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October 23, 2009 at 9:53 pm #1181851
@DaftFader 357968 wrote:
alltho imo you are right about 4-mmc being simila to amphet .. you need to realise that meth-amphet .. is also an “amphet” type drug …. an the crossover is unkonwn … i have done speed .. and very pure mdma in my time … and so have some of my friends …. but regardless of the toxisity of 4-mmc … it seems top have a hold on people very quickly that i havn’t experianced like this other than when i took coke for a few times in a row …
I’ve noticed this happen with certain individuals with normal dexamfetamine, particularly base (then again I did use to hang around with a lot of speed freaks!) That said I would agree with you that 4-MMC may have similarities to methamfetamine – certainly the compulsive redosing and I’ve noticed a lot of former coke users tend to say its “like coke”.
TBH I have only considered the stuff to be “happ(ier) speed” rather than a full substitute for MDMA – but then again these days I don’t really want to be loved up in a group of people unless everyone else is feeling the same and you don’t get that sort of group any more at raves or other social occasions..
October 23, 2009 at 9:58 pm #1182789@General Lighting 357971 wrote:
I’ve noticed this happen with certain individuals with normal dexamfetamine. I would agree with you that 4-MMC may have similarities to methamfetamine – certainly the compulsive redosing and I’ve noticed a lot of former coke users tend to say its “like coke”.
TBH I have only considered the stuff to be “happ(ier) speed” rather than a full substitute for MDMA – but then again these days I don’t really want to be loved up in a group of people unless everyone else is feeling the same and you don’t get that sort of group any more at raves or other social occasions..
yeah i tend to freak people out sometimes from forcing love and happyness apon people … i just caught the end of the era .. and kinda find it funny how all my mates of the same age who have got into raving a few years after me as i hung around with a few guys a few years older when i got into it all … seem to all still be the childish cunts we all used to be at school .. and they just dont understand .. along with alot of the raves my age .. what it all came from … the same reason you probably dont feel at ease at raves .. is the same reason i feel a bit lonely there … as people just dont follow them same united values .. every one is just there for there group .. it’s not about sharing experiances or finding common ground .. it’s just about going out with a group of mates to a club … and that’s the exact opposit of why the whole thing started in the first place …
October 23, 2009 at 10:15 pm #1185668Ok, I don’t know if I’ve missed it butr the sex thing? I am now so turned on it’s unreal and couldnt get it up if my life depended on it. Is this the point people use viagra?!
Also, would people suggest I’ve gone overboard doing it 3 Fridays in a row? All 3 times the dose has been between .5g – .8g I think. Also, no booze, just water and a quiet night in.
Also, have a night off next week as visiting friends before planning another session in a fortnight.
Final question, how long from start to finish does the process to ban the substance take through the courts. Are we likely to get a month or two stocking up warning or do these things get done overnight. this is my first forray into reserach drugs. As at poresent it seems it’s just under scrutiny I’m guessing we have a couple of months.
Also, thanks to whoever earlier posted the couples warning. Not ignoring you, thanks for the heads up. So far, only 2 times, no comedown at all and a much improved homelife. DOn’t worry though should it affect the relationship it will be gone long before the love cos my wife is fucking amazing!
Love you all. God I’m mashed!
October 23, 2009 at 10:23 pm #1181852I’d say your usage level is moderate and unlikely to cause problems.
As for the laws, with previous drugs its taken about 1.5-2 years to get a ban though parliament and the courts, and there has been a delay of a few months between the law hitting the statute books and actual enforcement. This was however with our “namby pamby politically correct” current government, who may not be in power this time next year, replaced with a government comprising people of our own generation who haven’t forgotten the excesses of the 90s and don’t want to see them happen again..
October 23, 2009 at 10:28 pm #1182790@SuperNeil 357977 wrote:
Ok, I don’t know if I’ve missed it but the sex thing? I am now so turned on it’s unreal and couldnt get it up if my life depended on it. Is this the point people use viagra?!
Also, would people suggest I’ve gone overboard doing it 3 Fridays in a row? All 3 times the dose has been between .5g – .8g I think. Also, no booze, just water and a quiet night in.
Also, have a night off next week as visiting friends before planning another session in a fortnight.
Final question, how long from start to finish does the process to ban the substance take through the courts. Are we likely to get a month or two stocking up warning or do these things get done overnight. this is my first forray into reserach drugs. As at poresent it seems it’s just under scrutiny I’m guessing we have a couple of months.
Also, thanks to whoever earlier posted the couples warning. Not ignoring you, thanks for the heads up. So far, only 2 times, no comedown at all and a much improved homelife. DOn’t worry though should it affect the relationship it will be gone long before the love cos my wife is fucking amazing!
Love you all. God I’m mashed!
well each to there own … if you got no grownd work to go on when youur taking .5-.8 then that’s not sensible imo … even if you done .2-.3 and felt like taking more cos you heard some one else took that much … it’s still a bit risky … if your looking for an all out amazing buzz .. do some extram sports … imo … i barly touched on this subject .. but an adrenalin rush kicks the fuck out of any drug you can buy or make … i am yet to jump out of a plane .. but i have flone one .. and that alone was a better buzz than i have ever got from drugs alone! the only thing drugs do .. is stimulate passages and receptors in your brain that can be done naturaly from other things … if you have a need to do that much in one go .. you really need to be thinking about jumping out of a plane as an alternative … it’s much more fun 😉
October 23, 2009 at 10:29 pm #1185669p/s the ‘am I overedoing it question’ feel free to be totally honest. I’ve relied on the great advice I’ve had from this forum since I first got into this stuff so I won’t takle offence if someone more experienced has a view on it.
ALso, why does my wife have chronic wind (she’s asked me to add ‘both ends!’ and I get no similar sympton. Anyone else having this as she thought she had period pains last week but it was just trapped wind! She’s asked me to put this by the way I’m not embarerassing her. Anyone ele get teh symptoms or is she damaging her stomach.
Like I say, few weeks of after this I think as work commitments. Like CLiffy said, you need a recovery time. I do Friday night and am just ready for Monday morning at work. SO far I feel 100% by monday but no idea how people are doing it during teh week.
Just seen in teh time it;s taken me to deviate from my original point GL has replied! lol
Thanks mate, and the legal one is interesting I think due to they fact I can’t pysically do more than gram means I should be able to stock pile when it comes to it!
Oh, and I thought oif something else. Tolerance levels. RAther than doing a mix of small and large lines to drag it out we decided to do teh 4 large ones and be in bed by 2-3. Iteresting the 3 doses so far have been monumental and match what I only had once on teh two previoius sessions. mind you, I also like the smaller lines that just l;eave us chatting all night. I’m from a coke background I love that this goves a similar buzz in terms of chatting!
Right, thats it. Getting the missus to switch this off cos otherwise you will be bored out of your minds and I’m probably ruining other peoples night! I’ll post a full review agaion tomorrow. Hope that doesnt annoy people but other shave been benefical to me.
Night all!
October 23, 2009 at 10:30 pm #1185671Daft fader. Advice noted thanks mate. I will see after effects over the next few days before my next session in a fortnight to see how to approach it. Thanks again to all who contribute here.
October 23, 2009 at 10:42 pm #1182791@ the wind bit … the relaxing of muscles can make you fart alot .. if you tence .. and do something that makes you relax .. it may very well make you fart … (i have been told i do this after sex sometimes >.< )
October 24, 2009 at 8:26 am #1185733At the end of the day get to know your body and your limits – there are no confirmed deaths. Anyway my grandad died from taking penicilin you just never know how things react with different people!?!
Take it slowly and keep it to what feels comfortable, what works for you may not work for someone else. I personally love the stuff but I do appreciate different opinions.
I will keep using it in a controlled way and right now I am ready for another little line and a pint of pop.
Lots of fluid guys and minimal beer and you will be fine – it is also a very strong aphrodisiac………….. And my husband uses it too and certainly has no issues in the bedroom department!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn’t recommend doing more than 3 grams to yourself in any 24 hours………… But like I say learn your limits.
Meow and out
x
October 24, 2009 at 10:50 am #1184490Took some methylone for the first time last night and was surprised (given what I’d read about its gentle comedown), to find that I didn’t sleep a wink and felt as though my entire body was palpitating.
It really was a lovely experience initially. Like MDMA but without that feeling of being hit by a truck. HOwever, I lay there for hours feeling somewaht anxious afterwards. Think I may have done too much. Around 250 mg. Be careful with it.
October 24, 2009 at 10:58 am #1181853250mg is a lot for a first dose of a new substance. Bear in mind decent pills were often only 100-150mg of MDMA.
October 24, 2009 at 12:17 pm #1185452@evobird 357992 wrote:
I wouldn’t recommend doing more than 3 grams to yourself in any 24 hours………… But like I say learn your limits.
xCall me foolish, but isn’t advising that 3 grams is the limit a bit mad??!?! The only drug I’d take 3g of in one night (when I am being sensible, not self destructive) is weed!
October 24, 2009 at 12:25 pm #1184436So would anyone like to comment regarding my previous post…dont wish to name them again, however…it is so disappointing…any previous with said people? ty x
October 24, 2009 at 12:27 pm #1185453@zolacd 358025 wrote:
So would anyone like to comment regarding my previous post…dont wish to name them again, however…it is so disappointing…any previous with said people? ty x
you aren’t allowed to post links to websites selling drugs.
October 24, 2009 at 4:21 pm #1184491Yeah, I feel foolish, must say. Tend to be a little more careful. Jeckyl and Hyde substance. Nice and light then horrid
October 24, 2009 at 4:54 pm #1185721250mg was a nice starting dose in my experience, then followed by 100mg top ups.
October 24, 2009 at 5:52 pm #1185316@1984 358022 wrote:
Call me foolish, but isn’t advising that 3 grams is the limit a bit mad??!?!
I couldn’t agree more!
October 24, 2009 at 6:25 pm #1184772Hi all,
As many if you are aware eumephedrone is no longer “there”I cant say to much at tje moment but from lets just say “my instinct” the cops are doing everything possible to suspend/end my business , because they know as much as they do ive dont nothing against the law.
I need to make a few things ccrystal clear. Once EVERYONE who has not recieved resrarch chemicals they paid for will recieve them with compensatory amount added. as soon as i get back my research chemicals, i cant give a timescale on now, but there will be a timescale added in the coming days (god forbid weeks)
Point B on crystal clear points. REFUND shall be ISSUED AS SOON AS THE BLOCK OF MY BANK ACCOUNT HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF
I know many of you are more than frustrated, and I feel persoally responsible, on a crusade if you lke to make sure all research chemicals get to their proper destinations and il be working closely with my solicitor to make sure this gets resolved as soon as possible.
PS Max.I am sorry, im just as sorry youve met some nutcase who will now not leave me alone.
We will know more next week, and I will be fast to report any new developments.
cheersOctober 24, 2009 at 7:27 pm #1182409It’s so moreish!!! :laugh_at:
October 24, 2009 at 9:45 pm #1183418peace
October 25, 2009 at 12:55 am #1184215so whats going on the then eumephe? u got the police up ur bum? did they confiscate your products and money? im sure im not alone in wondering what has happened to you.
October 25, 2009 at 2:48 am #1185058🙁 i made an order the day before things went tits up lol
hope you sort things out mate.
October 25, 2009 at 3:05 am #1185060when trying a new substance its best – ideally – to take it in a controlled environment with a gentle build up so you can see exactly what its effects are.
having said that, i dont really do that. i just go for it and get fucked (which generally doesn’t end well e.g vids of me rolling about on youtube).
October 25, 2009 at 3:07 am #1185061mephe makes me go fucking mad, combined with a bit of alcohol i feel – and look – like im tripping. you never know how different chemicals react with different people as everyones brain chemistry is very different.
October 25, 2009 at 4:03 am #1182792hope you get it sorted for your own sake mate … this is there fucking mess. … if they wanna controll shit .. they need to take responsabilty .. dont feel guilty … you didn’t plan this … they fucking did it … good luck with it all man … <3
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