Smoking something that is in salt form is rarely a good idea, and the freebase of 4-MMC is an unstable alkaline oil so that route would be futile to pursue too. Salts have higher molecular weights than their freebases and so need higher temperatures to vaporise, these higher temps mean the chemical is likely to break down and render it inactive. In summary; there’s a reason you don’t see this done, it doesn’t really work.

i wouldn’t bother

@kasybobo 367342 wrote:

I am from Scotland, and my house was raided by police last week, the only substances i ever use or have are mephedrone, mdpv and methylone. We were awakened by 15 officers and 2 sniffer dogs at 1am, we were handcuffed while they searched our house. They took the bags of legal highs and we were cautioned and charged, until drugs testing is complete.
Apparently sellers are cutting with kettamine and E’s so on testing anyone could fail, please everyone make sure you are getting what you think you are getting. The heat is definitely on !!

Scots law is different to the English in terms of how they handle these things. They can pick you up, raid you, charge you and then have a year and a day to actually take you to court. Its possible they cautioned and charged him with everything they thought might be relevant and then let them go till the evidence is in.

^^ Your thanks might be a bit too hasty. We are nothing more than simple farm folk round here

@MadMax69 367829 wrote:

Hi all… ive been doing e and coke for years well had a break 4 a bit!(about 1 year)miss my honeymoon period! anyway………
really wanting to try this mephedrone caper, sounds braw!!! but theres a few things need to clear up first 1,whats better (strenth) crystal or powder?
2,snorting or oral
3,seen few good looking sites but WHICH one, so so many!

(know ur not aloud links) could some1 please pm a decent try’d and tested site thx!
ohh… and happy new year every1 hope it was a good 1!!!!

@DJCliffy 367790 wrote:

^^ Your thanks might be a bit too hasty. We are nothing more than simple farm folk round here

^^^:hopeless:

@JulesDogg 367858 wrote:

I necked about 650mg of 4-MMC the other night. It was great fun but my tongue and the inside of my cheeks were raw the next day and took several days to repair.

Are other users experiencing this? Is there anything to do that might prevent or reduce it? Why does this happen?

chew more thoroughly? reminds me of mandy

@JulesDogg 367860 wrote:

Sorry dude, ‘Chew more thoroughly’ ???? I don’t follow.

I did about 3 bombs of the stuff, had lots of drinks and a few joints. Really enjoyed the 4-MMC but my mouth was fucked the next day and I can’t fathom why it happened.

probably gurning/chewing and messing around orally speaking for the night.

@TheLostOne 367862 wrote:

If it is from Gurning, then magnesium helps big time. Well it works with MDMA, so it probably works with Drone. Get it places like holland and Barrett.

Cheers LostOne, is it best taken before, during or after the 4-mmc and how much should I take? Thanks

@starlaugh 367864 wrote:

Aint bothering with the stuff too dodgy, lots more interesting chems available for the same price!

Nice one Star, any recommendations you can make?

LostOne, thanks for the advice 🙂

@starlaugh 367888 wrote:

I prefer my trippy stuff to be fair so its not a fair comparison! But yeah you can do better! raaa

I like trippy stuff too but in a party situation I like the mandyness of 4-mmc. For ages now i have found it so hard to find reliable clean mandy, 4-mmc is a reasonable alternative but the hit could be better. My all time fave is 2C-B, which is trippy but not full on like acid or shrooms.

Can you recommend any chems that whilst trippy are also euphoric, give energy and make party people connect better? Cheers

Dont take mephedrone.
it is that simple.
when you have mephedrone, you will start taking it, and want more and more because the high is better than coke, mdma and speed, combined
after 2 months of taking it, and speaking from experience and possibly addiction, i can testify that
A: It fucks your serotinin.dopamine balance
B. have you heard reports of people going “psycotic” on mephedrone? im sure you may have seen it somewhere printed on a drug forum that, this shit can cause phsycosis, and it 100% did to me, and im fucked, even though im not taking it,

Do not take mephedrone, its an extremely dodgy thing to tamper with, and the sooner its made illegal the better, cos it
A” totally fucks your circulation, to the point where your blood vessels will contract and youl nearly become unconscious, or die, this is what “purple knees” and other colour changes in yur body become apparent, cos it fucks you with VASCOCONSTRICULATION.
B” ive took this drug on and off for 6 months before i got busted, before taking mephedrone, ive never been detained. after a few months, it did make me fuckin crazy to be frank and now im going to have to deal with it.
Also, if you insist on buying it, dont buy it from online dealers. They are screwing you, it costs $2800 per KG , ask yourselfe, why such a drug that has the same effects as coke, wihch is over $50.000k is so cheap, because its an extremely dodgy substance, not only for your body, but for your mind.
if you take mephedrone more than 2 days a week for some time, your going to get addicted to it, cos the high is so “morish” but i advice people not to touch it, cos it might cause you to go crazy.

is 2C-E your favoruite 2c psy?

I reckon meph will go class C or B. it won’t be made class A as it this will result in a global resurgence in MDMA production and use.

It might be deliberately kept a low classification out of pragmatism as whilst irregular use isn’t bad its side effects are enough to either eventually scare fiends into giving up all drugs or kill them outright, and unlike K heads what need long term medical treatment dead people cease to be a burden to the NHS once the inquest is done.

its precisely the sort of drug a libertarian capitalist government might even want to decriminalise/legalise as it its diminishing returns and side effects (whilst not being totally bad) make people party less regularly and stay in work/education.

IMO the only reason there aren’t a 70 page thread about MDMA horror stories on this site is that people didn’t get broadband until the early/mid 2000s, by which time either the feds worldwide had successfully reduced most of the supply of MDMA or demand had simply exceeded it (a combination of both) – also excessive MDMA use also tends to cause mental health problems before physical ones.