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    ogga
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      Hey folks after 5 years of naughty-ness I’ve recently given up smoking (weed an the baccy), drinking (cos i tend to work myself up for a blaze afterwards) and pills (cos i mean shit its anything goes after a few beans!) – two weeks down an its been not so bad really, the thing is though…my mates have been dread.

      Okay I understand that they might feel like they’ve lost me in a sense, but still-not only have they been un-supportive, they’ve been like, hurtful sometimes.now, I’m the kind of chappie that puts himself in other peoples shoes-treat others like you’d like to be treated. man, I’ve been called lame by one, another said I’d not make it a week (and to come an see him with a ten-bit when i fail), boring (only cos I’m not bunning), stressy and preachy (that was only the once an I’ve kept it on a short lead).

      None of the “spot-on lad you’ve done well” or whatever I’ve said to other peeps when they’ve embarked on the test of tests.they don’t understand that this is a turbulent time, and its hard enough without your mates turning against you.i generally ask for nothing in return. but you’d expect your chums to be there for yait just surprised me thats all. before two weeks ago these people were my brothers. now i don’t even know if they cut the mustard as my pals.

      so now i just need some new faces-jus dunno where to look anyway i just needed to get that off my chest-feel a piece pukka for that!rant over folks-any thoughts?

      safe

      #1114365
      Clang
      Participant

        Congrat’s for keeping to it for a fortnight.

        My missus doesn’t do any drugs and she feels like some kind of outcast when we go out even though she has as much fun as everybody else.

        Funny innit considering most ravers preach “freedom to do what I want to”.

        I guess that just doesn’t apply if you want to stay clean and have a good time at a party.

        Some people! :groucho:

        #1134682
        Clang
        Participant

          Congrat’s for keeping to it for a fortnight.

          My missus doesn’t do any drugs and she feels like some kind of outcast when we go out even though she has as much fun as everybody else.

          Funny innit considering most ravers preach “freedom to do what I want to”.

          I guess that just doesn’t apply if you want to stay clean and have a good time at a party.

          Some people! :groucho:

          #1114364
          General Lighting
          Moderator

            fair play for staying clean, its pointless getting high if you are starting not to enjoy it in any form..

            amongst my friends some do more than others but with those I am closest to everyone respects each others choices

            What worries me is some people don’t seem to think that constant use of party drugs can become problematic – when it does its not so much that “it kills you or makes you very ill” but it affects the way you interact with other people negatively and gets people into a social circle that revolves constantly around drugs and their use..

            That IMO is why there is control and prohibition at the moment…

            #1134681
            General Lighting
            Moderator

              fair play for staying clean, its pointless getting high if you are starting not to enjoy it in any form..

              amongst my friends some do more than others but with those I am closest to everyone respects each others choices

              What worries me is some people don’t seem to think that constant use of party drugs can become problematic – when it does its not so much that “it kills you or makes you very ill” but it affects the way you interact with other people negatively and gets people into a social circle that revolves constantly around drugs and their use..

              That IMO is why there is control and prohibition at the moment…

              #1114368
              Raj
              Participant

                Well done for staying clean for two weeks mate – that a a real achievment cold turkey raaaraaaraaa

                I think you need new mates though – friends will support you through these rough patches – not actively make them harder :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
                I dont get it though – its no business of theirs whether you do or dont take stuff to go out and party :noway: I have mates who sometimes go out and stay straight just because they can and they have just as much fun as everyone else does :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

                Tell them to get a grip or get bent:groucho:

                #1134685
                Raj
                Participant

                  Well done for staying clean for two weeks mate – that a a real achievment cold turkey raaaraaaraaa

                  I think you need new mates though – friends will support you through these rough patches – not actively make them harder :you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy
                  I dont get it though – its no business of theirs whether you do or dont take stuff to go out and party :noway: I have mates who sometimes go out and stay straight just because they can and they have just as much fun as everyone else does :bounce_fl:bounce_fl:bounce_fl

                  Tell them to get a grip or get bent:groucho:

                  #1114374
                  tarifa
                  Participant

                    Hey Ogga, well done mate, it’s tough (but worth it)

                    It can be wierd when givin up regarding mates’ reactions.

                    You’ve got it sussed really, they probably do feel like they’re losing you, and they are right in a way, its not gonna be exactly the same, but things can settle given time

                    Also people can react to a person giving up as a criticism of their own lifestyle/habits. When you’re surrounded by mates doing exactly the same things you’re doing it’s easier to drown out any doubts you may be having. When a party friend gives up it makes those doubts louder, often rasing the volume on issues you don’t really want to face, e.g. I’ve gotta give up

                    All these things can make people understandably negative, its a shame they’re voicing them to you rather than dealing with it in a better way.

                    I wouldn’t write em off just yet, tho can understand why you would appreciate more support. They’re obviously having problems with it but they’re their problems not yours. If in the long run they don’t come round then you really havent lost good mates, but give it a bit of time i would.

                    Good luck, i bin there an its tough but there is life after caning it, an loads of other cool people too! :group_hug

                    #1134691
                    tarifa
                    Participant

                      Hey Ogga, well done mate, it’s tough (but worth it)

                      It can be wierd when givin up regarding mates’ reactions.

                      You’ve got it sussed really, they probably do feel like they’re losing you, and they are right in a way, its not gonna be exactly the same, but things can settle given time

                      Also people can react to a person giving up as a criticism of their own lifestyle/habits. When you’re surrounded by mates doing exactly the same things you’re doing it’s easier to drown out any doubts you may be having. When a party friend gives up it makes those doubts louder, often rasing the volume on issues you don’t really want to face, e.g. I’ve gotta give up

                      All these things can make people understandably negative, its a shame they’re voicing them to you rather than dealing with it in a better way.

                      I wouldn’t write em off just yet, tho can understand why you would appreciate more support. They’re obviously having problems with it but they’re their problems not yours. If in the long run they don’t come round then you really havent lost good mates, but give it a bit of time i would.

                      Good luck, i bin there an its tough but there is life after caning it, an loads of other cool people too! :group_hug

                      #1114370
                      Tank Girl
                      Participant

                        Hey!
                        nice to ‘see’ you!
                        Good on you for making a decision – and shame your not getting support which can make the process easier- I whole heartedly agree with what Tarifa says so I wont repeat it –
                        I had very similar negative statements from friends when I did similar with the illegals – ‘your ill’, ‘you’ll never last’, making bets on time scale, feeling my forhead when I declined offers etc, as I had been well into it – but different responsibilities meant I had to alter certain aspects of my lifestyle – not that I dont have the very occasional hiccup – but…….. they came round and realised what I did or didnt do didnt affect the fun we could have

                        (we’re always here to give you support when needed)

                        take care

                        #1134687
                        Tank Girl
                        Participant

                          Hey!
                          nice to ‘see’ you!
                          Good on you for making a decision – and shame your not getting support which can make the process easier- I whole heartedly agree with what Tarifa says so I wont repeat it –
                          I had very similar negative statements from friends when I did similar with the illegals – ‘your ill’, ‘you’ll never last’, making bets on time scale, feeling my forhead when I declined offers etc, as I had been well into it – but different responsibilities meant I had to alter certain aspects of my lifestyle – not that I dont have the very occasional hiccup – but…….. they came round and realised what I did or didnt do didnt affect the fun we could have

                          (we’re always here to give you support when needed)

                          take care

                          #1114367
                          quietRIOT
                          Participant
                            ogga wrote:
                            hey folks after 5 years of naughtyness i’ve recently given up smoking (weed an the bacci), drinking (cos i tend to work myself up for a blaze afterwards) and pills (cos i mean shit its anything goes after a few beans!)-two weeks down an its been not so bad really, the thing is though…my mates have been dread. okay i understand that they might feel like they’ve lost me in a sense, but still-not only have they been unsupportive, they’ve been like, hurtfull sometimes.now, i’m the kind of chappie that puts himself in other peoples shoes-treat others like you’d like to be treated. man, i’ve been called lame by one, another said i’d not make it a week (and to come an see him with a ten-bit when i fail), boring (only cos im not bunning),stressy and preachy (that was only the once an ive kept it on a short lead). none of the “spot-on lad youve done well” or whatever ive said to other peeps when theyve embarked on the test of tests.they dont understand that this is a turbulant time, and its hard enough without your mates turning against you.i generally ask for nothing in return. but you’d expect your chums to be there for yait just suprised me thats all. before two weeks ago these people were my brothers. now i dont even know if they cut the mustard as my pals.so now i just need some new faces-jus dunno where to lookanyway i just needed to get that off my chest-feel a piece pukka for that!rant over folks-any thoughts?safe

                            i went thru similar a few yrs ago ..when i give up smokin pot an fags….imy freinds dwindled off til i was left with none that smoke dope…
                            i think in life we outgrow some friends and as we are always changing i got to stage where i had nothing in common with them…
                            They stopped coming to my house cos they couldnt smoke and really they did me a favour …
                            you always find out who your freinds are…true frineds are happy for ya and support you ….if they don’t move on leave em behind ……xx

                            #1134684
                            quietRIOT
                            Participant
                              ogga wrote:
                              hey folks after 5 years of naughtyness i’ve recently given up smoking (weed an the bacci), drinking (cos i tend to work myself up for a blaze afterwards) and pills (cos i mean shit its anything goes after a few beans!)-two weeks down an its been not so bad really, the thing is though…my mates have been dread. okay i understand that they might feel like they’ve lost me in a sense, but still-not only have they been unsupportive, they’ve been like, hurtfull sometimes.now, i’m the kind of chappie that puts himself in other peoples shoes-treat others like you’d like to be treated. man, i’ve been called lame by one, another said i’d not make it a week (and to come an see him with a ten-bit when i fail), boring (only cos im not bunning),stressy and preachy (that was only the once an ive kept it on a short lead). none of the “spot-on lad youve done well” or whatever ive said to other peeps when theyve embarked on the test of tests.they dont understand that this is a turbulant time, and its hard enough without your mates turning against you.i generally ask for nothing in return. but you’d expect your chums to be there for yait just suprised me thats all. before two weeks ago these people were my brothers. now i dont even know if they cut the mustard as my pals.so now i just need some new faces-jus dunno where to lookanyway i just needed to get that off my chest-feel a piece pukka for that!rant over folks-any thoughts?safe

                              i went thru similar a few yrs ago ..when i give up smokin pot an fags….imy freinds dwindled off til i was left with none that smoke dope…
                              i think in life we outgrow some friends and as we are always changing i got to stage where i had nothing in common with them…
                              They stopped coming to my house cos they couldnt smoke and really they did me a favour …
                              you always find out who your freinds are…true frineds are happy for ya and support you ….if they don’t move on leave em behind ……xx

                              #1114371
                              ogga
                              Participant

                                hi folks sorry ive been long in bussin a response-this is the fifth time ive tried an to do it an i have to type a sentence at a time and edit
                                so i cant thank you enough for your words you lovelly raver people!!!-at a time like this you see the substance of the people around you. considering your all virtually strangers (or virtual strangers-whatever) it means a lot-really.
                                i agree with all of your words. the buddhists say that suffering makes you stonger. and i’m inclined to agree.
                                tekki, rajcore, GL (get ya rat out!), tank gyal, tarifa an april your all class, your pals are lucky to have you. big up yourselves!
                                i couldnt believe my eyes when i saw all your posts! really made me feel great and happy.
                                spot on people! you really made my day (even if it was the other day!)
                                nuff love an respect goin out to each an all!
                                og out…

                                un
                                deux
                                trois
                                :group_hug
                                :crazy_dru :weee: :crazy_dru
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                                #1134688
                                ogga
                                Participant

                                  hi folks sorry ive been long in bussin a response-this is the fifth time ive tried an to do it an i have to type a sentence at a time and edit
                                  so i cant thank you enough for your words you lovelly raver people!!!-at a time like this you see the substance of the people around you. considering your all virtually strangers (or virtual strangers-whatever) it means a lot-really.
                                  i agree with all of your words. the buddhists say that suffering makes you stonger. and i’m inclined to agree.
                                  tekki, rajcore, GL (get ya rat out!), tank gyal, tarifa an april your all class, your pals are lucky to have you. big up yourselves!
                                  i couldnt believe my eyes when i saw all your posts! really made me feel great and happy.
                                  spot on people! you really made my day (even if it was the other day!)
                                  nuff love an respect goin out to each an all!
                                  og out…

                                  un
                                  deux
                                  trois
                                  :group_hug
                                  :crazy_dru :weee: :crazy_dru
                                  !
                                  #1114369
                                  Raj
                                  Participant

                                    :group_hug:group_hug:group_hug

                                    How is it going for you mate?

                                    #1134686
                                    Raj
                                    Participant

                                      :group_hug:group_hug:group_hug

                                      How is it going for you mate?

                                      #1114375
                                      tarifa
                                      Participant

                                        no problems babe, its amazing how not ‘alone’ we all are

                                        keep smilin :group_hug:group_hug:group_hug:love:

                                        #1134692
                                        tarifa
                                        Participant

                                          no problems babe, its amazing how not ‘alone’ we all are

                                          keep smilin :group_hug:group_hug:group_hug:love:

                                          #1114366
                                          Clang
                                          Participant

                                            No worries mate.

                                            Don’t let the bastards get you down!

                                            #1134683
                                            Clang
                                            Participant

                                              No worries mate.

                                              Don’t let the bastards get you down!

                                              #1114376
                                              rocko
                                              Participant

                                                Keep it going man, i bet its been hard and your mates should be more supportive to you cause it aint an easy ting giving up and that. Keep going i know you can do it.

                                                I mind when i gave up smoking twenty a day, it was hell!!!!!!! but the feeling when you have when you do and when every one is pleased as punch that you have is like no other.

                                                Keep up the good work!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                                #1134693
                                                rocko
                                                Participant

                                                  Keep it going man, i bet its been hard and your mates should be more supportive to you cause it aint an easy ting giving up and that. Keep going i know you can do it.

                                                  I mind when i gave up smoking twenty a day, it was hell!!!!!!! but the feeling when you have when you do and when every one is pleased as punch that you have is like no other.

                                                  Keep up the good work!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

                                                  #1114372
                                                  ogga
                                                  Participant

                                                    sweet m’man sweet!if only i could get paid for it i’d be set!oh yeah an rocko-ta sis!

                                                    #1134689
                                                    ogga
                                                    Participant

                                                      sweet m’man sweet!if only i could get paid for it i’d be set!oh yeah an rocko-ta sis!

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