Apparently drinking alcohol while on coke produces a lethal toxin… ive never ever had coke and not been pissed were talking years of use here and im still alive 😉

Ofc the difference with mmcat and coke is mmcat is pretty much unstudied.

@sargie 374152 wrote:

Apparently drinking alcohol while on coke produces a lethal toxin… ive never ever had coke and not been pissed were talking years of use here and im still alive 😉 [/quote]

heres some info for the brainy people …

Cocaethylene – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the main reasons I don’t do coke these days are

1] its expensive
2] I have to travel several miles to find good stuff
3] I don’t like the attitudes associated with it
4] cops get on your case and I’ve already got a record for class A’s

4-MMC isn’t all that bad and TBH maybe people “get the drug culture they deserve”?

Even if its made class A tomorrow I reckon its here to stay and still be “popular” (at least with dealers) as it must be fairly easy to synthesise and is cheaper than “true illegals”

@sargie 374157 wrote:

Thanks for that so it sounds like it boosts the seretonin reuptake inhibiters? maybe thats why i always find coke nicer when im pissed? orrrrr im talking rubbish 😛

seems like its exactly what all the scientific stuff is saying, the only caveat being it might make you more likely to have heart problems..

TBH I think the wider problem with younger drug users and heart problems might be a pre-existing poor state of health.

When people are aged 18-25 they often get their first house away from their parents (who might nag them more about diet/lifestyles etc), many also get their first motor car and thus stop walking or cycling especially if they do not live in a city area, and often eat a lot of junk food..

add drugs to all this and sadly its probably not suprising a few people don’t make it..

@Archibald Wankrist 374121 wrote:

Don’t do them anymore but Es were always my worst comedown, felt like part of your brain had turned to sponge. Not good for Mondays back at work :crazy_diz

An E comedown is pretty fucking unpleasant.

Ever since ive been taking Drone (about 8/9 months now) ive always been cursing how moorish it is.

So last weekend me and two of the lads decided to see how long we could keep taking on a continious basis. We started at about 11PM last saturday night after a few beers. Got some music on and would just keep snorting (no drops) every so often. At around 6pm on Sunday night and 12gs later we decided we had enough after it gotten to the stage that we were struggling through our lines.

Now normally after being on Meth im fine and dandy after a decent sleep. After we decided to finish we smoked a bit of weed and staggered into bed around 8ish.

Woke up at 10am the next day for work and for the first 3 days of this week ive been basically like a zombie. Never felt like this on the Mephe after a sleep.

Would you say it is due to the amount taken that has made me feel like this. Or a bad batch?

6g in 19/20hrs….

don’t go down this road…

doesn’t end well

@Luisgarciaisgod 374189 wrote:

Ever since ive been taking Drone (about 8/9 months now) ive always been cursing how moorish it is.

So last weekend me and two of the lads decided to see how long we could keep taking on a continious basis. We started at about 11PM last saturday night after a few beers. Got some music on and would just keep snorting (no drops) every so often. At around 6pm on Sunday night and 12gs later we decided we had enough after it gotten to the stage that we were struggling through our lines.

Now normally after being on Meth im fine and dandy after a decent sleep. After we decided to finish we smoked a bit of weed and staggered into bed around 8ish.

Woke up at 10am the next day for work and for the first 3 days of this week ive been basically like a zombie. Never felt like this on the Mephe after a sleep.

Would you say it is due to the amount taken that has made me feel like this. Or a bad batch?

In my professional opinion i would think it was hoofing 12gs that has done you a wrong un.

You say it was about 4 grams to yourself, I find you only really need a G for one night, maybe another half for later on to wind down on? 12 gs between 3 people is just asking for trouble tbh.

Maybe take a break off the stuff as well cos if you’re feeling this bad your body is telling you to stop.

Not to be alarmist but You’re very lucky you didn’t die. Look after yourself man.

Man, some people are really stupid with this shit :you_crazy. they are going to spoil it for every body else you wait and see.

just been told by someone on another forum that apparently a 20 year old girl in Lancashire/GMP area has fatally OD’d…

@General Lighting 374273 wrote:

just been told by someone on another forum that apparently a 20 year old girl in Lancashire/GMP area has fatally OD’d…

Shame –

the thing with these chemicals is people really should be listening to the experts – who advise E or even speed as safer alternatives as to (semi) quote ‘at least we know what we are dealing with’, there is much more research, experience and evidence for these out…

Ask people – from users to medical and drugs experts – whether it is safe and they will tell you they just don’t know. It is the illegal aspect of other drugs that is putting people at risk by encouraging them to seek out legal drugs instead, says Professor David Nutt, who was the chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) until he was sacked in October by the home secretary, Alan Johnson, for criticising government drugs policy. “I know it’s controversial to say it, but people are better off taking ecstasy or amphetamines than those we know nothing about,” he says. “Who knows what’s in [mephedrone] when you buy it? We don’t have a testing system. It could be very dangerous, we just don’t know. These chemicals have never been put into animals, let alone humans.”

just coz its still legal dont mean its safe..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/dec/05/mephedrone-problem-legal-highs

@Tank Girl 374276 wrote:

just coz its still legal dont mean its safe..

I worry about this stuff long term. Probably one of the reasons why I rarely touch the stuff.

Granted it is a nice buzz but the after effects from drone are far too severe I find, so abusing it would be extremely foolhardy imo.

not us

was the powdery kind that i liked best .. just the price in the clubs is going up .. and i need to find out the proper name so i can try find it online ..i also read here that there is a lot of scams about and lost money when getting this online .. would be most gratfull if some one could e mail me and save me getting scammed .. also what is the price expected to buy online for a ounce