@MisterDuck 363883 wrote:

Yeah, a fourteen year old overdosing is “natural selection”.

Hmmm, you’d have to have given them the equivalent of “the green cross code” first tho’. We haven’t banned cars, yet

Flippant remark but education helps A LOT : )

@Psil 363872 wrote:

Fuck sake. Do people not even fucking do a quick wikipedia search before they write an article?

Seriously it’s getting to the stage now where I just think let these people have all the drugs they want. If they OD, that’s fucking natural selection at work.

Just agreeing with the others really, she was just a kid, not an adult. Most if not all kids take risks that could put their life at risk and its up to society to try and protect them. Or at least that’s what springs to mind.

Shall we run a book on how long it will take to made illegal! I’ll go with the generals theory of just before the election. ANyway so now what do we start filling our boots to stock pile this stuff or wait for it’s replacement.

If it becomes illegal it won’t even be worth doing. It might start off as 90%+ pure but soon it’ll start drifting towards the 50’s then lower!!

As for the scrotum ripping session the guy on drone had…. well i’m a bit dubious as to whether it was drone as crazy shit like that sounds more like PCP or something. Scare mongoring plain and simple thats all that article was…… probably written by the desendents of the cold war scare mongerers who would tell you communists eat children or something!!

@LFB2009 364001 wrote:

Shall we run a book on how long it will take to made illegal! I’ll go with the generals theory of just before the election. ANyway so now what do we start filling our boots to stock pile this stuff or wait for it’s replacement.

even if you stockpile it you’ve then got a stash full of class B/C substance what will make you paranoid of any unplanned visit from the local constabulary so you might as well have just got dexamfetamine instead.

I think scrotum boy probably was taking drone, there is some sort of overdose reaction with amfetamine type stimulants what causes a rebound reaction with histamine which leads to this sort of intense inflammation. but it could just as easily happen with a overdose of dexamfetamine or any other similar substance.

Yeah i didn’t think about the fact that the stock pilling of a soon to be illegal drug could have dire circumstances later!! SO thanks for reminding me about that slight oversight on my part!

And yes this is heading into brasseye territory (shame they’ve gone). As a follow on from peadogedon they could do droneagedon!! If mass histerior about peadogedon hadn’t forced them off air!!

@General Lighting 363861 wrote:

This is a longer and more detailed report from the North

Police warn over mephedrone dangers after user ‘ripped off scrotum’ » Communities » 24dash.com

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fooking hell!! poor geeza

I am taking care to look sideways like Lord Horatio Nelson whenever I take a sip of my beer, as I really don’t want to spit a mouthful of Old Speckled Hen across the keyboard and screen of my new Samsung N140 netbook each time I look at the latest headlines.

where the fuck is county durham anyway? Last time I asked for a map of stuff north of Kings Lynn (see, Ihave expanded my horizons) I got sent a duff old one with the Manchester/Lancashire borders all wrong and I just ended up more confused than when I started…

I agree with what TG says about alcohol but again its all about self control and impulse control.. for instance i will retire to bed soon and the 8 cans of Abbot Ale I also bought will stay where they are until tomorrow… (IMO Greene King ought to pay for some of our hosting fees for all the publicity I’ve given them :laugh_at:)

@General Lighting 364021 wrote:

I am taking care to look sideways like Lord Horatio Nelson whenever I take a sip of my beer, as I really don’t want to spit a mouthful of Old Speckled Hen across the keyboard and screen of my new Samsung N140 netbook

I’m trying not to spit out the cider I decided to try out tonight, it tastes of granny piss :laugh_at::laugh_at:

Mr. Whiteheads Cider Company in Hampshire

and defo with the self controll thing – thats what I meant sbout the problems being caused by too early re-dosing or taking too much of a ‘good’ thing in one night…… :you_crazy:you_crazy

@Buzz 364022 wrote:

if someone chooses to OD then its their fault and their fault alone.

I think with youngsters – they who are experimenting or ‘given’ stuff by older friends (who have higher tolerances / more experience) its a totally different story and very sad,
and most Od’s are accidental – (like that 14 yr old)
and what with some with underlying health issues – it could be anyone – so I dont totally agree with this statement – as in fault – responsibilty – maybe but not fault (maybe I’m being picky with semantics)

where as peeps I personally know who had Od’d on the brown – they usually know what they are risking their mortality

@Tank Girl 364030 wrote:

responsibilty – maybe but not fault (maybe I’m being picky with semantics)

@Buzz 364033 wrote:

then do you really think that it isnt their responsibility when they OD?

read what I said –

responsibity is what I said, and yes if you take a substance you are responsible –

but a 14 yr old kid being given K and methadrone?? mmmm……

I recently heard about a girl who took what she thought was coke – it was crushed up subutex – she got ill – police were called – the guy got put inside for attempted date rape as he’d lied to her about what it was – she was responsible for taking the substance but the court felt otherwise with the ‘pretence’ of what she was lead to believe – (she was fucking stupid in my eyes – but people are people :you_crazy )

and I am all for education and harm minimisation – its what the main content of my posts on the drugs forum say……..

@Rirts 364040 wrote:

Could someone pm the link as to where i could buy some.. pretty please :love:

Seriously?

http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/drugs/39752-selling-drugs-party-vibe.html

p.s

Max dont you fucking dare. :love:

i wouldnt dream of it

@MisterDuck 364049 wrote:

and therefore on that basis, the lack of education is the fault of the state and society. it is not the fault of the 14 year old girl that drugs education is not logical or effectiviely taught within schools

and therefore it’s not her fault

so you’ve gone back on yourself.

the idea that people can blame sole responsibility for things such as this without looking at individual personal, cultural and structural circumstances is absurd. it’s the same logic that staunch tories use when they say “everybody has the same start in life, its all down to motivation”

its fucking bullshit, tbh

anyone who thinks that overdosing is solely the fault of the FOURTEEN year old is clearly a fucking thick narrow-minded idiot

You misunderstood my point, I didn’t mean that its solely the girls fault, just that if she chose not to research the substances before taking them then that clearly shows lack of education on them. Not that we know, but if she had chosen to research them further then maybe she would have stayed away from mixing them, as K + mephedrone dramatically increases blood pressure.

I was not referring to education in the sense of what the state provides in schools, just certain peoples lack of caring for what they put into their bodies and the general “who cares what it is as long as it gets me fucked” attitude seen from a lot of people.

That being said, its still just a fucking terrible shame for the girl, her friends and her family.