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  • #1042605
    Techno Viking
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      I’m considering the legality of this request but I seem to remember this was a thread by a troll and hardly seems very important…

      From: Rintelen@aol.com [mailto:Rintelen@aol.com]
      Sent: 11 October 2007 23:39
      To: submit@partyvibe.com
      Subject: LEGAL MATTER – PLEASE REMOVE DEFAMATORY MATERIAL

      Dear Sir

      There is a reference to Gail McKenna and Kathy LLoyd on your website at http://www.partyvibe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=18603

      Please remove it and all references to Gail on your website. This is defamatory material, and it should be removed.

      I refer you to the following regarding this matter so please make sure to remove it as soon as possible.

      Thank you for your kind co-operation.

      John Clarkson

      Please note:-

      Website Hosts liable for defamatory material.Website hosts may be liable for defamatory material created by someone else but which they host. However, there are special defences available to hosts under the Defamation Act 1996 and the E-commerce Regulations.

      Under the Defamation Act 1996, a website host will have a defence to a claim for libel if he can show that (i) he was not the author, editor or publisher of the statement complained of, (ii) he took reasonable care in relation to its publication, and (iii) he did not know and had no reason to believe that what he did caused or contributed to the publication of the defamatory statement. The defence under the E-commerce Regulations is expressed in similar terms.

      In order to have the best chance of taking advantage of these defences, a host should not as a matter of course monitor/edit the content of websites that it hosts; however as soon as the host becomes aware of potentially defamatory content, that content should be quickly removed.

      http://www.website-law.co.uk/resources/website-libel.html

      #1121695
      Techno Viking
      Participant

        I’ve removed the offending thread.

        #1142474
        Techno Viking
        Participant

          I’ve removed the offending thread.

          #1121696
          Techno Viking
          Participant

            I’m suspicious about what’s going on here because the author of the offending message was on the site yesterday despite it being their only post months ago and seems to also use AOL for an ISP…

            #1142475
            Techno Viking
            Participant

              I’m suspicious about what’s going on here because the author of the offending message was on the site yesterday despite it being their only post months ago and seems to also use AOL for an ISP…

              #1121697
              Techno Viking
              Participant

                The email I received came from this person:

                Posted On: October 23, 2005 06:23:40 PM

                Name: John Clarkson BA(Hons) MSc
                Email: rintelen@aol.com
                From: Camborne, Cornwall
                Homepage: http://www.pluschow.iofm.net/
                Comments: Nice website. Lots of interesting things about history. I’ll visit again. I hope you’ll add a link to my website above please?

                #1142476
                Techno Viking
                Participant

                  The email I received came from this person:

                  Posted On: October 23, 2005 06:23:40 PM

                  Name: John Clarkson BA(Hons) MSc
                  Email: rintelen@aol.com
                  From: Camborne, Cornwall
                  Homepage: http://www.pluschow.iofm.net/
                  Comments: Nice website. Lots of interesting things about history. I’ll visit again. I hope you’ll add a link to my website above please?

                  #1121698
                  Techno Viking
                  Participant

                    I wish the crew of the USS Enterprize and all American and British Forces good luck in the fight against the evil that has struck the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. May God preserve your lives and help you to destroy the guilty. Never has so much been owed to few by so many.

                    John M Clarkson
                    Camborne, Cornwall, England – 17:14:24 9/21/2001
                    Rintelen@AOL.com

                    http://www.sizor.com/cvn65_bb/viewtopic.php?t=16

                    #1142477
                    Techno Viking
                    Participant

                      I wish the crew of the USS Enterprize and all American and British Forces good luck in the fight against the evil that has struck the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. May God preserve your lives and help you to destroy the guilty. Never has so much been owed to few by so many.

                      John M Clarkson
                      Camborne, Cornwall, England – 17:14:24 9/21/2001
                      Rintelen@AOL.com

                      http://www.sizor.com/cvn65_bb/viewtopic.php?t=16

                      #1121699
                      Techno Viking
                      Participant

                        John Clarkson

                        IP: 195.93.21.101

                        Oct 2nd, 2005 – 5:09 PM Re: The Burial

                        Okay, just forgetting the maps for a moment I want to look at the motivations behind Kidd burying his treasure. I’ll assume we’re talking about treasure before or after the Quedah Merchant while he’s in the Indian Ocean.

                        1. As you state there are no banks. Thus he has two options: secret burial or take it with him. His crew is always potentially mutinous, like any crew! Thus he doesn’t trust them, either to bury it or keep it.

                        2. Let’s assume a few of his top men decide to bury the treasure. If this is the case can he trust them in the future?

                        3. How much did the treasure weigh (assuming its just coins in a sailor’s chest)? How far did they carry it? Was it up hill or down hill? What type of terrain? These are basic but important questions we need to ask if your island is the right one.

                        3. Did he, R L Stevenson style, kill those who buried it for him?

                        4. During the burial the rest of the crew have to be suitably distracted not to notice what is going on. Drink and women, perhaps local natives could be used for this purpose. How does he achieve this on such a small island?

                        5. Then if all is successful at a later date he has to trust another crew to help him recover the money.

                        Okay, putting myself in Captain Kidd’s shoes, I’m not convinced that he would have buried the treasure at any time unless he was under great stress – to hide evidence from the authorities – or from another pirate who knew what he had done.

                        But I’m interested in your answers to the other questions assuming your maps are right?

                        I’m still interested in this idea and would help to raise some funds for an expedition if you can convince me!

                        #1142478
                        Techno Viking
                        Participant

                          John Clarkson

                          IP: 195.93.21.101

                          Oct 2nd, 2005 – 5:09 PM Re: The Burial

                          Okay, just forgetting the maps for a moment I want to look at the motivations behind Kidd burying his treasure. I’ll assume we’re talking about treasure before or after the Quedah Merchant while he’s in the Indian Ocean.

                          1. As you state there are no banks. Thus he has two options: secret burial or take it with him. His crew is always potentially mutinous, like any crew! Thus he doesn’t trust them, either to bury it or keep it.

                          2. Let’s assume a few of his top men decide to bury the treasure. If this is the case can he trust them in the future?

                          3. How much did the treasure weigh (assuming its just coins in a sailor’s chest)? How far did they carry it? Was it up hill or down hill? What type of terrain? These are basic but important questions we need to ask if your island is the right one.

                          3. Did he, R L Stevenson style, kill those who buried it for him?

                          4. During the burial the rest of the crew have to be suitably distracted not to notice what is going on. Drink and women, perhaps local natives could be used for this purpose. How does he achieve this on such a small island?

                          5. Then if all is successful at a later date he has to trust another crew to help him recover the money.

                          Okay, putting myself in Captain Kidd’s shoes, I’m not convinced that he would have buried the treasure at any time unless he was under great stress – to hide evidence from the authorities – or from another pirate who knew what he had done.

                          But I’m interested in your answers to the other questions assuming your maps are right?

                          I’m still interested in this idea and would help to raise some funds for an expedition if you can convince me!

                          #1121700
                          Techno Viking
                          Participant

                            I don’t see this person having any legal credentials…

                            #1142479
                            Techno Viking
                            Participant

                              I don’t see this person having any legal credentials…

                              #1121701
                              Techno Viking
                              Participant

                                Bingo! And his ip is the same as the author of the post…

                                195.93.21.39

                                #1142480
                                Techno Viking
                                Participant

                                  Bingo! And his ip is the same as the author of the post…

                                  195.93.21.39

                                  #1121702
                                  Techno Viking
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                                    #1142481
                                    Techno Viking
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                                      #1121708
                                      Raj
                                      Participant

                                        :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

                                        this guy needs a life :laugh_at::laugh_at:

                                        #1142487
                                        Raj
                                        Participant

                                          :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

                                          this guy needs a life :laugh_at::laugh_at:

                                          #1121704
                                          General Lighting
                                          Moderator

                                            what is it about AOL that seems to attract the tinfoil helmet brigade? :you_crazy

                                            #1142483
                                            General Lighting
                                            Moderator

                                              what is it about AOL that seems to attract the tinfoil helmet brigade? :you_crazy

                                              #1121712
                                              Digital-A
                                              Participant

                                                I would wear a tinfoil hat if it didnt attract weird messages from the sky!

                                                #1142491
                                                Digital-A
                                                Participant

                                                  I would wear a tinfoil hat if it didnt attract weird messages from the sky!

                                                  #1121705
                                                  BioTech
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                                                    General Lighting wrote:
                                                    what is it about AOL that seems to attract the tinfoil helmet brigade? :you_crazy

                                                    You’d think it would scare them away considering how intrusive it is.

                                                    #1142484
                                                    BioTech
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                                                      General Lighting wrote:
                                                      what is it about AOL that seems to attract the tinfoil helmet brigade? :you_crazy

                                                      You’d think it would scare them away considering how intrusive it is.

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