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April 11, 2007 at 10:54 am #1041016
What random shit goes down nowadays, randomly stopping a car on the motorway and attacking it for no apparent reason an then speeding off, sounds like you’ve just been playing GTA not driving down the M1
by Stewart Tendler, Crime Correspondent, The Times 11/04/07
Traffic on the northbound M1 was forced to a halt on Easter Monday after all lanes were blocked by a gang of men armed with baseball bats, bottles and knives who attacked two people in another car, police said yesterday.
Motorists watched as four cars that had been travelling in a convoy stopped across the northbound motorway near junction 15 in Northamptonshire, blocking it completely.
Up to 15 men got out and milled around on the road. Four or five of them descended on a Ford Focus they had forced to stop and then attacked the car, the driver and a front-seat passenger.
Northamptonshire Police said that they believed that the attack, which took place at about 1.15pm, must have been planned, although the occupants of the Focus told officers that it was unprovoked and they had no idea why they had been singled out.
The police are trying to discover if there was an earlier incident before the attack that could have provoked road rage, and are studying closed-circuit television footage from the motorway.
A spokesman for Northamptonshire Police said that it was unlikely the attack had not been planned. “We are looking to see if there had been some sort of road-rage incident before this particular incident took place,” he said.
The four Asian men in the Focus were travelling north when they noticed that they were being followed by a lime-green Rover 200.
They were flashed and pelted with bottles, which bounced off the car, before the Rover cut them up and forced them to stop. The hard shoulder and the roadway itself were then blocked by three other vehicles — a black Audi A3, a black Toyota Prius and possibly a red Audi A3.
A crowd of black men, aged between 20 and 30, and wearing black clothing, gold chains and bracelets, spilt on to the road as the attack began.
The driver and his passengers were not badly hurt and the attackers, who are thought to have been driving from London, got back into their cars and sped away.
Northamptonshire Police alerted other forces farther along the M1 but the convoy was not spotted again.
Officers were examining film yesterday from motorway cameras and were carrying out checks on registration numbers yesterday.
Northamptonshire Police said that other similar incidents may have happened elsewhere on the motorway.
“We don’t know if there were any other incidents like this anywhere else on the motorway, but if there were then we urge people to come forward with information,” a spokesman said.
Police appealed for potential witnesses to the incident to contact them on 08453 700700.
— As many as 70 per cent of motorists have been a victim of car crime, a survey indicated today. Many of the crimes went unreported as owners believed that nothing could be done, the online poll by What Car? magazine suggested.
The statistics related to people who had had their car stolen, broken into or vandalised.April 11, 2007 at 11:09 am #1102744:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
April 11, 2007 at 11:11 am #1102745Our country is becoming mad! :you_crazy
I cannot belive this sort of thing is happening over here!
April 11, 2007 at 11:30 am #1102743Tell you the truth its always been there like that it just wasnt as widely publicised.
April 11, 2007 at 11:32 am #1102746HARTY wrote:Tell you the truth its always been there like that it just wasnt as widely publicised.Crazy i tell you! Crazy……………….. :hiding:
April 11, 2007 at 12:21 pm #1102741Harty is right, all this shit happened when he was a lad too.
There was loads of gang activity in the 70s and 80s, although there were less guns discharged in the streets, people fought hard with their firsts/feet and occasionally knifes and other weapons. In fact real guns including pistols were more readily available then as pistols weren’t made illegal until 1997, and lots of “middle england” types kept them to guard against pikeys etc.
OTOH because there was less easy telecommunications these incidents normally only made a local newspaper or telly rather than national news.
thats why HMP is so full today, lots of the “70s/80s hard men” actually took their rivals lives or did GBH and so got long stretches – many are still unrepentant (you need to show remorse to get parole) – now there are some prisons that are like nursing homes because of the age of their inmates.
The football hooligans, national Front and the ethnic gangs of the 70s/80s were as bad as today. I remember seeing an old crime report from the 70s where it mentioned how some hooligans didn’t think a football player ( I think he was from Reading) had played particularly well, so they drove up behind him in a van and fired multiple pistol shots into his legs.
Also in the 70s one of Thames Valley’s detectives was shot dead by a drug dealer at Reading Festival, which is why to this day Reading CID loathe the festival and do everything they can to find out anything they could use against its license application.
April 11, 2007 at 12:26 pm #1102747General Lighting wrote:The football hooligans, national Front and the ethnic gangs of the 70s/80s were as bad if not worse than today. I remember seeing an old crime report from the 70s where it mentioned how some hooligans didn’t think a football player ( I think he was from Reading) had played particularly well, so they drove up behind him in a van and fired multiple pistol shots into his legs.Also in the 70s one of Thames Valley’s detectives was shot dead by a drug dealer at Reading Festival, which is why to this day Reading CID loathe the festival and do everything they can to find out anything they could use against its license application.
I never knew it was this bad back then! Just the media makes us belive that the problem has got worse.
Well you learn something new everyday
April 11, 2007 at 3:11 pm #1102748bleeding ridiculous …
April 11, 2007 at 3:21 pm #1102742starlaugh wrote:I never knew it was this bad back then! Just the media makes us belive that the problem has got worse.Well you learn something new everyday
IMO the turning point wasn’t even any political or media conspiracy, simply the advance of technology.
Until the 1980s, TV news had to be shot on film. This was expensive and time-consuming as film has to be processed and could only be used once, plus a news crew needed more people (a chap had to also carry a portable reel to reel tape recorder to record the sound track as well as the man with the film camera).
So only really big stories made it to TV news (local or national).
By the mid 80s portable video cameras and camcorders were available for TV news crews (albeit huge bulky things), video cassetes are of course reusable so more stories could make it to TV.
By the 90s the blue light services themselves started making extensive use of CCTV and hand held equipment for their own evidence-gathering or training (for instance Fire and Rescue film every big fire they attend), thus making it even cheaper for the media to get footage of “Crimes, Fires and Accidents” (this was actually a real programme name in the 1990s).
Also, the head of Carlton/Central TV throughout the 90s had always wanted to be a cop if he hadn’t worked in telly, as well as crime docs commissioned a lot of fairly realistic crime dramas which often TX’d alongside documentaries, thus blurring the distinction between “art” and reality.
Plus the youth crime was already happening in the 80s and 90s, but the gangs of those days also didn’t have studios to make their grime tunes to “represent their ends”, nor media like Channel U to put across their music videos or make the DIY gangsta DVDs that are sold today.
Hence a greater public perception that there is more and more crime and harsh stuff occurring.
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