maybe a trial run of this? i would like to see it at work…
[or a survey into interest in running this service?]

:alien_abd

yeah, I think this is what we are getting at rather than trying to get an actual feed that could be received on the conventional idiot box..

after all Rapture tried it and swiftly ran out of cash (they also lost their cheap facilities as Anglia who provided them out of goodwill were downsized – Trisha did a runner and HTV wrestled away the wildlife programmes..)

A video stream of me on the decks 5 days a week for 8 hours a day – for which i would be paid 100K p/a :bigsmile:

seriously though i think an underground music channel would be fat but if it was workable do you not think it would have happened already?

exactly. The costs of access to the network are were it all mounts up and people need to recover them by advertising

Conventional broadcast networks are fucking horrendously expensive as everyone from the telcos to a myriad of private companies wants to make money along the way.

Until recently some of the bigger companies had spare cash and would out of goodwill help along a few “yoof TV” style ventures but its all about asset stripping and increasing profit now.

I saw some old boy try to set up a local TV station and lose his entire pension, a second mortgage and get disqualified from being a company director because of this failed venture. He was a complete idiot who thought he could “fight it out in the free market” using 1950s broadcast management tactics in the 1990s – but it still shows the risk involved

Internet streaming is far cheaper and at present freer (although by the time it becomes popular to the masses I’m sure the big companies and Ofcom are going to step in) so its best people get their stuff in now..

Really glad I found this thread, as there might be some people here who’d be interested in being involved in a project I’m busy with. I am the manager of a new television channel devoted to the DJ/Dance industry. I am currently working to develop the channel’s content offerings and planning on launching the channel within the next 6 months.

If there is anyone interested in being involved in this project or would like more info, you can contact me via e-mail at

zulpha@chaptersmusic.com

If you have some time check out this COOL website:
http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=AYSEARG&key=BYV
Rest-assured this is great entertainment!!!
Also, check out the following website I came across:
http://www.asian-man.com/asianmannew/main.htm
It will knock your socks off!

You could look into doing it as an online multicast as well as sat (still don’t have sky, and never will owing to moral objection to giving it’s owner as much as a brass farthing). Sat is useful for the pre made user base it brings tho’.

There are other sat co’s than BSkyB too (eutelsat, canal etc etc), and I can point a sat at those easy enough (this is purely selfish speculation on my part though, as I’d want to be able to tune in…:weee:)

You prob want it a bit broader than just the 4 on the floor subtypes tho’. Make it underground dance full stop (then you can include DnB, Jungle, Hip hop, Trip hop, etc etc. Good Hip Hop and whatnot are as underexposed as good 4/4 dance – would maybe help bring together the fractured elements of the scene – the U in PLUR:groucho::love:). Some good balanced journalism would be nice too

Just read the other posts through, and they are saying much the same (and Level-1 are defo people to talk to about it, as they are doing it from the point of view of internet multicast. Sound bunch too, and doing it for very much the right reasons – ie a love of the music and scene)

To add to the other comments – you prob want to start by multicast, and build a viewer base before taking the idea to any networks (if you do that at all – “I’ve got”, and “will do” are far better selling points than “I will have” and “could do”…:wink:). Networks are notoriously tough for show pitches (which are hour long slots weekly at the most usually). You are proposing an entire channel, which will take an entire bandwidth mux slot (which costs at least the ransom of all elderly members of your family, and all parts of your body for selling to science:wink:. And that’s for a cheap one at the rough end of hotbirds footprint…)

For sat therefore, you’d maybe be better working out a show pitch instead of trying for an entire channel (say weekly for 2 hrs or so). Aunty Beeb is also a good place to consider a pitch – say what you like about TV licenses, but they do give aunty Beeb the ability to run things other networks would consider “not commercially viable” – commercial viability these days seeming to consist of either pointless titillation (if ur going to do porn, do porn FFS – hairy bobbin man a**e turns no-one on:rant:), or the morbid side of forensic investigation (an alien visiting earth, and watching TV for cultural insight into humanity, could be forgiven for thinking we’re all sociopathic, homocidal Binobo monkeys from the current TV. Or pyromaniacs with an any vehicle fast crash fetish. Or they could tune in to a re-run of murder she wrote, in which case I doubt we’d see them for their retreating warp signature:hopeless:…:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:)

Online multicast is the way to go IMO. Costs are less. You could do it all yourself if need be (fairly expensive, but no need for ransom or medical science). Online is the real cutting edge of media nowadays anyway, and best of all – No need to pitch to a group of people who aren’t terribly interested, and don’t understand in the first place, and who will, if you are successful, insist in putting their ideas into your one – assimilation being inevitable, and resistance futile (Xenobiologist who trys to understand Alien cultures by shagging them???!!! – from a popular SciFi show. The same one in which the author admits to killing off the “Top Gun” type character at the first opportunity, because he hated the character, and only put him in cos the network insisted – makes you wonder what a writer is for…:you_crazy)…

Don’t want to get saddled with having to expose ravers for the drug crazed sensation seekers we all are :weee::weee::wink: every 2 days either – an easy enough task, and filmed in a few days, but rather unnecessary pointing out the blindingly obvious. This will undoubtedly happen with a network tho’ – remember, the only news that sells in their world is controversy or titillation. The marvel of existence distilled to a huge argument in a gossip column about who is shagging who, and why :crazy_diz:crazy_diz:crazy_diz. Oh, and with a 5 second attention span cut rate too (cos we’re all goldfish really). What’s that I hear uncle Bill shouting from beyond the grave…“Demons set loose on the earth to lower the standards…” Hmmmm. Still has a point…

This has turned into another long ramble…:idea: with added tangential offshoots…:idea:, and some general soap box nonsense…Seems to be a feature today…Sorry. Hopefully it is mostly on topic (does seem so to me, but I wrote it, and am not totally sure…) If not, my apologies for the off topic bits too.

I will stop now, but will just add that it is an excellent idea, and if you get it going, I will be tuning in somehow (even if the black hat and some fast learning is required to get a feed from the evil empire somehow…:wink:). Any good TV and good music gets my vote. And if I can help any way, I am happy to do so…raaaraaa

PLUR

What is she saying?

Oh yer, Dance Music TV – been done: Dance Energy on BBC2, remember??!! MC Normskiii lololol. It was ok yeah, but l get the feeling raving is a participation event. Mind you l think the same about football, but raving is even more deeper in ya brain l guess, l’m not an expert. TV Channels are ok for getting you into the mood for going out or just checking what’s hot in the charts.

I think the Criminal Justice Act put paid to Normski’s aspirations, and he ended up going out with Janet Street Porter. Nobody wants to encourage the druggies anymore so there won’t be a raving channel on TV, unless it watered-down p*ss like Art-core Intelligent DnB or whatever you call it these days, and documentaries about how some graffiti artist is putting a little something back into his neighbourhood by befouling a perfectly good wall. Actually graffiti is alright sometimes, you know l’m joking a lot of the time don’t ya?!

Sounds good to me. Would be rete hard to do tho.

(This post not quite as detailed as the other ones but thats coz I’m knackered:wink:)