if you believe in a creator then you believe in God. God is, in the popular conciousness, the creator. science and reason may have cast doubt the method, mechanisms and timescales of traditional creationist belief and religion may have created a personality for God and portrayed a level of personal inimacy between humans and God that is open to question, but these are differences in detail and belief.
I believe that the scientific theories of creationism are just as full of dogma as the religious ones. If we ever do find out all the answers through science i reckon we’ll all be fucked because the few people who are smart enough to know the power of God will be pawns in the game of the powerful ,and as history shows, the knowlegde will be corrupted and used for foul means.
Thanks for the perspective. take care.

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Care to speculate how understanding of life will lead to the powerful currupting the knowledge for foul means?
No offence but that seems a bit like revalations style doom and gloom prophesy with no logical basis to me. Science sure has led to tools of destruction being created but AFAIK it certainly never directly led to corruption in society, so I’m not sure what you are referring to when you say that ‘history shows’ [/quote]

Does read read a bit like a doom and gloom prophecy. i was getting at the fact that the knowledge that scientists discover is often used for purposes other than good or that in the application of science unintended consequences can arise which are devastation or that simply much scientific advancement is driven by the drive to destroy other humans.
past examples would include Hiroshima, nagasaki, sellafeild 1957, Various atomic weapons tests since, chernobyl, global warming, world war 1 and two, modern warfare in general, agent orange, phosphate polution, crude oil pollution, traffic pollution, plastic waste, oceanic rubbish, depleated uranium shells, land mines, household effluents, industrial effluents, etc etc.
As scientific understanding gets more advanced so does the potention for things to go wrong. It is not scientists who have control of the discoveries that they make or the application of those discoveries, it is the politic or other rich powerful and often morally corrupt people.
I’m not anti-science. I’m just sceptical of the ability of the human race to put scientific discoveries to good use and avoid the continuous stream of problems scientific discovey seems to leave in its wake.

you probably know all about Chernobyl, from your degree. if you don’t you should watch this video.

The True Battle of Chernobyl Uncensored

where is the next dissaster going to come from. does it have its roots in the LHC perhaps?