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November 3, 2009 at 11:27 pm #1181864
I’ve been reading a few other drugs forums to work out the risks of RC’s and TBH its really starting to get a bit stupid, people across the EU are actually getting very ill and/or dying from party drugs and RCs. its not from any one “killer drug”, but from the sheer quantity and frequency of drugs they are using – midweek use / poly drug use (as well as alcohol) – and not even giving the substances a chance to get out of their system.
Many people actually don’t seem to be in very good physical or mental health to start with, (poor diet, no exercise, overweight) and what is worse IMO is that people are not just experimenting on themselves but they take knowingly stupid amounts (ignoring advice on forums like these and even the more scientific ones), they start feeling rough and then call 999 /112 and get hauled in to the Emergency Department.
I’m certaintly not suggesting they risk their lives and don’t get medical treatment, but each time this happens the rest of society has paid £500 or more of their own money to fund these “experiments” and have had no choice in the matter.
I’ve got friends and relatives in their 20s/30s what are or were into music and partying but have calmed down, studied hard and now serve their nation in the NHS. They are training to be doctors, nurses and pharmacists and many give up their weekends to work on the Emergency Department ward and end up looking after people their own age group what have been greedy (sometimes even having to put up with abusive behaviour from them). these sort of incidents harden their hearts and whilst they will always do what the job requires to make people better, as people rise up the ranks in the NHS they do get to speak to coppers and politicians and influence drugs law and policy.
My own sister works in NHS and she is obviously a very caring young lady but she told me she is increasingly pissed off with seeing chavettes younger than her with a drug/alcohol habit and 4-5 kids some of which are always unwell due to mum not looking after them properly and dad long gone, and that stuff like this is changing her political views towards the right wing and she has never been like that.
We are soon to get a new government (whether its a full Tory takeover or a hung Parliament with a Tory swing) and whilst the NHS is a sacred cow they are going to want to minimise the costs of peoples stupidity and excess. They might well decide to do this by making all RC’s class A/B, removing funding from “politically correct namby pamby pro-drugs organisations” (like the ACMD) and giving it straight to SOCA to increase surveillance and enforcement. The current Tory manifesto already points to an “abstinence based approach”.
How people treat their recreational drugs in the next few months could easily shape the future of the Govt response to them, either for good or bad and it isn’t loooking good at all.
November 4, 2009 at 12:51 am #1185770Spot on General Lighting. I have to say reports like captain’s are too common where the other already illegal drugs are ignored as with Teenager dies of ‘net drug’ overdose – The Local where the “net drug” is listed as the cause of the problems.
I also fear that the response to legal highs will be used in anti-legalisation arguments saying “Look what happened when people had easy access to legal drugs. If we legalise drug X everyone will go batshit on it and die”
However the glimmer of hope comes from what people are saying after they have had bad experiences with RC’s. Never again seems to come across very strongly.
November 4, 2009 at 1:09 am #1185771Can I also have a little rant about what we are calling this compound. 4-methylmethcathinone has been assigned the name mephedrone.
Methedrone is 4-Methoxymethcathinone or PMMC (or bk-PMMA)
Methadrone is synthetic opioid and is the first compound to be named in the topic title. Is it possible to get this changed to prevent any misunderstandings.
November 4, 2009 at 1:27 am #1181865I’ve changed the title (been meaning to do that but hadn’t got round to it)
Its an interesting coincidence that you should mention Methedrone and Sweden, as what has happened is that 4-MMC has been made a controlled substance there, but not bk-PMMA. So now bk-PMMA (which appears to be more toxic) has taken over from 4-MMC and there have been more deaths!
November 4, 2009 at 8:46 am #1185460@Psil 359931 wrote:
I recommend mixing them with a high dose of stimulants to captain because it would probably result in coma or death thereby curing his retardation.bloody sarcasm and the internet, my bad sorry.
ps why oh why is it so hard to stop reading PV? because there’s nothing else to do…
November 4, 2009 at 1:54 pm #1184776On library computer dont have long, just a quick update.
If I could tell you the story of the “bank” setup, (this is a story that will be passed on from grandkids to grandkids) you would not believe it, but it actually happned. Unreal. But the moneys still frozen (“safely”)I’m going to try something new this week, if there is any development I’l tell you “all I can”
there are people with several k tied up who I cannot put into words how sound many of them hace been, but daly i totaly get while ur so frustrated. my moneyflows fucked to and i am still not sorted my dwp money so im relying on my mum bringing me food, my dad helping me out at wickes (they even bought me a £40 bagless hoover after my japaneses ebay one exploded)
I wish i could say more but I feel its too risky
The good vibes ive recieved are more than appreciated, im on a mission, that mission is to get your money or goods back. I feel there is a high chance.
cheers,
kNovember 4, 2009 at 2:27 pm #1184712Well seeing as you’re keeping us in the loop, would you mind explaining the wrong number you gave me in an email?
Cheers.(intentionally copy/pasta meh previous post)
November 4, 2009 at 6:13 pm #1182442Back to the drone front, Has anyone noticed how fucked their nose is after doing it? It’s almost two weeks on and my nose is still raw.
Never had it last this long before and i’m no stranger to insufflated products, it actually feels like my nose wants to fall apart. fucking nasty. :hopeless:
November 4, 2009 at 8:11 pm #1185299@DJCliffy 360020 wrote:
Back to the drone front, Has anyone noticed how fucked their nose is after doing it? It’s almost two weeks on and my nose is still raw.
Never had it last this long before and i’m no stranger to insufflated products, it actually feels like my nose wants to fall apart. fucking nasty. :hopeless:
IMO you’ve been doing a lot of wrong’un, Mephe of <99% pure shouldn't be doing that fella, no way. I've done a bit recently and although I get bunged up and have to sloosh out my sinuses out with water occasionally it hasn't affected my nose at all.
: ) get a different supplier
laters
November 4, 2009 at 8:46 pm #1182443@olboy 360043 wrote:
IMO you’ve been doing a lot of wrong’un, Mephe of <99% pure shouldn't be doing that fella, no way. I've done a bit recently and although I get bunged up and have to sloosh out my sinuses out with water occasionally it hasn't affected my nose at all.
: ) get a different supplier
laters
Safe bruva, Nah i think i’ll just not do any nose related rugs for a little while. (or up that particular nostril lol) :love:
November 4, 2009 at 9:41 pm #11818664-MMC is harsh on the nose. A mate who is very hardcore when it comes to drugs, physically robust and some might even think he is a big scarey bloke actually cannot snort it as it hurts too much.
November 4, 2009 at 9:44 pm #1182823@General Lighting 360057 wrote:
4-MMC is harsh on the nose. A mate who is very hardcore when it comes to drugs, physically robust and some might even think he is a big scarey bloke actually cannot snort it as it hurts too much.
only thing i ever snorted that was worce is 2cb .. that really hurt alot ….
November 4, 2009 at 9:53 pm #1183459i snorted alot of 2c-t-7 this weekend, supposed to be much worse than 2c-b snorted and i thought drone hurt alot more. maybe it’s to do with the quantity but oh well!!
snorting drugs just isn’t very painful to me
November 4, 2009 at 9:58 pm #1185243@buddmeister 358621 wrote:
Cheers for keeping us informed geezer, great research stuff. Group HUG, LOL :group_hug
Gotta agree:) thought id never here from you again but is good to see your trying to sort everything out, hope it all goes well mate.
November 4, 2009 at 10:00 pm #1182824@p0ly 360062 wrote:
i snorted alot of 2c-t-7 this weekend, supposed to be much worse than 2c-b snorted and i thought drone hurt alot more. maybe it’s to do with the quantity but oh well!!
snorting drugs just isn’t very painful to me
also the amount to insuflicate as well
November 4, 2009 at 10:01 pm #1183461tbh i find 1/3g lines of k a pleasent feeling up the nose, i think i just like the pain
November 4, 2009 at 10:03 pm #1182444@p0ly 360069 wrote:
tbh i find 1/3g lines of k a pleasent feeling up the nose, i think i just like the pain
I like the pain at the time, it’s afterwards i don’t like! 😉
November 4, 2009 at 10:06 pm #1183462so have u been told off for eumeph, was it the mephe? the lone? the phenny?
or a combo?
are your researching chem days over?
November 4, 2009 at 10:07 pm #1183463next day ket rot, used to be a good hangover before i needed loads.
other drugs have always been fairly bad hangover wise (snorted)
November 5, 2009 at 12:16 am #1184254i’ve snorted meph twice and both times it stang like hell! so just went back to mixing in my strongbow! mixing it with yr drink or bombing it is the only options unless u want yr brain to fall out through yr nose!! Also has anyone kept meph for a long time before doing it. It’s just that the stuff i did i’d had for about 4 months and basically it just felt like speed (but not as good). It’s just that the first few times i had it when it was fresh! i got what you’d call music appreation or those mandy type feelings but now like i said it just feels like speed! Anyone else found this?
November 5, 2009 at 1:56 am #1185773
GIV ME BACK MY MONAAY!Seriously though, I hope everything works out for you mate.
November 5, 2009 at 3:47 am #1185834hi folks noob here – dying to try this meph and get off the ching (all 20% pure of it) ive noticed the research companys selling meph all seem to want bank transfers – nobody takes debit cards? any advice by pm would be most appreciated
November 5, 2009 at 10:50 am #1183837just been thinking the same thing myself you can use visa but your gonna have to open a alertpay account
November 5, 2009 at 11:57 am #1183464@LFB2009 360125 wrote:
i’ve snorted meph twice and both times it stang like hell! so just went back to mixing in my strongbow! mixing it with yr drink or bombing it is the only options unless u want yr brain to fall out through yr nose!! Also has anyone kept meph for a long time before doing it. It’s just that the stuff i did i’d had for about 4 months and basically it just felt like speed (but not as good). It’s just that the first few times i had it when it was fresh! i got what you’d call music appreation or those mandy type feelings but now like i said it just feels like speed! Anyone else found this?
you are gonna get meth(ph) mouth doing that!
November 5, 2009 at 12:02 pm #1181867bombing is probably the safest option here.
I would actually test the pH of the stuff if I had the kit as I am sure it is either very alkaline or very acidic but it is not easy for a British Asian man to obtain chemistry equipment these days around “fireworks time” without getting the local constabulary (and the Met) asking difficult questions.
Any of the brainy people on here tried this or found info about it?
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