Forums Music Sound Engineering MIDI to Audio Record?

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  • #1052894
    p0ly
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      Got a MIDI to USB cable but need a program which will record my MIDI output from my Korg EMX. Help please.

      #1252812
      YoungOne
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        So on a basic scale you need to record sound from a USB port?

        #1252803
        p0ly
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          I need to record sound from a korg emx via MIDI into my laptop via a usb port…………………

          #1252813
          YoungOne
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            Try Audacity, its mostly used to record from USB turntables.
            If im wrong i apologize, i dont know alot about DJ stuff 🙂

            #1252809
            dubstep_joe
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              Record sound output? Uh as far as I’m aware midi is just an interface for ‘knob values/notes’ and not the actual ‘sound output’.

              I’m guessing you’d need a x to 3.5mm audio jack convertor thingy (which you plug into your pc’s audio line in). Or alternatively those midi interface boxies.

              Could be completely wrong though :P?

              #1252810
              dubstep_joe
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                forum.recordingreview.com/f23/korg-emx-midi-recording-sx3-9372/

                Theres something there about recording midi from the korg and then sending it back (midi in) when you want it played back.

                #1252793
                DaftFader
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                  It doesn’t work like that Poly … MIDI doesn’t carry any sound in it. You want to use the Audio our from your korg to record from … MIDI is just note on/off and time signature info and other stuff like that. It’s for linking with other midi to keep them in synk mainly.

                  #1252787
                  General Lighting
                  Moderator

                    if you can afford it you are way better off using some other equipment to record the audio – you can buy 24 bit audio recorders what use micro sd-cards for about £50-£100…

                    you then connect the analogue audio output from your Korg into the recorder, use the MIDI and your computer sequencer program to trigger the sounds from the Korg and use the recorder like the old style tape decks..

                    the difference is you can then use the USB or a card reader to get a digital wav file you could load back into other software…

                    #1252794
                    DaftFader
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                      @General Lighting 477228 wrote:

                      if you can afford it you are way better off using some other equipment to record the audio – you can buy 24 bit audio recorders what use micro sd-cards for about £50-£100…

                      you then connect the analogue audio output from your Korg into the recorder, use the MIDI and your computer sequencer program to trigger the sounds from the Korg and use the recorder like the old style tape decks..

                      the difference is you can then use the USB or a card reader to get a digital wav file you could load back into other software…

                      What’s better using this method of recording as opposed to recording stright to PC?

                      #1252788
                      General Lighting
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                        @DaftFader 477234 wrote:

                        What’s better using this method of recording as opposed to recording stright to PC?

                        I’d prefer having external recording kit simply because unless you’ve got a really decent pro-audio soundcard and a laptop tuned for audio recording you are going to get all the noise from the PC into the audio, especially laptops which are horrendous for this when not on battery, then there are all manner of gotchas with recording sound on laptops due to latency and the ACPI drivers (esp Win 7) for battery being broken.

                        also worth getting a cheap-ish mixer like the Soundcraft notepad series into which the Korg and any other MIDI controlled instruments can be plugged into (this allows you to have varying levels for your record output and monitor speakers, as the smaller recorders “one size fits all” mic/line input is otherwise easy to overload

                        #1252795
                        DaftFader
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                          @General Lighting 477259 wrote:

                          I’d prefer having external recording kit simply because unless you’ve got a really decent pro-audio soundcard and a laptop tuned for audio recording you are going to get all the noise from the PC into the audio, especially laptops which are horrendous for this when not on battery, then there are all manner of gotchas with recording sound on laptops due to latency and the ACPI drivers (esp Win 7) for battery being broken.

                          also worth getting a cheap-ish mixer like the Soundcraft notepad series into which the Korg and any other MIDI controlled instruments can be plugged into (this allows you to have varying levels for your record output and monitor speakers, as the smaller recorders “one size fits all” mic/line input is otherwise easy to overload

                          ah yeah i was thinking it was a pc he was using for some reason … even though i know he uses a lap top >.<

                          #1252804
                          p0ly
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                            @DaftFader 477225 wrote:

                            It doesn’t work like that Poly … MIDI doesn’t carry any sound in it. You want to use the Audio our from your korg to record from … MIDI is just note on/off and time signature info and other stuff like that. It’s for linking with other midi to keep them in synk mainly.

                            why does MIDI carry sound from one synth to another and why do MIDI things record and upload on MIDI sequncer programs if it doesn’t pick up any audio?

                            #1252805
                            p0ly
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                              well i just read MIDI sends data which is understandable. i need a recording program and the correct cable..

                              #1252789
                              General Lighting
                              Moderator

                                if your laptop doesn’t have line it the mic socket will overload badly. TBH you are way better off using something like this..

                                DR-07 – TASCAM – PORTABLE RECORDER, STEREO | CPC

                                if you can’t afford other midi instruments / mixer you can always take the wav files off this and put it into the DAW on your computer.

                                that said you are going to need a decent sound card anyway as laptop internal sound isn’t much good…

                                #1252808
                                Clusterfrog
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                                  I’m confused, do you want to record the MIDI data or audio data?

                                  If it’s the MIDI, any sequencer will do this (by setting up the MIDI ins/outs in the preferences, your USB driver should be an option), if it’s the audio you can use a sequencer or almost any audio program like GoldWave by connecting the keyboard jack output to your computer line in (all sound cards have one, usually minijack for cheaper ones)

                                  #1252811
                                  pablofitzyg
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                                    Which platform/OS are you using?

                                    Audio or midi or both?

                                    #1252796
                                    DaftFader
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                                      @p0ly 477331 wrote:

                                      why does MIDI carry sound from one synth to another and why do MIDI things record and upload on MIDI sequncer programs if it doesn’t pick up any audio?

                                      MIDI doesn’t carry sound from one synth to another. MIDI synks boths synths together so that when the sequencer program records the audio from both they are in perfect time the whole way through. Also it allows your sequencer program to trigger notes on your synths at precise times. You need to use Audio AND MIDI. Without audio you’ll hear nothing.

                                      Without MIDI anything you connect to your sequencer will only play when you physically press the play button on your synth and you’ll not be able to program in the notes in your sequencer, you’ll have to make the whole tune on the synth.

                                      For example when I have my MC 303 plugged in I’ll have midi cables and audio coming out of it. The audio cables I “capture” the sound from and the MIDI I use to control the MC 303 and keep it locked in time with the rest of my project.

                                      Give me a shout in pm when you online and are actually playing with your sound stuff and I’ll explain it in detail over chat.

                                      #1252797
                                      DaftFader
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                                        @p0ly 477332 wrote:

                                        well i just read MIDI sends data which is understandable. i need a recording program and the correct cable..

                                        yeah MIDI sends MIDI data what doesn’t contain any audio data. (encase you thought they ment audio data).

                                        #1252806
                                        p0ly
                                        Participant

                                          Do you think a macbook pro would be good for recording onto gl?

                                          #1252790
                                          General Lighting
                                          Moderator

                                            clusterfrog uses a mac of some sort and he claims it handles multiple audio recording and MIDI perfectly (not sure if he is doing both at the same time).

                                            #1252807
                                            p0ly
                                            Participant

                                              @General Lighting 477644 wrote:

                                              clusterfrog uses a mac of some sort and he claims it handles multiple audio recording and MIDI perfectly (not sure if he is doing both at the same time).

                                              i have a macbook pro and a mac desktop so if i could skip the buying of the soundcard recording device (i take it it’s a soundcard type device) i might be able to save a oner.

                                              #1252814
                                              Pat McDonald
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                                                I’m a firm believer in cheap and effective.

                                                EDIT: Checked the manual of the original and GOOD NEWS – easy way.

                                                http://www.korg.com/ReadMoreSupport.aspx?dld=2184

                                                Get an old Smart media card and one of those USB-Smart card readers. Record the track onto the card on the Korg EMX sampler. Take the card out and plug it into the USB-Smart card readers (some pound shops have them, shop around, they need not be expensive). Plug the USB end into the Mac lappy and the track should show up on listing for the memory card on the laptop as a .MID file.

                                                If that isn’t an option because the Smart media card port on the sampler is fucked – put up what sort of Macs ya got and I’ll look into it. I really don’t think a MIDI-USB port will work – because USB was supposed to replace MIDI and isn’t generally backwards compatible. If there’s a different serial port on the Mac side, you can transfer from a MIDI-port into that. But snag is a lot of USB gear isn’t really Mac compatible. When it comes to bodging together new and old, that is. Bodge isn’t really what Macs are about.

                                                #1252798
                                                DaftFader
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                                                  @Pat McDonald 478518 wrote:

                                                  I’m a firm believer in cheap and effective.

                                                  EDIT: Checked the manual of the original and GOOD NEWS – easy way.

                                                  Untitled Page

                                                  Get an old Smart media card and one of those USB-Smart card readers. Record the track onto the card on the Korg EMX sampler. Take the card out and plug it into the USB-Smart card readers (some pound shops have them, shop around, they need not be expensive). Plug the USB end into the Mac lappy and the track should show up on listing for the memory card on the laptop as a .MID file.

                                                  If that isn’t an option because the Smart media card port on the sampler is fucked – put up what sort of Macs ya got and I’ll look into it. I really don’t think a MIDI-USB port will work – because USB was supposed to replace MIDI and isn’t generally backwards compatible. If there’s a different serial port on the Mac side, you can transfer from a MIDI-port into that. But snag is a lot of USB gear isn’t really Mac compatible. When it comes to bodging together new and old, that is. Bodge isn’t really what Macs are about.

                                                  All you’ll transfer then is the midi data, what with out being played on the korg is useless for what Poly wants to do.

                                                  #1252791
                                                  General Lighting
                                                  Moderator

                                                    behringer phono souncard (unbalanced audio only) is £20 and works with both PC and Mac – if poly is only wanting to record one instrument this may be a way forward…

                                                    #1252815
                                                    Pat McDonald
                                                    Participant

                                                      @DaftFader 478525 wrote:

                                                      All you’ll transfer then is the midi data, what with out being played on the korg is useless for what Poly wants to do.

                                                      This isn’t quite accurate but I have discovered a snag. As per the manual, you can actually save ALL song data to Smart media.

                                                      Quote:
                                                      Page 77 of the manual
                                                      SmartMedia that was formatted on a device other
                                                      than the EMX-1 may not be recognized correctly.
                                                      In this case, re-format it on the EMX-1.
                                                      Saving data to SmartMedia
                                                      (Save All)
                                                      Here’s how you can save all of the EMX-1’s pattern data,
                                                      song data, and global data onto SmartMedia.
                                                      1. Insert the SmartMedia into the SmartMedia slot.
                                                      2. Press the GLOBAL key. (It will light.)
                                                      3. Hold down the Shift key and press step key 13
                                                      (CARD) (key 13 will blink). The parameter display
                                                      will indicate “CardMenu.”
                                                      4. The value display will indicate “Load.” Turn the
                                                      dial until this indicates “SaveAll,” and press key
                                                      13.

                                                      Snag is, getting a Mac to read the data. I don’t know if the format is FAT32 (pretty standard for memory cards and MP3 players) or some other fancy standard that Korg came up with. I also don’t know if the format for the saved data is .MID or some other standard. As for the format for what samples and instruments are…

                                                      … only Korg know. It might be worth checking with them, because if the Format IS a standard (.MID for tune notation and .WAV or .AAC for sample data) then it should read straight into a Mac without a problem.

                                                      IF NOT, then using a soundcard to resample the song played from the Korg EMX “live” is a viable guaranteed solution. But capturing the original data in digital form would give best fidelity.

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