I think our scene is going totally pearshaped

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November 17, 2007 at 9:07 pm #1124807
General Lighting
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I use DSI occasionally and have got friends who go legal partying still and TBH I think even a flawed free party is still way better than many legal parties – they are certainly better than the big commercial raves like HTID and raverbaby

when I look on DSI there are the same threads about problems with scallies, gangs and the same racial tension what i used to read about in Blaze/Eternity in 1992/3 :hopeless:

Some of my mates went to Fabric a few weeks ago and I heard of as many security incidents (including serious violence) as the worst London squat party – IMO thats unacceptable considering people have to pay stacks of cash to get into these things!
November 17, 2007 at 9:07 pm #1145732
General Lighting
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I use DSI occasionally and have got friends who go legal partying still and TBH I think even a flawed free party is still way better than many legal parties – they are certainly better than the big commercial raves like HTID and raverbaby

when I look on DSI there are the same threads about problems with scallies, gangs and the same racial tension what i used to read about in Blaze/Eternity in 1992/3 :hopeless:

Some of my mates went to Fabric a few weeks ago and I heard of as many security incidents (including serious violence) as the worst London squat party – IMO thats unacceptable considering people have to pay stacks of cash to get into these things!
November 18, 2007 at 12:20 am #1124840
Tank Girl
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HemelRaver wrote:

So thanks everybody and i would very much like to meet you all at a rave one day and get munted with ya!!:love:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl
November 18, 2007 at 12:20 am #1145766
Tank Girl
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HemelRaver wrote:

So thanks everybody and i would very much like to meet you all at a rave one day and get munted with ya!!:love:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl
November 18, 2007 at 11:32 am #1124832
mudstomper
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Tank Girl wrote:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

Well up for meeting up, if anyone’s up for a private at NYE, gimme a mail, GL will tell you it’s a safe place :love:
November 18, 2007 at 11:32 am #1145758
mudstomper
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Tank Girl wrote:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

Well up for meeting up, if anyone’s up for a private at NYE, gimme a mail, GL will tell you it’s a safe place :love:
November 19, 2007 at 4:34 pm #1124852
GiantMidget
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Tank Girl wrote:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

Yeah i’m all over that so heres hoping it does! 😉
November 19, 2007 at 4:34 pm #1145777
GiantMidget
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Tank Girl wrote:

hopefully you’ll / and we will get the chance to meet up if the PV party can be organised :bounce_fl :bounce_fl :bounce_fl

Yeah i’m all over that so heres hoping it does! 😉
November 21, 2007 at 6:12 pm #1124820
binge
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Yep. I’ve knocked it on the head for now. Went to the Halloween party for a bit in the morn and realised that it was a 9 year anniversary of me partying. Its a shame as a few at the start of the year were really positive, but I’m just fed up of twats making the same mistakes over and over. Plus a lot of my friends are getting horribly fucked up on K, and I just can’t watch everyone throw their lives away……..

Thats why I’m going to France for a ski season, then hopefully move to London or back to Brighton.

I think things could get better eventually, but I’m not that fussed anymore- there’s loads of cool stuff to do out there, and I’m going to find it. Some friends have got into running spaces at smaller festivals- we’re hopefully going to be at Dragon Festival next year, and this is a really fun thing to do, as well as being productive.

Oh well. Things change, was good while it lasted!!!
November 21, 2007 at 6:12 pm #1145745
binge
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Yep. I’ve knocked it on the head for now. Went to the Halloween party for a bit in the morn and realised that it was a 9 year anniversary of me partying. Its a shame as a few at the start of the year were really positive, but I’m just fed up of twats making the same mistakes over and over. Plus a lot of my friends are getting horribly fucked up on K, and I just can’t watch everyone throw their lives away……..

Thats why I’m going to France for a ski season, then hopefully move to London or back to Brighton.

I think things could get better eventually, but I’m not that fussed anymore- there’s loads of cool stuff to do out there, and I’m going to find it. Some friends have got into running spaces at smaller festivals- we’re hopefully going to be at Dragon Festival next year, and this is a really fun thing to do, as well as being productive.

Oh well. Things change, was good while it lasted!!!
November 22, 2007 at 1:23 pm #1124831
elretardo87
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I’m a bit biased but I think we’re having a good year up here. The two spots everyone used to cane are no longer used so thats put the lazy people off doing parties.

Last year there was a lot of stuff with venues getting rinsed by other rigs the weekend after someone else found it and did a party there, then there was a load of politics. Now I’m happy with the way things are going, we had some wicked parties, with a huge turnout at a few and little or no violence/ muggings.

There have been a few crap parties but I’ve not been there so I don’t mind.
November 22, 2007 at 1:23 pm #1145757
elretardo87
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I’m a bit biased but I think we’re having a good year up here. The two spots everyone used to cane are no longer used so thats put the lazy people off doing parties.

Last year there was a lot of stuff with venues getting rinsed by other rigs the weekend after someone else found it and did a party there, then there was a load of politics. Now I’m happy with the way things are going, we had some wicked parties, with a huge turnout at a few and little or no violence/ muggings.

There have been a few crap parties but I’ve not been there so I don’t mind.
December 4, 2007 at 11:47 pm #1124842
MisterDuck
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everythin seems safe as fuck up north. maybe you should all come up ‘ere 😉
December 4, 2007 at 11:47 pm #1145768
MisterDuck
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everythin seems safe as fuck up north. maybe you should all come up ‘ere 😉
December 4, 2007 at 11:50 pm #1124823
globalloon
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boothy wrote:

everythin seems safe as fuck up north. maybe you should all come up ‘ere 😉

i think it’s still very good and hassle free in lots of places, with lots of crews. our lot have gone indoors for winter. last weekend was wild

next weekend we’re spoilt for choice
December 4, 2007 at 11:50 pm #1145748
globalloon
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boothy wrote:

everythin seems safe as fuck up north. maybe you should all come up ‘ere 😉

i think it’s still very good and hassle free in lots of places, with lots of crews. our lot have gone indoors for winter. last weekend was wild

next weekend we’re spoilt for choice
December 4, 2007 at 11:54 pm #1124843
MisterDuck
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globalloon wrote:

i think it’s still very good and hassle free in lots of places, with lots of crews. our lot have gone indoors for winter. last weekend was wild

next weekend we’re spoilt for choice

nice one. maybe east anglia are just goin through a rocky patch… didnt london have a shit few years then bounced back or something?
December 4, 2007 at 11:54 pm #1145769
MisterDuck
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globalloon wrote:

i think it’s still very good and hassle free in lots of places, with lots of crews. our lot have gone indoors for winter. last weekend was wild

next weekend we’re spoilt for choice

nice one. maybe east anglia are just goin through a rocky patch… didnt london have a shit few years then bounced back or something?
December 5, 2007 at 12:02 am #1124824
globalloon
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boothy wrote:

nice one. maybe east anglia are just goin through a rocky patch… didnt london have a shit few years then bounced back or something?

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community
December 5, 2007 at 12:02 am #1145749
globalloon
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boothy wrote:

nice one. maybe east anglia are just goin through a rocky patch… didnt london have a shit few years then bounced back or something?

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community
December 5, 2007 at 12:05 am #1124844
MisterDuck
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globalloon wrote:

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community

i’d definately agree with that. thats why workin class comunity always been so strong innit. i watched a documentary on how exodus formed the other day, i guess thats a good example
December 5, 2007 at 12:05 am #1145770
MisterDuck
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globalloon wrote:

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community

i’d definately agree with that. thats why workin class comunity always been so strong innit. i watched a documentary on how exodus formed the other day, i guess thats a good example
December 5, 2007 at 12:26 am #1124808
General Lighting
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globalloon wrote:

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community

these days its also not a “chance” of a run in with the police, but a determined effort to clamp down using 3 police forces, other public sector agencies and being supported by the rest of society. There is actually a big history of social activism and popular stubbornness in East Anglia, particularly socialism and labour activism but one equally matched by the authorities and others who disagree with activism, plus a massive backlash from the Essex area (the wider society there, not just the cops).

The cops investigating some of the raves down here and their funding sources are the same team from the Ipswich murder cases.

boothy wrote:

i’d definately agree with that. thats why workin class comunity always been so strong innit. i watched a documentary on how exodus formed the other day, i guess thats a good example

Exodus were/are from the “crossover” area between East Anglia/SE England (which is a bit of a no mans land, neither in one region nor the other).
December 5, 2007 at 12:26 am #1145733
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globalloon wrote:

maybe it’s just affluent areas where people get too contented and don’t want to chance a run in with the police? IME when people are struggling, we have a stronger sense of community

these days its also not a “chance” of a run in with the police, but a determined effort to clamp down using 3 police forces, other public sector agencies and being supported by the rest of society. There is actually a big history of social activism and popular stubbornness in East Anglia, particularly socialism and labour activism but one equally matched by the authorities and others who disagree with activism, plus a massive backlash from the Essex area (the wider society there, not just the cops).

The cops investigating some of the raves down here and their funding sources are the same team from the Ipswich murder cases.

boothy wrote:

i’d definately agree with that. thats why workin class comunity always been so strong innit. i watched a documentary on how exodus formed the other day, i guess thats a good example

Exodus were/are from the “crossover” area between East Anglia/SE England (which is a bit of a no mans land, neither in one region nor the other).
December 5, 2007 at 12:30 am #1124845
MisterDuck
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General Lighting wrote:

Exodus were/are from the “crossover” area between East Anglia/SE England.

yeh, but that was way before the economic boom you talked of weren’t it? like in luton n all that? all i know is on the documentary it showed wat glo was talkin about, they drew together ‘cos they had a rough time of it n the people went to the parties cos of that

spiral tribe (no less respect to em) were a loada posh boys, werent they?
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