You just reminded me why I hated being a teenager…sorry but life is a bitch until you rule your world, some of the things the adults decide aint that bad but its hard to see that when its in your face. You got my sympathy. Take care, lad.

@Kung Fu Fader 437301 wrote:

you don’t get he joke sam? you not know the kevin character from kevin and perry?

@JustAnotherDarren 437311 wrote:

i’ll be fine tomorrow, no doubt, but thanks.
I don’t know kevin and perry, again!
Some other show i didnt know before- i don’t really watch tv.

wow i’m amazed you haven’t seen the film kevin and perry go large!! thought these were like english memes you are supposed to be taught without fail!

@General Lighting 437314 wrote:

to be fair when Kevin and Perry was on telly you’d have been 6 or even younger.

And it does initially seem harsh your parents grassing you up but they certainly didn’t have all this referral / tag stuff when I was a teenager – if you got in enough trouble you basically either got put in secure childrens home or young offenders and had to run the gauntlet of bullies and even nonces, and the fact you had been in there was on your record for school, college and uni to see. And that way many of my generation got fucked up when they were young, ended up in and out of prison even to this age and fucked up their lives more and more. At least nowadays you get given a bit more of a chance..

tbf my ex who’s older than me amazed me with all the shit they hadn’t seen, i bought so many dvds and boxsets just to teach em the ways lol

@JustAnotherDarren 437317 wrote:

@p0ly message me some stuff then i must watch 🙂
considering i like parties and music it may confuse/surprise you, but when i do watch tv, i love to watch david attenborough and things that are informative! 🙂 Not so much the extremely entertaining shows- like friends. cause i realise they are entertaining whereas most ppl just say trashy.
And general lighting, i’d rather they just gave you a bash around the head sorta thing, than all this thing.
I’ve done a couple of stupid crimes mostly petty stuff. I get caught for one thing, being there when a friend stole a moped and i get 6 months community service, weekly appointments/check ups. If i were in the same ‘want’ to be bad/badman and i’d gone through this 6month period i would’ve been in a far worse off place like my friend.
I went through the 6month period made some friends at communtity service, YOT(youth offending team) as in other offenders. Whereas my mate teamed up with all the ‘bad apples’ and became worse whereas i’d only see them at yot. He now has a sufficiently large network of gang members, petty crime criminals and dealers. These children will go through this useless, UNITING process until they are older, and not be able to see another life. Especially with everything getting wrote down. Me being expelled from school when i was 8 and 12, wrote down. Me joyriding, scribbled down, me smoking weed/possession wrote down. me getting in a rubber fight wrote down recorded as defacing school property. Me putting my arm around a girl- inappropriate contact with girls in school- wrote down. Most of this happened before i was 14, and its all against my name, until i finish college. And some of the ‘larger’ things for life. All before i was 16, growing up and showing the slightest elements of boredom and childish activity. And i come from a good background, and thats following me around, and im not keen to continue. The second you get your first yot appointment, you get put with the other bad kids, and if you dont mind, let alone be keen to continue in the way, you will be dragged down. This really isn’t a good idea, i just don’t think it works-
Then again, I’m just a kid.

i think wanting to get into raving if you wanna get away from this sort of thing is a bad move. not saying raves are full of criminals but from my experience the sort of people who go raving are getting into a fair bit of trouble than most.

@p0ly 437318 wrote:

i think wanting to get into raving if you wanna get away from this sort of thing is a bad move. not saying raves are full of criminals but from my experience the sort of people who go raving are getting into a fair bit of trouble than most.

or at least wait until you have a independent and legal source of income.. the big problem is simply that drugs are not just illegal but can be expensive, so its easy to get tempted into low level dealing and scams / petty theft.

I didn’t have a criminal record until I started partying regularly and got caught a few times for drugs. Only got cautions but they still are on my record. That said if you are in work and lead a otherwise decent life (particularly not stealing or being aggressive) the system doesn’t care as much, but if you are still in your teens or early 20s without a job and living a wannabe gangsta lifestyle thats when its easy to get sent down even for comparatively petty stuff..

@JustAnotherDarren 437322 wrote:

Maybe you don’t realise that thats the idea but my mate, is early 20’s. He’s living the gangster lifestyle, last time i saw him 3 months ago, he’d been put in a cell for the upto 24 hour period “87” times. He’s no older than 23, All these crimes have been petty- although he has been 2 feltham twice for armed robbery of a house and possesion of an amount of smack for short stretches. Other than those crimes his other crimes are very petty.. H

OK its not London and round here people really have been sent down for petty non violent stuff like doing raves, but in London this youth crime was still happening 20 years ago and was happening even before then during times like the 1950s (including the guns) so not sure why you’re saying its bullshit..

sentences might seem short and they aren’t a deterrent initially as even prison is less harsh than 10-20 years ago, but at least it means people are brought to judgement – it all catches up with them, they never get a decent job, these “street soldiers” are gonna be the washed junkies/crackheads what either do something really fucked up like murder and do hard time, or get killed because there’s always someone more ruthless, or they end up being found hanging in some random place in Essex and no one cries for them, not even their parents.

Like I said, life is harsh and there are a lot of surplus people around whom those with real power don’t care if they live or die. And the people last year elected a government which is planning to clamp down on crime just like back in the 1980s even if it leads to riots in the streets. if the “do gooder” approaches aren’t working they will just go back to a more hardline approach.

Actually out of my mates from high school to when I was your age about 40% are now banged up/sectioned/dead, thats the reality of things. and this was from growing up in a affluent part of SE England! Plus feds and other authorities judge you on your associates and like it or not they have the real power on the streets… you come across as got more sense than to get caught up in that kind of stuff so its best to at least try and lead a decent life, get out of it while you can and be careful who you knock around with…

@JustAnotherDarren 437324 wrote:

don’t understand first paragraph well.
what i was syaing is bullshit is only that you get sent down for petty stuff. you get sent nowhere, if you meant prison?

yep though the system can be really variable especially in areas with less crime and where the prisons aren’t as full. Also though doing 12 months is obviously more boring than 4 – once someone is trying to get their life back on track only 33% of employers will take on a former prisoner no matter how long they got.

also London has always had a problem with youth crime since the 1950s (I study criminology as a hobby interest and collect all sorts of info from then until the modern day).

People move to Essex (and Suffolk) to escape London for a variety of reasons but if they’ve fucked up their life in the past they can’t escape these mistakes, plus round here with less crime and more cops per member of population folk have to behave or they get hauled up a lot quicker. TBH I came here myself as life is less hectic and more enjoyable than London and SE England.

yes, youth courts and CS (and TBH even the criminal justice system for adults) have increasingly been like this in the last 20 or so years as they got changed around the late 80s/early 90s to be less harsh and try and give people a chance to reform. Which means they can and probably will go back in the other direction and become more judgemental and controlling and I expect they will do – as you say yourself most people even in cities get by without doing loads of crime, and these normal people are getting fucked off with the way certain youths behave.

I didnt get into the rave scene until the summer I became 30. It was late but as I’ve learned it was a lucky move, there are some things in life that becomes easier with age due to experience and life in general. The rave scene is just a small part of most peoples life, not mine, it became my life-style and my job. Life will give you the mentally ballast that will sort out the dark sides of partying easier for you. For some, the party life style keep them in place and nowhere else, it will not broaden your horizon unless you live your life full-filled in the whole. Some of the activities you get in touch with when you go to big parties are not things that a 16 year old life should tackle, it takes away your goals and makes you less compitent deal with what life throws at you. A quick look into our rehab threads here on this site will show you that.

I will do my best to keep the raving scene alive while you go on living your life and when its due time for you to come into scene I/we will be here or there……

So my honest wish is that you go on get your education, be active(politics, skating, fishing etc) and find a way out with your parents. And keep in touch here so you do not miss out the music and on whats going on…
(at least try to find a middle way so you do not get caught up in sumtin…)
This might not be the answer you wanted, it is one with the best in mind for you.

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