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April 29, 2013 at 3:13 pm #1055737
Basically i’ve rinsed my mixtrack pro pretty hard and am looking for some good, cheap-ish CDJ’s to upgrade to. I’ve looked around but i want to here what you lot would recommend. (i know CDJs are rarely cheap, but i mean cheap comparatively to the likes of pioneer)
April 29, 2013 at 3:49 pm #1272648Don’t be a cheat, buy some vinyl and a set of decks and be a proper DJ! Go on sunshine, you know it makes sense!
April 29, 2013 at 4:15 pm #1272650@MC G-Tek 543698 wrote:
Don’t be a cheat, buy some vinyl and a set of decks and be a proper DJ! Go on sunshine, you know it makes sense!
I was tempted actually because i listen to quite a lot of old skool garage. But i then i thought the stuff i mostly enjoy mixing is hard trance, progressive and minimal techno, none of which you’ll find on vinyl
April 29, 2013 at 4:23 pm #1272649@season. 543701 wrote:
I was tempted actually because i listen to quite a lot of old skool garage. But i then i thought the stuff i mostly enjoy mixing is hard trance, progressive and minimal techno, none of which you’ll find on vinyl
You’ll definitely find some hard trance on vinyl mate, just gotta look in the right places. Dunno about prog or minimal techno, but if they ain’t on vinyl, then they are charlatans and must be beaten with big sticks!
April 29, 2013 at 4:27 pm #1272651@MC G-Tek 543702 wrote:
You’ll definitely find some hard trance on vinyl mate, just gotta look in the right places. Dunno about prog or minimal techno, but if they ain’t on vinyl, then they are charlatans and must be beaten with big sticks!
I’m sure it exists. But i’d rather have the flexibility to just find the .wav of any hard trance songs, burn it to CD and mix. Easy as! Instead of listening to a sick progressive song i like then have to find out it’s not available on vinyl :/
April 29, 2013 at 4:34 pm #1272640@season. 543701 wrote:
I was tempted actually because i listen to quite a lot of old skool garage. But i then i thought the stuff i mostly enjoy mixing is hard trance, progressive and minimal techno, none of which you’ll find on vinyl
a lot of genres stopped releasing new tracks on vinyl over a decade ago now. Trance was the first one to change over and most European DJ’s who use vinyl only have it for sets played with archive stuff.
Even CD releases are giving way to digital, and the big name DJ’s actually now only keep their CD’s as a backup and use the CDJs as a MIDI controller. If you can’t afford Pioneers you’d be better off getting one of the models which also doubles up as a MIDI controller anyway.
“proper” DJ’s who exclusively use vinyl are going the way of blacksmiths and chimney sweeps. You can still find them but they are not as common as they once were or they have to reskill as something else (I actually know a blacksmith who ended up repairing mobile phones as a more reliable income source in the modern era).
April 29, 2013 at 5:10 pm #1272652@General Lighting 543704 wrote:
a lot of genres stopped releasing new tracks on vinyl over a decade ago now. Trance was the first one to change over and most European DJ’s who use vinyl only have it for sets played with archive stuff.
Even CD releases are giving way to digital, and the big name DJ’s actually now only keep their CD’s as a backup and use the CDJs as a MIDI controller. If you can’t afford Pioneers you’d be better off getting one of the models which also doubles up as a MIDI controller anyway.
“proper” DJ’s who exclusively use vinyl are going the way of blacksmiths and chimney sweeps. You can still find them but they are not as common as they once were or they have to reskill as something else (I actually know a blacksmith who ended up repairing mobile phones as a more reliable income source in the modern era).
Yep exactly! Hmm i shall do some more research about a CDJ that doubles up as midi as well. Could be very useful.
Perfect analogy of the “proper” vinyl Dj’s haha
April 29, 2013 at 5:58 pm #1272653SO ideas anyone? I can’t remember who dj’s on here…
April 29, 2013 at 6:17 pm #1272641I do but use digital kit these days (a similar controller to the Mixtrack pro which has about 5 different names but is the same Chinese piece of kit). Numark do a variety of combined CDJs/controllers which do look a bit “1980s/1990s” in their design but are way cheaper than Pioneer kit. My personal experience both with my own kit and monitoring how DJ’s on the community radio station get on has been that if you keep the mixer section analogue you get better sound and less glitches, and if you do end up using a laptop for DJ’ing be particularly careful about its power saving modes and the crapware these come with as they can cause it to go pear shaped at crucial moments.
The reason laptop / digital DJ’s often get into a pickle is that they do not research properly what they are trying to achieve with their equipment, and/or do not keep backups or let their computers get filled up with crapware.
BTW I’ve spoken to numerous DJ’s who are actually getting paying gigs who almost exclusively use laptops now and just keep a box of CD’s in the car in case of a equipment failure (although many of them do the townie club circuit where the punters are too pissed to care what music is being played anyway, but as we know that increasingly is the main nightlife. I was also discussing music kit on a electronics forum with some dudes old enough to be my dad and they were amazed folk still used Technics 1200s as these are now classed as vintage hi fi.
April 30, 2013 at 6:38 am #1272644Numark ndx200. cheap. CDJ 2000s or 1000s way better than fukin vinyl. Quik access to millions of songs, loops, effects etc… vinyl is dying and the logistics are shit with it. No such thing as a real dj equip wise. a dj literally plays songs you don’t have to mix, blend, crossover 2 channels to be a real dj… you’ll just be shit…. Id much rather see richie hawtin set up than spme nostalgic plastic discs, if you think vinyl is real then you’re ignorant….
April 30, 2013 at 7:15 am #1272647Yeah either go with Numark or skip CD’s alltogether and get something like an APC40 and use it with Ableton Live. It’ll probably cost a little bit more than a CDJ but the payoff is substantial and you won’t have to carry a bunch of CD’s around. You can do a lot of cool stuff with that MIDI controller and make it really interactive.
If you’re really set on CDJs that are cheap then looking at some Numarks is the way to go.
It is a lot of fun to DJ vinyl though. It’s just such an inconvenience to carry the equipment plus the actual discs that it’s not worth it. Better used for listening to tracks at home.
April 30, 2013 at 8:34 am #1272642@p0ly 543878 wrote:
Numark ndx200. cheap. CDJ 2000s or 1000s way better than fukin vinyl. Quik access to millions of songs, loops, effects etc… vinyl is dying and the logistics are shit with it. No such thing as a real dj equip wise. a dj literally plays songs you don’t have to mix, blend, crossover 2 channels to be a real dj… you’ll just be shit…. Id much rather see richie hawtin set up than spme nostalgic plastic discs, if you think vinyl is real then you’re ignorant….
TBH the only folk I know who still play vinyl are either middle aged DJ’s who are deliberately playing an old skool selection of tunes (whether it is EDM or conventional pop) or if they are still in their 20s to 40s the equivalent the more flaky new age types who seem to think that if they wish hard enough the “good times” of the 1990s will come back (Ok rave was a new thing and so were many party drugs but I still remember those days and in reality they weren’t that fucking great anyway!)
April 30, 2013 at 8:46 am #1272654You could always get vinyl and something like Serrato which allows you to play .wavs or whatever onto a ‘control’ vinyl. That may be outta your price range though
April 30, 2013 at 8:48 am #1272645Vinyl users are stuck up too. They think they are real and any other djing form is inferior and i’ve heard it so much. Why are they so stuck up about Vinyl… Even kids 20 years old… There’s more to DJing than beatmatching and touching plastic…. at least get a Kaossilator pro linked in with your vinyl then your getting somewhere. or get traktor scratch pro it’s decent. I’m not paying 100 quid for Cai – thundercats on vinyl you joking? real DJing is spending your paycheck on an hour set…? no
April 30, 2013 at 8:57 am #1272643@p0ly 543899 wrote:
I’m not paying 100 quid for Cai – thundercats on vinyl you joking? real DJing is spending your paycheck on an hour set…? no
TBH the kind of folk doing this aren’t working “conventional” jobs, and when the authorities see folk with no jobs buying a shit ton of vinyl with no legit source of income that is precisely why you get the Serious/Organised crime units watching the free party scene and that is also why smarter people do not brag about what unlicensed music events they may have attended on public internet forums. The cops are smart too these days (I have met a fair few now who are clearly are ex-ravers who joined up out of genuine concern about the negative impact of the drugs culture on Britain, as well as other folk in investigative rôles).
Even the thriving Dutch EDM scene is very closely monitored and kept “clean” from overt links with drug culture, which is why its tolerated there. On that note its not likely Armin will be spinning much (if any) vinyl tomorrow, even if the King likes classic trance tracks….
April 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm #1272646I have in my home setup some pioneer CDJ 800MK2’s pretty old but they do the job but I am looking to upgrade!
May 23, 2013 at 3:52 pm #1272639Anonymous
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