m about to say and if you think ‘religion’ is the way you are going to save your life and become the all holy messiah of Jesus and spend eternity in heaven while us non believers are tortured not for one year, not for two, but for ETERNITY. Imagine being in immense pain for all of eternity simply because you didn’t accept someones belief system?

What I don’t get about most religious people is how they are willing to pick out which bits they can believe. E.g – The bible says if your wife cheats on you, you MUST stone her to death. You can’t eat shrimp. Homosexuality is wrong. You can’t cook a goat in its own mothers milk. I mean what the fuck? Just from a lot of what is written in there you can tell it is outdated. It’s amazing how many ‘christians’ will criticise me for denouncing the bible when they don’t even believe or follow all of it. I’d also just like to remind them that they are almost as atheist as me – out of all of the thousands of dieties imagined by people, you only believe in one. Why are all the others wrong and fake but yours is real? What sets it apart?
Your god is also pretty fucking evil – commiting mass genocide because of a few sinners.

Back on topic though – mate, if you are having revelations based on films, i’d probably reevaluate where you stand mentally.

How do you think we came to be? You really think we evolved from fish and monkeys? How do you explain every little detail on this earth, it was created by God. Things happen in our lives so we can eventually be brought to salvation, otherwise there would be no after life. Sometimes you need to look deeper in your life and ask why you are here. Why are we here? Ask the question of humanity, who am I? Everybody is here to serve a purpose, we’re not all just thrown on earth to have one big party and do no good. As for “picking out bits we choose to believe,” things change and as a society, we have brought up things to be so bad. It’s our minds that have changed things that were once just “things.” Things were never as bad back then as they are now. People are being brainwashed into thinking all change is good and sometimes it’s not. Why would Christians believe in anyone else but God? That’s like saying “why do people have one certain opinion towards a subject, why can’t they have other opinions like everyone else.” Christianity is unlike any other religion, there is no believing in other Gods. That would be like cheating. “Oh why are you only with one guy, why can’t you be with other guys too?” It’s called being FAITHFUL towards somebody. Things used to be so bad back then when Jesus was still alive. People didn’t know what “sin” was. He died for our sins and that’s the exact reason good and evil both exist in this world. Everyone’s a sinner but Christianity is all about forgiveness, and I’m not saying to forgive everyone, but to forgive the people that actually admitted to what they did. The ones who are honest

@MR207 537824 wrote:

How do you think we came to be? You really think we evolved from fish and monkeys? How do you explain every little detail on this earth, it was created by God. Things happen in our lives so we can eventually be brought to salvation, otherwise there would be no after life. Sometimes you need to look deeper in your life and ask why you are here. Why are we here? Ask the question of humanity, who am I? Everybody is here to serve a purpose, we’re not all just thrown on earth to have one big party and do no good. As for “picking out bits we choose to believe,” things change and as a society, we have brought up things to be so bad. It’s our minds that have changed things that were once just “things.” Things were never as bad back then as they are now. People are being brainwashed into thinking all change is good and sometimes it’s not. Why would Christians believe in anyone else but God? That’s like saying “why do people have one certain opinion towards a subject, why can’t they have other opinions like everyone else.” Christianity is unlike any other religion, there is no believing in other Gods. That would be like cheating. “Oh why are you only with one guy, why can’t you be with other guys too?” It’s called being FAITHFUL towards somebody. Things used to be so bad back then when Jesus was still alive. People didn’t know what “sin” was. He died for our sins and that’s the exact reason good and evil both exist in this world. Everyone’s a sinner but Christianity is all about forgiveness, and I’m not saying to forgive everyone, but to forgive the people that actually admitted to what they did. The ones who are honest

There’s no reasoning with people like this. Then again us atheists seem equally fixated on our ‘belief’ in science.

Uh oh.

@MR207 537824 wrote:

How do you think we came to be? You really think we evolved from fish and monkeys? How do you explain every little detail on this earth, it was created by God. Things happen in our lives so we can eventually be brought to salvation, otherwise there would be no after life. Sometimes you need to look deeper in your life and ask why you are here. Why are we here? Ask the question of humanity, who am I? Everybody is here to serve a purpose, we’re not all just thrown on earth to have one big party and do no good. As for “picking out bits we choose to believe,” things change and as a society, we have brought up things to be so bad. It’s our minds that have changed things that were once just “things.” Things were never as bad back then as they are now. People are being brainwashed into thinking all change is good and sometimes it’s not. Why would Christians believe in anyone else but God? That’s like saying “why do people have one certain opinion towards a subject, why can’t they have other opinions like everyone else.” Christianity is unlike any other religion, there is no believing in other Gods. That would be like cheating. “Oh why are you only with one guy, why can’t you be with other guys too?” It’s called being FAITHFUL towards somebody. Things used to be so bad back then when Jesus was still alive. People didn’t know what “sin” was. He died for our sins and that’s the exact reason good and evil both exist in this world. Everyone’s a sinner but Christianity is all about forgiveness, and I’m not saying to forgive everyone, but to forgive the people that actually admitted to what they did. The ones who are honest

That’s not true. There are many monotheistic religions. Have you not read the Old Testament? “Thou shalt have no other Gods before me” is kind of…well..the first commandment.

@MR207 537824 wrote:

How do you think we came to be? You really think we evolved from fish and monkeys? How do you explain every little detail on this earth, it was created by God. Things happen in our lives so we can eventually be brought to salvation, otherwise there would be no after life. Sometimes you need to look deeper in your life and ask why you are here. Why are we here? Ask the question of humanity, who am I? Everybody is here to serve a purpose, we’re not all just thrown on earth to have one big party and do no good. As for “picking out bits we choose to believe,” things change and as a society, we have brought up things to be so bad. It’s our minds that have changed things that were once just “things.” Things were never as bad back then as they are now. People are being brainwashed into thinking all change is good and sometimes it’s not. Why would Christians believe in anyone else but God? That’s like saying “why do people have one certain opinion towards a subject, why can’t they have other opinions like everyone else.” Christianity is unlike any other religion, there is no believing in other Gods. That would be like cheating. “Oh why are you only with one guy, why can’t you be with other guys too?” It’s called being FAITHFUL towards somebody. Things used to be so bad back then when Jesus was still alive. People didn’t know what “sin” was. He died for our sins and that’s the exact reason good and evil both exist in this world. Everyone’s a sinner but Christianity is all about forgiveness, and I’m not saying to forgive everyone, but to forgive the people that actually admitted to what they did. The ones who are honest

Yes that is exactly what I believe – that is much more logical then being placed on this Earth by some magical being for whom there is no evidence that he even exists. There is proof of evolution, there is an immense fossil record. The Earth isn’t 6,000 years old, we know that by archaeology. That means the Bible is untrue about the age of the Earth and probably untrue about a lot of other things written in it. I have asked myself this many times – it is one of the reasons I have a love for psychedelics as they enable me to explore myself and how I feel about myself, others, the world and existence in a way I didn’t think possible. I don’t need the idea of a God and the Afterlife to justify my existence or to make myself feel better about my life and eventual death. I accept that I will die, my reality will end, i’m still coming to terms with that but its not something I can stop – hell, if i’m right it won’t even matter as I won’t know i’m dead so whats the point stressing about it? If i’m wrong… i’ll be tortured for all of eternity and suffer greatly. Fortunately for you, if you are wrong atheists don’t believe that you deserve immense amounts of pain. I am me and I am happy with that. I define me by the actions I choose to take, the paths I choose to walk.
Everybody is here to serve a purpose indeed, but I don’t think there is some greater plan, to me that just sounds like people who choose to follow religion as they can’t come to terms with their mortality. Everybody chooses their own purpose in life – some want to become doctors and help others, others charity workers to help others too just in a different way.
We have brought up things to be so bad? So you’d rather that slavery was still legal, you didn’t have the vote and were considered inferior because of your sex, that poor people were considered inferior.
Of course people knew what ‘sin’ was back when Jesus was alive – Christianity wasn’t the first religion and unfortunately i’m pretty sure it won’t be the last (Well it definitely isn’t actually as many have been created since then). But thats besides the point anyway – people don’t need religion for morality, we can choose our own morality. I am good to others because that is how I wish to be treated aswell and how I feel everyone should be treated. If anything religion creates false morality as people merely do good things to get into heaven so they can live forever chillin’ with da guy in the sky.

Another jokes thing about Christianity (May be true for other religions aswell but i’m unsure.. i’m only familiar with Christianity as I went to a Church of England primary school and they basically attempted brainwash on us, we had to sing songs of praise to God and pray and shit.. nasty times) you could be a mass murdering paedophile rapist and as long as you confess your sins the minute before you die you can still get into heaven.. jokes..

@barrettone 537840 wrote:

That’s not true. There are many monotheistic religions. Have you not read the Old Testament? “Thou shalt have no other Gods before me” is kind of…well..the first commandment.

Ok well I didn’t mean to say it’s not like any other, there are some that are like Christianity, but they all have the same basic principle, believe in one and only God.

@MR207 537842 wrote:

For people that are athiests, I do believe that yes. But don’t you believe in turning into a tree or “coming back as something beautiful?” Is that what athiests believe?

Different atheists have different opinions on the afterlife, the common denominator is the none belief in God. The afterlife, should it occur, could be a completely natural process.

I believe there is no God (atheist) but on the subject of the afterlife I’m agnostic (haven’t formed an opinion yet). I’m open minded towards it but as I’m unlikely to be presented any evidence for or against it prior to my own death I give it little consideration as I believe I have no control over of it.

@DeezNuts 537850 wrote:

Nope.. we die and that’s it. Theres nothing.

I’m really sorry that you believe that

@MR207 537842 wrote:

For people that are athiests, I do believe that yes.

OK, interesting question here. Who do you believe he punishes more; none believers or followers of a different/wrong faith? Is worshipping an idle god worse than not worshipping?

Oh and I forgot to mention it in my other reply to you – of course not all change is good, whoever believes that is lying to themselves. To be honest I don’t know anyone that actually believes that, of course some changes are bad.