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February 17, 2010 at 9:00 pm #1182056
a g is a lot. i think part of the reason this stuff is so insidious is that it doesn’t feel like a lot. i’ve not seen any dosage research on mmc itself yet, but other methcathinones (specifically m1, which there is published research about) are only about one third as active in serotonin as mdma. so you end up taking 3x more of it to get the same serotonin effect. but 1g still has 1g’s worth of effect on the rest of your body and even on the other bits of your brain (norepinephrine, dopamine etc).
February 17, 2010 at 10:33 pm #1181710Anonymous@Kaziza 372937 wrote:
After a 2 day binge suffered something quite unlike anything have done before.. brain zaps? the feeling of being electrocuted in the brain, quite strange, then accompanied by a very faint feeling (like that when you stand up way too fast) happened at work when i would take a sip of cold water….
Wondering if this is just me or has anyone else experienced this?
I Have experienced these brain ‘zaps’ before. still to this day im unsure as to what caused them. wont have been drone as i dont touch the stuff. maybe to much Ket or to much loud Music could have played a part, who knows.
they dissapeared after a while anyway and have never reternedFebruary 17, 2010 at 10:37 pm #1182530@CozMik 373123 wrote:
I Have experienced these brain ‘zaps’ before. still to this day im unsure as to what caused them. wont have been drone as i dont touch the stuff. maybe to much Ket or to much loud Music could have played a part, who knows.
they dissapeared after a while anyway and have never reternedMdma causes this as well. I used to get it all the time. You’d be lying down then suddenly the zaps would start.
Never had it on drone before but then again I rarely touch the stuff. 😉
February 17, 2010 at 11:20 pm #1182871lack of sleep plays a big part .. and stimulent drugs … i think the “brain zaps” are your brain telling u it’s fucked … mby certain recepters trying to work but failing dismaly … or some kinda acute head ache?
February 17, 2010 at 11:27 pm #1181948@GiantMidget 373047 wrote:
To be honest dude mashups ain’t the same anymore, Nothing hits me like it used to. raaa
@1984 373049 wrote:
yeah its so much harder to get that same mashed up feeling when u have over indulged, that seems pretty consistent.
there’s nothing abnormal about these feelings. You only get about 10 or so (maybe less) really good times with MDMA etc then it levels off permanently. This is just your brain’s survival mechanism, in the real, hostile, predatory world it is risky to be that loved-up and friendly as you could be putting yourself at danger, so your brain adjusts the “happiness levels” downwards to remind you of reality.
February 18, 2010 at 12:04 am #1185916@General Lighting 373130 wrote:
there’s nothing abnormal about these feelings. You only get about 10 or so (maybe less) really good times with MDMA etc then it levels off permanently. This is just your brain’s survival mechanism, in the real, hostile, predatory world it is risky to be that loved-up and friendly as you could be putting yourself at danger, so your brain adjusts the “happiness levels” downwards to remind you of reality.
Damn you are good lol
February 18, 2010 at 12:32 am #1182057@DaftFader 373129 wrote:
lack of sleep plays a big part .. and stimulent drugs … i think the “brain zaps” are your brain telling u it’s fucked … mby certain recepters trying to work but failing dismaly … or some kinda acute head ache?
tis true DF, i quite often used to get those brain zaps after 2 days+nights on the tiles. Don’t get them often now – couldn’t keep it up that long even if there were so many parties on these days ! but i’ve still had it a few times when i was tired but couldn’t sleep.
February 18, 2010 at 12:41 am #1186014@General Lighting 373130 wrote:
there’s nothing abnormal about these feelings. You only get about 10 or so (maybe less) really good times with MDMA etc then it levels off permanently. This is just your brain’s survival mechanism, in the real, hostile, predatory world it is risky to be that loved-up and friendly as you could be putting yourself at danger, so your brain adjusts the “happiness levels” downwards to remind you of reality.
thats not the real answer if you look into the neurological side of things the tolerance build up comes from receptors closing the door on neurotransmitters as a result of increased (abnormal) activity……which with regular use or heavy use can become permenent…hence the reason us guinea pigs cant get us kicks anymore….lol :you_crazy
February 18, 2010 at 1:17 am #1181711Anonymous@General Lighting 373130 wrote:
there’s nothing abnormal about these feelings. You only get about 10 or so (maybe less) really good times with MDMA etc then it levels off permanently. This is just your brain’s survival mechanism, in the real, hostile, predatory world it is risky to be that loved-up and friendly as you could be putting yourself at danger, so your brain adjusts the “happiness levels” downwards to remind you of reality.
yeah. this is the same with k. after a while you stop being able to k hole properly.
February 18, 2010 at 1:24 am #1181949@oldtimer 373135 wrote:
thats not the real answer if you look into the neurological side of things the tolerance build up comes from receptors closing the door on neurotransmitters as a result of increased (abnormal) activity……which with regular use or heavy use can become permenent…hence the reason us guinea pigs cant get us kicks anymore….lol :you_crazy
why would the brain work like that unless there is a valid survival reason for doing so? IMO it seems perfectly natural for the body to deal with an abnormal chemical balance in such a way (even if the results are unpleasant) just as antibodies deal with physical illness. perhaps its hard to explain and I am not a doctor or neurologist but I’ve found the brain is very powerful to help you survive if you want to (even if you might be suffering from depression or other mental health issues) – sometimes your own bodies natural cures are unpleasant but they do the job.
There are indeed many risks in long term heavy stimulant use – both physical and mental, and I’ve seen a lot of the research but I’m sceptical as half of it is funded by the feds in the USA who have a vested interest in scaring people and at least one “MDMA” research paper is highly flawed using another drug.
What I talking about is fairly moderate use – going by my own experience in the early 1990s when the cost of decent pills and sporadic availability limited the amount you could take (unless you wanted to get into crime).by 1993/4 or so the pills were just as good and of course I did get high but it wasn’t that feeling of total bliss of 1991/2.
There was also a resurgence in good quality MDMA comparatively recently in the Noughties. I did get almost the same buzz from the early 1990s but something else made me hold back the feelings and “keep my head screwed on” rather than letting go like I did in the 1990s. OK some of it is indeed growing up but thats no bad thing.
maybe I have used up a bit more serotonin than some other dudes – even then I’m unsure – and I don’t think I’ve “bramaged my dain” at all after two decades of partying…
The harsh facts are that although excessive depression is unhealthy and debilitating (as 1984 has said elsewhere), the natural state of a human being is not to be overly happy and optimistic which is why the brain treats excessive happiness as abnormal!
Incidentally I’ve noticed way more happy go lucky/optimistic people harm themselves and even end their lives over the last two decades than so-called “pessimists”…
February 18, 2010 at 1:27 am #1181950@CozMik 373136 wrote:
yeah. this is the same with k. after a while you stop being able to k hole properly.
tolerance with K comes on really fucking quickly and I wasn’t even particularly into the stuff…
February 18, 2010 at 1:42 am #1181712Anonymousits probably for the best though as i reckon you wud end up going banannas if you where having those intense k-hole trips (like your first few) after every line. plus theres the putting urself at danger bit, having a high tolerance to k atleast means you can remain somewhat in control of urself lol..
February 18, 2010 at 9:38 am #1185588@General Lighting 373139 wrote:
tolerance with K comes on really fucking quickly and I wasn’t even particularly into the stuff…
tolerance and the short acting effect are major reasons why its so addictive sadly
February 18, 2010 at 4:16 pm #1185186personally i dont see how anyone could get addicted to k lol.
February 18, 2010 at 4:17 pm #1185590@Buzz 373183 wrote:
personally i dont see how anyone could get addicted to k lol.
oh how I want some K, right now, in my nose. bye bye world hello nothingness fuzz. mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
February 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm #1182531@Buzz 373183 wrote:
personally i dont see how anyone could get addicted to k lol.
I’m with ya on that one.
February 18, 2010 at 8:38 pm #1181713Anonymousits a love hate ting with regret
February 19, 2010 at 10:24 pm #1186019Hi all first post here im a long time pill coke head in moderation ofc and my m 8’s have told me of mephedrone.
The other night coked up and pissed up i bought 1g of it, i got it in powder form but it is hard to rack up.
Did my first line at about 9pm, at first i was wondering what the feck id done,intense burn to my nostrill rather like snorting zodiacs crushed up years ago. I then get tunnel vision very spacy like mdma for a minute or 2 i was regretting it thinking this stuf is shite.
By the 15 minute mark i was sweating shaking allot like when youve had a lot of e. 20 minutes in and i needed some tunage so i put some trance on and i immediatly started to feel euphoric im still sweaty but no more than when on e. Now i just feel shit hot had my 3rd line now quite a big one but it burnt no were near as much as the first and the hit is instant.
Im gurning like a pro i feel shit hot for the £11 i paid for 1g compared to £40 for .8 on coke this stuff is the nuts!
February 19, 2010 at 11:48 pm #1185957Except your coke… probably had a about 5 cents worth of real coke in it. That’s probably why.
February 23, 2010 at 12:30 am #1181951Since 15th February 2010, Romania has put mephedrone into their equivalent of class A (along with lots of other party drugs).
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February 23, 2010 at 12:38 am #1182903lips felt like rubber after a night an day of doing this shit. everytime i do it im reminded of why i hate it.
February 23, 2010 at 10:40 am #1181714Anonymous@DWManc 339295 wrote:
Hi,
I’ve been taking various drugs for the last year (MDMA, Ket, pills and weed) some more than others.I recently came across something new. They are legal pills (well they are legal to have if you fertilize your plants with them) which i found have similar effects to MDMA. They are called meow and m1 pills.My friend just chatted to me about how apparentaly some kid died from takin mephedrone and smokin weed. (4-Methylmethcathinone – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) Now im not sure whats in meow or m1 but im pretty sure its in one of them. Anyway im planning a big night next friday in manchester and i was planning on taking a few of the m1 pills.
SO does anyone know whats in them and whether i should be scared about smoking after? Im concidering just buying some normal pills from my dealer lol
Cheers,
DWRight just to clear things up , ill say a few home truths…
Methadrone is plant feed i’m not sure wether it is yet illegal or just difficult to get hold of but if you sniff it , it will sting yes… but the buzz in my opinion is better than any coke or bass , anphet so on and so forth.. i have ever done , one problem with it , it is highly addictive , when its gone you feel yourself instantly wanting more , as for dying on smoking weeed with it well…. i sell my friends cannabis and we have been on methadrone for 6 days straight and each day we was heavily drinking and smoking weeed , i find hitting bongs smoking weeed anything with a rush increases the buzz that the methadrone brings , also drinking extends the buzz in my personal opinion , this may not be the same for everyone but it was for the 12 of us. and when i say smoking weeed i mean half ounces – ounces while were on the methadrone and drinking.
hope this helps ..x
CrisisFebruary 23, 2010 at 11:53 am #1184416@Crisis 373651 wrote:
Right just to clear things up , ill say a few home truths…
Methadrone is plant feed i’m not sure wether it is yet illegal or just difficult to get hold of but if you sniff it , it will sting yes… but the buzz in my opinion is better than any coke or bass , anphet so on and so forth.. i have ever done , one problem with it , it is highly addictive , when its gone you feel yourself instantly wanting more , as for dying on smoking weeed with it well…. i sell my friends cannabis and we have been on methadrone for 6 days straight and each day we was heavily drinking and smoking weeed , i find hitting bongs smoking weeed anything with a rush increases the buzz that the methadrone brings , also drinking extends the buzz in my personal opinion , this may not be the same for everyone but it was for the 12 of us. and when i say smoking weeed i mean half ounces – ounces while were on the methadrone and drinking.
hope this helps ..x
CrisisUmm you are probably talking about Mephedrone, not Methadrone. It is not actually plant food. I don’t actually think that this drug is highly addictive, more of a fiendish thing and not knowing when to stop. You can’t say something is addictive just because you went on a 6 day bender with it. It can be addictive but a 6 day bender has nothing to do with addiction. Drinking is the worst thing you can do on Meph, I find it makes you have a horrible comedown and makes you do more.
February 23, 2010 at 1:53 pm #1183642@Crisis 373651 wrote:
Right just to clear things up , ill say a few home truths…
Methadrone is plant feed i’m not sure wether it is yet illegal or just difficult to get hold of but if you sniff it , it will sting yes… but the buzz in my opinion is better than any coke or bass , anphet so on and so forth.. i have ever done , one problem with it , it is highly addictive , when its gone you feel yourself instantly wanting more , as for dying on smoking weeed with it well…. i sell my friends cannabis and we have been on methadrone for 6 days straight and each day we was heavily drinking and smoking weeed , i find hitting bongs smoking weeed anything with a rush increases the buzz that the methadrone brings , also drinking extends the buzz in my personal opinion , this may not be the same for everyone but it was for the 12 of us. and when i say smoking weeed i mean half ounces – ounces while were on the methadrone and drinking.
hope this helps ..x
Crisishe sells his friends cannabis, naughty naughty IP ADDRESS ALERT
February 23, 2010 at 9:45 pm #1181715Anonymousi have a gram most weekends,never had any problems not cut with any shit and gets me buzzing :crazy_dru
most stories are sensationalised and the people in the stories generally just overdo a mixture of things
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