Mephedrone will become illegal in the Federal Republic of Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) on 2010-01-22.

http://www.buzer.de/gesetz/9164/index.htm

@p0ly 368268 wrote:

thought that was UK for a second phew

You say that like it would really make any difference to you.

it would make a difference

@Funnisam 368285 wrote:

This is why insufflating (snorting) is so much better 😉 1 gram up the hooter ahhhh yeah, other than the possibility of losing my nose septum :hopeless:

I have thought about snorting 4-mmc but got told that it hurts quite a lot, is this true?

@General Lighting 368302 wrote:

it does but no worse than the 2-C* substances IMO. it is a fairly corrosive chemical either way, slightly more so than dexamfetamine. I cannot unfortunately give any scientific details like pH etc as I don’t have the kit, its very difficult for British Asian blokes to obtain chemistry lab supplies these days without attracting unwanted attention..

(there must be one of you brainy people out there who can do a pH test on the stuff)

u can get PH testing kids from garden centres etc not sure if they would be that accurate though or have the correct range

i found the thread but the pics didn’t show and apparently they were waiting for the moderators to approve them. I can understand this as its verging on inciting manufacture or consumption or “glorifying drug use” which is a criminal offences in some jurisdictions (including Australia and some states of the USA!) or falls under terrorism law in other nations, so they do have to tread carefully these days.

I have just ordered some 4-mmc from a website

I have read so much diiferent info on this site that my head hurts

In the end though sod it, finding a site to buy the stuff from was very easy and they all state the same thing it the best you can get, well someone is telling porkies lol

So i took the plunge and went with one that looked ok they say it will come in very bright white crystal form? apparantly this is supposed to be free of impurities ect but I dont have a clue?

So i will just see what happens when I give it a go this weekend.

Wish I could get my hands on some more Puma’s then i wouldn’t need to try this crap lol

@General Lighting 368293 wrote:

it would be worrying if it were the UK as it means the bureaucrats have become way more ruthlessly efficient, as they are in countries like Germany and Singapore..

I was reading how the drugs advisory council are supposed to have started to review Mephedrone but with Proff Nutt being sacked and a few others quitting in protest this has been delayed.

Did also read Proff Nutt has set up a different drugs advisory group and got a few people from the one that normally advise the government to join it… Think it was on the BBC news

bombs of about 100 – 200mg.. (it can be snorted but it fucking canes!)

oh and the crystal is pure for defo, but leaves you wanting more and hits you harder but lasts less………………. still wicked though and 1 g more than enough for a good 10 hour session.

@tlegato 368497 wrote:

I heard that meow was not illegal in the UK yet as it was severely knocking the coke scene and dealers – hence criminal activity was reduced massively and the whole knock on effect was less crime.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…….

I wouldn’t believe that for a second. Law is slowwwwww in England

Mate

I’ve been doing enough things for over a decade and have most certainly done top notch, pure MDMA plenty of times

and I can also vouch that meow, nor any of ecstasy tablet could touch it

If only mandy was back in town…………………..

the good old times.

And I think Meow is completely different in many different scopes to MDMA. Entirely different and in contradiction to what i’ve written, a complete head fuck if you use it and abuse it too much.

😉

@tlegato 368497 wrote:

I heard that meow was not illegal in the UK yet as it was severely knocking the coke scene and dealers – hence criminal activity was reduced massively and the whole knock on effect was less crime.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…….

its possible some more liberal/progressive minds in Whitehall did put forward this viewpoint (there are actually a fair few, I was a Civil Servant myself for several years and was surprised at how “right-on” Whitehall was).

Ok there might be less individual offences of smaller posession/posession with intent to supply coming through to the Police (which is good for them), but drugs policy in this country is decided by both the Home Office and Department of Health (NHS).

However what has happened is due to some users greed, wilful ignorance and stupidity, the effects to the NHS and its counterparts outside UK and in the wider EU (treatment of overdose victims and mental health problems etc) have wiped out any gain caused by a drop in criminality, so when both criminal justice and healthcare views are considered 4-MMC is still viewed to be a “harmful” drug.