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February 4, 2010 at 12:20 am #1185956
@1984 371061 wrote:
yes, and that’s helpful or indeed relevant because…
Well it was mentioned previously “Didn’t some kid die of mephedrone?”… it is pretty stupid to even bother mentioning that… it means nothing people kids die off drugs everyday. That was my point.
February 4, 2010 at 1:56 am #1185830hey guys, the 14yr girl that died from “mephedrone” actualy died from cardiac arrest following broncho-pneumonia from a streptococcal A infection, completly unrelated to mephedrone, google it! , i remember when the toxicity report came out, its really sad about the girl and her family but it just shows media whore-ism! all the papers were quick to shout ‘new killer drug’ but only the independant(i think) printed the real story after all the FACTS were established, the same thing happened with MDMA in the 90’s ,ecstasy (lol) the new killer drug!!!!
im off mephedrone now too, i think it has a great effect but its sooo moreish, lol i bought in bulk just to “sell on” and ended up doing it every day for nearly 3 months! lol i know idiot , but the dopamine reuptake effect changes the way your brain thinks, i was REWARDING myself, justifying it!?! , lol crazy to think of it now, also i was on the borderline thinking of the vasoconstriction it might have because my hands (knuckles mainly) looked reddish (not too bad just a tiny bit) , anyone whos been taking it for a while GO ON A SUNBED , i could see like loads of black capillaries all over my hands,feet and knees in the uv light , scary!
every batch ive had has been different too , i remember some of the first few i had 🙂 sooooo euphoric i felt dizzy hhhhmmmmmmmFebruary 4, 2010 at 2:24 am #1181941@xxxxdalyxxxx 371250 wrote:
hey guys, the 14yr girl that died from “mephedrone” actualy died from cardiac arrest following broncho-pneumonia from a streptococcal A infection, completly unrelated to mephedrone, google it! ,
have you got a link to a actual coroners report with this? all the news reports just say “cardiac arrest”.
Young people do die of complications caused infections like this, but there is unfortunately also the counter argument that the prevalent drugs culture of today may have encouraged the girl to take drugs despite being unwell.
I’ve been raving since the early 90s and I noticed especially in winter a lot of people ignored the signs of colds/flu etc and take more stimulants instead of letting their bodies recover. Indeed I fell into that trap myself. Of course very few people actually die (of course I didn’t) but they end up very ill for a long time and often create a burden to others what have to look after them (the NHS and their families) and this also causes a backlash. I certainly went through a phase of very poor physical and mental health in the early 1990s, and that was directly because of pills in the “good old days”.
Some Coroners do also have a habit of not explicitly saying that someone died because of their drugs use because they don’t want their family being dragged through the muck. I know this for fact as it happened to someone close to me many years ago, a young lady not unlike the one who died. that is all I will say as the local media were thankfully not as harsh on the family and didn’t delve to deeply so I won’t give any more details on that…but todays journalists much more cynical and ruthless and fight their corner well, they have the power however much you may disagree with them.
February 4, 2010 at 2:02 pm #1185831Hi there Worthing drug-scare teen died of natural causes (From The Argus)
and also read
Worthing girl Gabi Price ? Mum speaks out against false drug claims – Worthing Today
I can’t find the original story ATM but I will dig deeper after work, in the original report I read it said the toxicity report found no drugs in her system also the police issued an apology but still said meph was dangourous,
due to the high profile of this case and all the media interest I don’t think the report would of bent the truth for the familyFebruary 4, 2010 at 2:08 pm #1185833So as it stands 99.999% of people think meph killed her and is a killer drug, which is totaly untrue
February 4, 2010 at 2:16 pm #1181943@xxxxdalyxxxx 371284 wrote:
due to the high profile of this case and all the media interest I don’t think the report would of bent the truth for the family
Its not “bending the truth” but trying to interpret it in a different way. The nature of my current job means I see a lot of lists of causes of death, albeit at the opposite end of the age range.
People do not die of “drugs”, they die of medical conditions caused directly or indirectly by them. However someone with bronchitis or pneumonia usually feels ill for a a while before and after the worst of the symptoms.
Drugs, particularly stimulants, also clear out of the body fairly quickly so its not easy to get a clear cut verdict of death due to non-dependent drug use. with the person I know who died in similar circumstances they had been experimenting and exactly the same happened, coroner said “natural death” I’ve seen a few reports of heroin addicts who drop dead and coroner shows “natural causes” and no drug residue found, but its clear they had already damaged their bodies from the drugs use.
I think this girl was very unlucky indeed, and TBH might even have died anyway even if sober but the cops are right to still say there are dangers of mephedrone and people need to exercise common sense, if they are really ill its worth missing out on the party to keep the rest of their life…
Also the cops can’t just search up any group of peopels house on suspicion of drugs without having some evidence in the first place or they can get busted for breaching human rights laws.
February 4, 2010 at 2:20 pm #1181944@xxxxdalyxxxx 371285 wrote:
So as it stands 99.999% of people think meph killed her and is a killer drug, which is totaly untrue
I don’t think its a “killer” but the problem is it can make people quite ill and can affect mental and physical health, same as MDMA, amfet or anything else.. people on this forum have ended up in ambulances, been sectioned and all sorts, thankfully no ones died but they haven’t exactly had a enjoyable time..
February 8, 2010 at 10:03 pm #1182520@General Lighting 371287 wrote:
I don’t think its a “killer” but the problem is it can make people quite ill and can affect mental and physical health, same as MDMA, amfet or anything else.. people on this forum have ended up in ambulances, been sectioned and all sorts, thankfully no ones died but they haven’t exactly had a enjoyable time..
Think is though what people have to realise is because drone is so cheap and relatively easy to obtain people are doing it in very large amounts.
And it’s these people who are boshing 2 to 3 grams in one sitting and they wonder why it fucks them up. if they did the same with coke or old school mandy it would fuck them up just the same.
People are just greedy i suppose, i know i am. Luckily i fucked up on drone quite early on to know this is a rug to respect and not abuse!
Hopefully more people will realise this but i can’t see it happening in the near future tbh.:love:
February 8, 2010 at 10:35 pm #1181945@DJCliffy 371687 wrote:
And it’s these people who are boshing 2 to 3 grams in one sitting and they wonder why it fucks them up. if they did the same with coke or old school mandy it would fuck them up just the same.
thats exactly what people did with MDMA (I’ve had it confirmed by frontline NHS staff I happen to know) and is exactly why the feds/SOCA started busting dealers left right and centre.
February 8, 2010 at 10:50 pm #1182521@General Lighting 371693 wrote:
thats exactly what people did with MDMA (I’ve had it confirmed by frontline NHS staff I happen to know) and is exactly why the feds/SOCA started busting dealers left right and centre.
I guess folk never learn eh. it’s human nature to take things to excess :crazy_diz
February 9, 2010 at 9:57 pm #1185655its like anything take in moderation and you will have a good time and be fine , start ripping the piss out of it and it will rip your health to shreds commen sense really , but some people wont learn there is a severe amount of twats about who will abuse it so on there heads be it . lol stay safe kids
February 10, 2010 at 12:24 am #1181706Anonymoussome things are more fun in excess. seems that way at the time any how
February 10, 2010 at 1:50 am #1183629you’re not allowed to post links for mephe…
check the home page cough
February 10, 2010 at 1:53 am #1185580@p0ly 371868 wrote:
you’re not allowed to post links for mephe…
check the home page cough
that link went ages ago but it was amusing!
February 10, 2010 at 1:59 am #1183631it’s gone now? lol
February 10, 2010 at 2:04 am #1185581February 10, 2010 at 2:13 am #1183632you’re right
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February 10, 2010 at 12:40 pm #1182870@p0ly 371875 wrote:
you’re right
i did a deal with dr.B .. i subscribed as long as he took the methe advert off the home page :laugh_at: (joke he did it anyway .. but i did offer 😉 )
February 10, 2010 at 3:10 pm #1182522February 10, 2010 at 3:12 pm #1183633homepage drone link
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February 12, 2010 at 5:54 pm #1185583@joe2010 372260 wrote:
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no drug links allowd.
February 12, 2010 at 6:21 pm #1185185@joe2010 372260 wrote:
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yeah mate here:
http://www.dodgysiteyoushouldneverbuyanythingfromnevermindanythingyouwouldwanttoputupyournose.com
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