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  • #1181864
    General Lighting
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      I’ve been reading a few other drugs forums to work out the risks of RC’s and TBH its really starting to get a bit stupid, people across the EU are actually getting very ill and/or dying from party drugs and RCs. its not from any one “killer drug”, but from the sheer quantity and frequency of drugs they are using – midweek use / poly drug use (as well as alcohol) – and not even giving the substances a chance to get out of their system.

      Many people actually don’t seem to be in very good physical or mental health to start with, (poor diet, no exercise, overweight) and what is worse IMO is that people are not just experimenting on themselves but they take knowingly stupid amounts (ignoring advice on forums like these and even the more scientific ones), they start feeling rough and then call 999 /112 and get hauled in to the Emergency Department.

      I’m certaintly not suggesting they risk their lives and don’t get medical treatment, but each time this happens the rest of society has paid £500 or more of their own money to fund these “experiments” and have had no choice in the matter.

      I’ve got friends and relatives in their 20s/30s what are or were into music and partying but have calmed down, studied hard and now serve their nation in the NHS. They are training to be doctors, nurses and pharmacists and many give up their weekends to work on the Emergency Department ward and end up looking after people their own age group what have been greedy (sometimes even having to put up with abusive behaviour from them). these sort of incidents harden their hearts and whilst they will always do what the job requires to make people better, as people rise up the ranks in the NHS they do get to speak to coppers and politicians and influence drugs law and policy.

      My own sister works in NHS and she is obviously a very caring young lady but she told me she is increasingly pissed off with seeing chavettes younger than her with a drug/alcohol habit and 4-5 kids some of which are always unwell due to mum not looking after them properly and dad long gone, and that stuff like this is changing her political views towards the right wing and she has never been like that.

      We are soon to get a new government (whether its a full Tory takeover or a hung Parliament with a Tory swing) and whilst the NHS is a sacred cow they are going to want to minimise the costs of peoples stupidity and excess. They might well decide to do this by making all RC’s class A/B, removing funding from “politically correct namby pamby pro-drugs organisations” (like the ACMD) and giving it straight to SOCA to increase surveillance and enforcement. The current Tory manifesto already points to an “abstinence based approach”.

      How people treat their recreational drugs in the next few months could easily shape the future of the Govt response to them, either for good or bad and it isn’t loooking good at all.

      #1185770
      Psil
      Participant

        Spot on General Lighting. I have to say reports like captain’s are too common where the other already illegal drugs are ignored as with Teenager dies of ‘net drug’ overdose – The Local where the “net drug” is listed as the cause of the problems.

        I also fear that the response to legal highs will be used in anti-legalisation arguments saying “Look what happened when people had easy access to legal drugs. If we legalise drug X everyone will go batshit on it and die”

        However the glimmer of hope comes from what people are saying after they have had bad experiences with RC’s. Never again seems to come across very strongly.

        #1185771
        Psil
        Participant

          Can I also have a little rant about what we are calling this compound. 4-methylmethcathinone has been assigned the name mephedrone.

          Methedrone is 4-Methoxymethcathinone or PMMC (or bk-PMMA)

          Methadrone is synthetic opioid and is the first compound to be named in the topic title. Is it possible to get this changed to prevent any misunderstandings.

          #1181865
          General Lighting
          Moderator

            I’ve changed the title (been meaning to do that but hadn’t got round to it)

            Its an interesting coincidence that you should mention Methedrone and Sweden, as what has happened is that 4-MMC has been made a controlled substance there, but not bk-PMMA. So now bk-PMMA (which appears to be more toxic) has taken over from 4-MMC and there have been more deaths!

            #1185460
            1984
            Participant

              @Psil 359931 wrote:


              I recommend mixing them with a high dose of stimulants to captain because it would probably result in coma or death thereby curing his retardation.

              bloody sarcasm and the internet, my bad sorry.

              ps why oh why is it so hard to stop reading PV? because there’s nothing else to do…

              #1184776
              eumeph
              Participant

                On library computer dont have long, just a quick update.
                If I could tell you the story of the “bank” setup, (this is a story that will be passed on from grandkids to grandkids) you would not believe it, but it actually happned. Unreal. But the moneys still frozen (“safely”)

                I’m going to try something new this week, if there is any development I’l tell you “all I can”

                there are people with several k tied up who I cannot put into words how sound many of them hace been, but daly i totaly get while ur so frustrated. my moneyflows fucked to and i am still not sorted my dwp money so im relying on my mum bringing me food, my dad helping me out at wickes (they even bought me a £40 bagless hoover after my japaneses ebay one exploded)

                I wish i could say more but I feel its too risky
                The good vibes ive recieved are more than appreciated, im on a mission, that mission is to get your money or goods back. I feel there is a high chance.
                cheers,
                k

                #1184712
                nathan2022001
                Participant

                  Well seeing as you’re keeping us in the loop, would you mind explaining the wrong number you gave me in an email?
                  Cheers.

                  (intentionally copy/pasta meh previous post)

                  #1182442
                  GiantMidget
                  Participant

                    Back to the drone front, Has anyone noticed how fucked their nose is after doing it? It’s almost two weeks on and my nose is still raw.

                    Never had it last this long before and i’m no stranger to insufflated products, it actually feels like my nose wants to fall apart. fucking nasty. :hopeless:

                    #1185299
                    olboy
                    Participant

                      @DJCliffy 360020 wrote:

                      Back to the drone front, Has anyone noticed how fucked their nose is after doing it? It’s almost two weeks on and my nose is still raw.

                      Never had it last this long before and i’m no stranger to insufflated products, it actually feels like my nose wants to fall apart. fucking nasty. :hopeless:

                      IMO you’ve been doing a lot of wrong’un, Mephe of <99% pure shouldn't be doing that fella, no way. I've done a bit recently and although I get bunged up and have to sloosh out my sinuses out with water occasionally it hasn't affected my nose at all.

                      : ) get a different supplier

                      laters

                      #1182443
                      GiantMidget
                      Participant

                        @olboy 360043 wrote:

                        IMO you’ve been doing a lot of wrong’un, Mephe of <99% pure shouldn't be doing that fella, no way. I've done a bit recently and although I get bunged up and have to sloosh out my sinuses out with water occasionally it hasn't affected my nose at all.

                        : ) get a different supplier

                        laters

                        Safe bruva, Nah i think i’ll just not do any nose related rugs for a little while. (or up that particular nostril lol) :love:

                        #1181866
                        General Lighting
                        Moderator

                          4-MMC is harsh on the nose. A mate who is very hardcore when it comes to drugs, physically robust and some might even think he is a big scarey bloke actually cannot snort it as it hurts too much.

                          #1182823
                          DaftFader
                          Participant

                            @General Lighting 360057 wrote:

                            4-MMC is harsh on the nose. A mate who is very hardcore when it comes to drugs, physically robust and some might even think he is a big scarey bloke actually cannot snort it as it hurts too much.

                            only thing i ever snorted that was worce is 2cb .. that really hurt alot ….

                            #1183459
                            p0ly
                            Participant

                              i snorted alot of 2c-t-7 this weekend, supposed to be much worse than 2c-b snorted and i thought drone hurt alot more. maybe it’s to do with the quantity but oh well!!

                              snorting drugs just isn’t very painful to me

                              #1185243
                              miike_88
                              Participant

                                @buddmeister 358621 wrote:

                                Cheers for keeping us informed geezer, great research stuff. Group HUG, LOL :group_hug

                                Gotta agree:) thought id never here from you again but is good to see your trying to sort everything out, hope it all goes well mate.

                                #1182824
                                DaftFader
                                Participant

                                  @p0ly 360062 wrote:

                                  i snorted alot of 2c-t-7 this weekend, supposed to be much worse than 2c-b snorted and i thought drone hurt alot more. maybe it’s to do with the quantity but oh well!!

                                  snorting drugs just isn’t very painful to me

                                  also the amount to insuflicate as well

                                  #1183461
                                  p0ly
                                  Participant

                                    tbh i find 1/3g lines of k a pleasent feeling up the nose, i think i just like the pain

                                    #1182444
                                    GiantMidget
                                    Participant

                                      @p0ly 360069 wrote:

                                      tbh i find 1/3g lines of k a pleasent feeling up the nose, i think i just like the pain

                                      I like the pain at the time, it’s afterwards i don’t like! 😉

                                      #1183462
                                      p0ly
                                      Participant

                                        so have u been told off for eumeph, was it the mephe? the lone? the phenny?

                                        or a combo?

                                        are your researching chem days over?

                                        #1183463
                                        p0ly
                                        Participant

                                          next day ket rot, used to be a good hangover before i needed loads.

                                          other drugs have always been fairly bad hangover wise (snorted)

                                          #1184254
                                          FBN2013
                                          Participant

                                            i’ve snorted meph twice and both times it stang like hell! so just went back to mixing in my strongbow! mixing it with yr drink or bombing it is the only options unless u want yr brain to fall out through yr nose!! Also has anyone kept meph for a long time before doing it. It’s just that the stuff i did i’d had for about 4 months and basically it just felt like speed (but not as good). It’s just that the first few times i had it when it was fresh! i got what you’d call music appreation or those mandy type feelings but now like i said it just feels like speed! Anyone else found this?

                                            #1185773
                                            Psil
                                            Participant

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                                              GIV ME BACK MY MONAAY!

                                              Seriously though, I hope everything works out for you mate.

                                              #1185834
                                              micfac
                                              Participant

                                                hi folks noob here – dying to try this meph and get off the ching (all 20% pure of it) ive noticed the research companys selling meph all seem to want bank transfers – nobody takes debit cards? any advice by pm would be most appreciated

                                                #1183837
                                                barnzy001
                                                Participant

                                                  just been thinking the same thing myself you can use visa but your gonna have to open a alertpay account

                                                  #1183464
                                                  p0ly
                                                  Participant

                                                    @LFB2009 360125 wrote:

                                                    i’ve snorted meph twice and both times it stang like hell! so just went back to mixing in my strongbow! mixing it with yr drink or bombing it is the only options unless u want yr brain to fall out through yr nose!! Also has anyone kept meph for a long time before doing it. It’s just that the stuff i did i’d had for about 4 months and basically it just felt like speed (but not as good). It’s just that the first few times i had it when it was fresh! i got what you’d call music appreation or those mandy type feelings but now like i said it just feels like speed! Anyone else found this?

                                                    you are gonna get meth(ph) mouth doing that!

                                                    #1181867
                                                    General Lighting
                                                    Moderator

                                                      bombing is probably the safest option here.

                                                      I would actually test the pH of the stuff if I had the kit as I am sure it is either very alkaline or very acidic but it is not easy for a British Asian man to obtain chemistry equipment these days around “fireworks time” without getting the local constabulary (and the Met) asking difficult questions.

                                                      Any of the brainy people on here tried this or found info about it?

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