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May 14, 2009 at 2:00 pm #1047300
A group of travellers wrecked a multi-million pound police helicopter which was being used to spy on their site.
The gang used axes to smash the £5million aircraft, after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad at Fairoaks airport, near Woking in Surrey.
After threatening staff working in the operations room, they set about wrecking the helicopter, smashing six of its windows and causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage.Gypsies smash ??5million police helicopter with axes in revenge for ‘spy’ flights | Mail Online
im trying not to see the funny side of this… :laugh_at:
May 14, 2009 at 2:13 pm #1199332they only bought that a few years ago as Surrey didn’t want to have to share with the Met’s two aircraft…
won’t be funny for any travellers or ravers or anyone else in SE England as the cops won’t take that lying down – look at what happened in East Anglia when they thought they could mob Police stations…
cops aren’t stupid and know their actions don’t exactly win them popularity contests – and
the sad facts are that friends of mine what are on the road and don’t do any illegal shit other than maybe smoke a joint or two are gonna be clamped down on more….May 14, 2009 at 2:15 pm #1199349Savage story yes……..
Bloody Daily Mail though. Striking fear into the heart of middle England as per!!
May 14, 2009 at 2:21 pm #1199333exactly. whats worse is some of the commenters do have a point – even if/when the cops raid every travellers site they can, the bulk of the cost of fixing the aircraft will be passed straight back to Surrey’s council tax payers, thus further increasing hatred against the travellers.
May 14, 2009 at 2:28 pm #1199340“after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad”
good bit of security they’ve got.
obviously its not a good thing for the area, but considering the cops think they can pretty much do what they like and have no reprecussions eg g20 lie’s and sending cops in to hype up the crowd etc etc, its good to see that some people wont take over the top policing lieing down. Its def not a good way to go about things and wont solve anything, but still… maybe they’ll be more of this in the years to come if the police and government keep going in the direction they are headed…
May 14, 2009 at 2:30 pm #1199342djprocess;327020 wrote:A group of travellers wrecked a multi-million pound police helicopter which was being used to spy on their site.
The gang used axes to smash the £5million aircraft, after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad at Fairoaks airport, near Woking in Surrey.
After threatening staff working in the operations room, they set about wrecking the helicopter, smashing six of its windows and causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage.Not looking good at all for any party people or travellers. The police will not like this at all.
:bad_idea:May 14, 2009 at 2:35 pm #1199341benbear;327030 wrote:djprocess;327020 wrote:A group of travellers wrecked a multi-million pound police helicopter which was being used to spy on their site.
The gang used axes to smash the £5million aircraft, after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad at Fairoaks airport, near Woking in Surrey.
After threatening staff working in the operations room, they set about wrecking the helicopter, smashing six of its windows and causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage.Not looking good at all for any party people or travellers. The police will not like this at all.
:bad_idea:true, its not the same as that prick smashing up that cop car at that rave tho. I didnt find that funny at all. I suppose if i was a traveller i wouldnt be too happy about what they’ve done…
May 14, 2009 at 2:38 pm #1199343as an isolated incident it’s probably bad, but funny
if someone stirred up the country and we all did it, in each area, it’d really fuck them up
it’d be ideal as well – don’t physically attack the police officers as they are still humans and human rights should never be compromisedbut immobilise their equipment and leave them stranded, cars, choppers etc.
but yeah realistically, its a bit lols but also a bit counter-productive
May 14, 2009 at 2:45 pm #1199334All this used to happen in the 80s/90s and is exactly why they have more surveillance and security.
The cops worldwide have a endless pot of taxpayers money to replace busted kit and are still supported by the bulk of those with power and influence whose opinions actually matter…
even humans are expendable in policing. Three midlands cops died of cancer from radiation during the 90s because the early handheld airwave radios had too much output power..
In legal terms the helicopter was no different from the cop car being smashed up at that rave. in each case some individuals got nicked because they did something illegal and took it out on a bit of public sector property, the backlash always affects others.
May 14, 2009 at 3:44 pm #1199335djprocess;327029 wrote:“after they leapt over a 4ft wall surrounding Surrey Police force’s helipad”good bit of security they’ve got.
this was a soft target in many respects.
This heli was kept at a civllian aerodrome (Fairoaks Airport). As a contrast, TVP’s heli XA97 is kept at RAF Benson, and Suffolk’s AA99 at RAF Wattisham; which as you would expect in the current climate have military grade security!
May 14, 2009 at 4:20 pm #1199327AnonymousGeneral Lighting;327024 wrote:look at what happened in East Anglia when they thought they could mob Police stations…dont spose you have a news paper link for that or antythin? sounds mad
May 14, 2009 at 4:23 pm #1199328Anonymous🙁 this is just going to create bigger problems for people and make the poliece look more justified with their harsher recession tacktics. Least I cannot see anything else that will come of it.
May 14, 2009 at 4:30 pm #1199336photographthesun;327042 wrote:dont spose you have a news paper link for that or antythin? sounds madhttp://www.partyvibe.com/forums/free-parties-teknivals/26482-mob-lays-siege-great-yarmouth.html
May 14, 2009 at 4:33 pm #1199329AnonymousGeneral Lighting;327046 wrote:Thanks GL
May 14, 2009 at 5:28 pm #1199347idealy there should be a mass boycot of paing tax … that would fuck them right up and leave them with fuck all to defend them selves with … but on an indavidual basis you would just get nicked for evasion .. if every one did it at the same time … they would run out of cash and fall very quickly … i hate paing for people to dictate my life to me … even when i got put in hospital after being sevarly beat up (alltho the nhs helped alot .. i would happily save up my saved tax to pay for them to keep running) the police did fuck all .. actualy told me even tho i could point out the people who did it they could do nothing and didn’t even bother … in the time i needed them the most .. they was not there .. and I PAY for this shit! boycot the fuckers … if only enought people could be rallyed up to do this and actualy make a big dent! 😥
May 14, 2009 at 5:44 pm #1199350@DaftFader 327070 wrote:
idealy there should be a mass boycot of paing tax … that would fuck them right up and leave them with fuck all to defend them selves with … but on an indavidual basis you would just get nicked for evasion .. if every one did it at the same time … they would run out of cash and fall very quickly … i hate paing for people to dictate my life to me … even when i got put in hospital after being sevarly beat up (alltho the nhs helped alot .. i would happily save up my saved tax to pay for them to keep running) the police did fuck all .. actualy told me even tho i could point out the people who did it they could do nothing and didn’t even bother … in the time i needed them the most .. they was not there .. and I PAY for this shit! boycot the fuckers … if only enought people could be rallyed up to do this and actualy make a big dent! 😥
if u werent paying the scum tax u could have saved up for private treatment =)
May 14, 2009 at 7:45 pm #1199344Problem is a tax boycott would destroy plenty of good initiatives.
Whilst the government controls the distribution of public money, we cannot boycott tax. Although in my opinion I will happily give money to social welfare such as schools, NHS, youth services, community services and upkeep of public facilities, public transport, environmental solutions etc. however in my mind I despise and do not agree with the huge amount that gets given to the Ministry of Defence (will someone tell me when it has done much defending and not simply attacking) to the Police and to bail out capitalist corporations and banks.
Boycotting taxes is an “overnight revolution” tactic which although appealing (yes, we’d all like to see socialism happen by a unanimous overthrowing of the government) it is simply not realistic and progression is the key.
I think we need to use democracy to change how taxes are distributed as well as influence which laws are made.
May 14, 2009 at 7:55 pm #1199337indeed, the issue with tax boycotts is the right wing can turn it back on everyone, saying the NHS should be replaced by private medicine, and even the Police by private armies who would probably be happy to fire upon the travellers site just as minorities are treated in some foreign nations!
Also relatively well-off single men with no kids could refuse to fund schools and nurseries (I am supposedly one of these but don’t begrudge whatever bit of my taxes go towards childrens’ services)
boothy;327139 wrote:however in my mind I despise and do not agree with the huge amount that gets given to the Ministry of Defence (will someone tell me when it has done much defending and not simply attacking)A while back I did some delving into their expenditure (at least what is published) for the same reasons as yourself – and found out that they fund both the Meteorological Office and the Ordnance Survey; two services I make use of every day (indeed I am looking at a Met office sidebar now so I can dodge the rain when I cycle back home).
Other parts of the MOD also provide a lot of “back office” functions to the Civil Service such as looking after pensions and other random things like estates management – although its not the sort of thing most civillians who have never worked for Whitehall would be aware of.
They also do provide backup for Defra and other agencies when Nature fights back during floods etc. (even in an ideal country I’d still keep a uniformed service for this purpose alone)
but of course due to “operational secrecy” its not easy to find out how much is spent on war and how much on more peaceful stuff…
May 15, 2009 at 6:00 pm #1199339Is your right to vote.
Or stand for parliament if you feel strongly enough about your views. However, if you think this is a good idea you must realise that despite your idealistic standpoint the mundane nature of modern life takes precedence over pretty much anything else and you’d soon be bogged down in local affairs. Your constituents aren’t all free party lovers and want to be considered equally to those which are.
And you won’t be able to scrounge loads of lovely new stuff for your second home in Knightsbridge now either.
A better plan would be to encourage all those people you know (including yourself) who come up with ‘radical’ alternative ideas (because “the government does nothing for me/they’re all the same/they never change anything” etc..) to pick the lesser of a few evils and making a point of hounding their MP to distraction about such radical ideas.
Vote.
And maintain contact with your MP.
Vote’s only count if you do the follow up work because otherwise the newly elected minister has a free reign. So reign the fucker in ok?
MAKE THEM LISTEN TO YOU by never relenting.raaa
OR….
Use the free party network to initiate guerilla warfare on the blue light services/government/other social entity you feel is not-your-responsibility and see how far you get in the current alert state. I’ll take a front row seat and eat pretzels with my Stella cos it’ll be pretty fucking funny to watch the apathetic become pathetic once the tanks and heli’s and undercover agents and SAS get sent in.
:crazy_diz
May 16, 2009 at 4:52 pm #1199346boothy;327139 wrote:Problem is a tax boycott would destroy plenty of good initiatives.Whilst the government controls the distribution of public money, we cannot boycott tax. Although in my opinion I will happily give money to social welfare such as schools, NHS, youth services, community services and upkeep of public facilities, public transport, environmental solutions etc. however in my mind I despise and do not agree with the huge amount that gets given to the Ministry of Defence (will someone tell me when it has done much defending and not simply attacking) to the Police and to bail out capitalist corporations and banks.
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90% or somthing there about of scientific advancements come directly from military research
May 16, 2009 at 4:54 pm #1199330AnonymousJonnyQuest;327586 wrote:90% or somthing there about of scientific advancements come directly from military researchHello Mr Quest, long time no read
May 16, 2009 at 5:22 pm #1199348boothy;327139 wrote:Problem is a tax boycott would destroy plenty of good initiatives.Whilst the government controls the distribution of public money, we cannot boycott tax. Although in my opinion I will happily give money to social welfare such as schools, NHS, youth services, community services and upkeep of public facilities, public transport, environmental solutions etc. however in my mind I despise and do not agree with the huge amount that gets given to the Ministry of Defence (will someone tell me when it has done much defending and not simply attacking) to the Police and to bail out capitalist corporations and banks.
Boycotting taxes is an “overnight revolution” tactic which although appealing (yes, we’d all like to see socialism happen by a unanimous overthrowing of the government) it is simply not realistic and progression is the key.
I think we need to use democracy to change how taxes are distributed as well as influence which laws are made.
give it time they will fall … throughout history govenments have risen and fallen .. there isn’t a single govenment that was around for eternity … mby not in our life time … but it WILL happen … time has proven this
May 16, 2009 at 9:51 pm #1199351dudes, i don’t know what anmy of you r talking about….but that shit about the gyppos fucking up a helicopter is way funny man!
May 17, 2009 at 11:47 am #1199331Anonymouspartypoppinpete;327628 wrote:dudes, i don’t know what anmy of you r talking about….but that shit about the gyppos fucking up a helicopter is way funny man!its less funny when you think about who payed for it.
May 17, 2009 at 12:41 pm #1199345JonnyQuest;327586 wrote:90% or somthing there about of scientific advancements come directly from military research+1.
Basically we need armed forces and i think they should get a lot more funding than they do now. The world ain’t a rosy happy place, If we didn’t have the capability to defend ourselves we’d soon be fucked. That goes across the board as well, Police Army navy etc. I did read something interesting from one of the heads of the Army. He said we need to get out of the cold war style weaponnry that the govt keeps buying. Seeing as most of the conflicts are counter insurgency operations he could be on to something there.
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