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July 12, 2007 at 5:59 pm #1041880
on psyforum massive debate…
http://www.psy-forum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=56247July 13, 2007 at 1:54 pm #1116342rather annoying to be honest when a psylabel fills the line-up of their biggest U.K. event with non-psychedelic acts
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July 13, 2007 at 1:54 pm #1136995rather annoying to be honest when a psylabel fills the line-up of their biggest U.K. event with non-psychedelic acts
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July 13, 2007 at 1:59 pm #1116343this is from festival weather …
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What an absolute JOKE antiworld was!!! I have joined a forum specifically to rant and will be joining many more as I am so pissed of with the total shambolic fantasists festival (if you can call it that). Line up- do they know what that is and what it is to honour it?? Were they completely Naive or complete fantasists? What was with the flyer???Did you know that the artists were not told until Friday that they were not going to get paid and some weren’t even told. I think they thought that DJ’s would be jumping at the chance of wasting their time and playing to a load of crusty jugglers!!!! Who were there for the psy trance. Don’t organise something that you can’t pull through with you complete imbeciles. I could feel sorry for you when you lose your houses and go bankrupt but really this is the price you pay for treating people like fools. Keep your mo fo psy trance in the fields or more appropriately a land fill dump!!!!
But what most annoyed me was the organisation back stage. The stage managers/organisers/promoters so high on K it was dribbling down their nostrils and unable to speak- just kind of rant. They had no clue as to what acts were going to turn up as they were in their tents getting high!!!! They didn’t try to appease the DJ’s who had turned up out of the kindness of their hearts for the music, for the people who had paid £100 for a ticket. NO no- one came to meet them, apologies, get them some drinks tickets; try and work stuff out- THEY DIDN’T EVEN BOTHER TO LISTEN TO THEM!!!! They were just completely arrogant c**ts. If your going to be part of the organisation you at least stay straight- is this not just polite etiquette??? There was meant to be drum and bass and a whole array of other stuff other then WHACK psy trance!!!So I would like to say thank you to all the DJ’s who did bother to come for the people and the music. All the peeps who made the day time just about bearable with something other than trance.
DEATH TO ANTI WORLD!!!! – that’s a shit name too!!!!
God damn I think I would have enjoyed LIVE EARTH more!!!!!!!!”
seems like anti-world didnt do a good job but to be honest ive been to many of their parties and they’ve been top … deary deary me
July 13, 2007 at 1:59 pm #1136996this is from festival weather …
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What an absolute JOKE antiworld was!!! I have joined a forum specifically to rant and will be joining many more as I am so pissed of with the total shambolic fantasists festival (if you can call it that). Line up- do they know what that is and what it is to honour it?? Were they completely Naive or complete fantasists? What was with the flyer???Did you know that the artists were not told until Friday that they were not going to get paid and some weren’t even told. I think they thought that DJ’s would be jumping at the chance of wasting their time and playing to a load of crusty jugglers!!!! Who were there for the psy trance. Don’t organise something that you can’t pull through with you complete imbeciles. I could feel sorry for you when you lose your houses and go bankrupt but really this is the price you pay for treating people like fools. Keep your mo fo psy trance in the fields or more appropriately a land fill dump!!!!
But what most annoyed me was the organisation back stage. The stage managers/organisers/promoters so high on K it was dribbling down their nostrils and unable to speak- just kind of rant. They had no clue as to what acts were going to turn up as they were in their tents getting high!!!! They didn’t try to appease the DJ’s who had turned up out of the kindness of their hearts for the music, for the people who had paid £100 for a ticket. NO no- one came to meet them, apologies, get them some drinks tickets; try and work stuff out- THEY DIDN’T EVEN BOTHER TO LISTEN TO THEM!!!! They were just completely arrogant c**ts. If your going to be part of the organisation you at least stay straight- is this not just polite etiquette??? There was meant to be drum and bass and a whole array of other stuff other then WHACK psy trance!!!So I would like to say thank you to all the DJ’s who did bother to come for the people and the music. All the peeps who made the day time just about bearable with something other than trance.
DEATH TO ANTI WORLD!!!! – that’s a shit name too!!!!
God damn I think I would have enjoyed LIVE EARTH more!!!!!!!!”
seems like anti-world didnt do a good job but to be honest ive been to many of their parties and they’ve been top … deary deary me
July 13, 2007 at 3:42 pm #1116344Can someone explain with a bit more clarity what actually happened here?
July 13, 2007 at 3:42 pm #1136997Can someone explain with a bit more clarity what actually happened here?
July 13, 2007 at 4:18 pm #1116341Rocko, this is from the HarderFaster forums…. so glad I didn’t waste money and go.
Before I slag the thing off completely, I did enjoy the time I had at the 2 days that were open. The music I got to see was top notch, the sound system was fantastic, a great vibe, great weather, some good choices of stalls.
But – run by a complete bunch of fuckheads. Got there 8am on the Friday and had to wait an hour and a half to get in, because the girl who had the wrist bands and got herself completely wankered the night before and noone could find her. Nice. The ticketmaster woman did much the same.
You were told to bring no booze, only to find out that actually you could take in 8 cans per day when you got there.
My favourite bit – no dj set times anywhere.
Sweet. Its not like I came to this specifically to see certain Djs or anything.
(eventually a couple of the tents put some up, but not til way later.)Half the tents cancelled. Clearly had been for days at least, but of course they werent going to tell the punters that. Shades of Wildchild organisation there. So half the DJs you wanted to see weren’t there.
Lousy camping facilities.
The music had to be turned down to barely audible after midnight as it was too loud otherwise. I loved the look on Christopher Lawrence (one of the biggest DJs in the world no?) face when he was told thats how loud he had to play.
Thed cutting the festival a day short cos of environmental reasons, hacking off 1/3 of the DJs that were left of the original 50% that should have been playing.
Environmental? Really? how come then, when we were chatting to a barman on the Saturday he said “I dont think we will be open tomorrow”.Making the Stewarding jobs a voluntary thing, rather than paid staff, was a great idea as it meant everyone was there to get wankered, meaning all the stewards were off their face.
Perfect.35 foot inflatables on the live stage? Really? I saw a 6ft green dragon fly. Big fucking deal.
Seriously, I could go on and on and on about how poorly put together this was, but I’ll put as much effort into this as they put into organising it and stop now.
The bloke who put it together claims he spent 3 years organising it. I would suggest about 3 weeks of that was organising, the rest of it he spent in a corner somewhere in a jibbering off his tits way.
A massive goes to Nu Nrg collective for the set of the weekend for me, utterly breathtaking relentless hard trance. Shame about the lousy MCing over the top though.
John Askew and Eskimo coming in a very close 2nd.
Nice to meet so many great people who, like I, didn’t let the shambolic efforts of Antiworld ruin the fun they could have.
I only hope all the people who were so fucked off with all the nonsense choose not to go next year so that they dont make the money, cant run it and waste anyone elses time.
July 13, 2007 at 4:18 pm #1136994Rocko, this is from the HarderFaster forums…. so glad I didn’t waste money and go.
Before I slag the thing off completely, I did enjoy the time I had at the 2 days that were open. The music I got to see was top notch, the sound system was fantastic, a great vibe, great weather, some good choices of stalls.
But – run by a complete bunch of fuckheads. Got there 8am on the Friday and had to wait an hour and a half to get in, because the girl who had the wrist bands and got herself completely wankered the night before and noone could find her. Nice. The ticketmaster woman did much the same.
You were told to bring no booze, only to find out that actually you could take in 8 cans per day when you got there.
My favourite bit – no dj set times anywhere.
Sweet. Its not like I came to this specifically to see certain Djs or anything.
(eventually a couple of the tents put some up, but not til way later.)Half the tents cancelled. Clearly had been for days at least, but of course they werent going to tell the punters that. Shades of Wildchild organisation there. So half the DJs you wanted to see weren’t there.
Lousy camping facilities.
The music had to be turned down to barely audible after midnight as it was too loud otherwise. I loved the look on Christopher Lawrence (one of the biggest DJs in the world no?) face when he was told thats how loud he had to play.
Thed cutting the festival a day short cos of environmental reasons, hacking off 1/3 of the DJs that were left of the original 50% that should have been playing.
Environmental? Really? how come then, when we were chatting to a barman on the Saturday he said “I dont think we will be open tomorrow”.Making the Stewarding jobs a voluntary thing, rather than paid staff, was a great idea as it meant everyone was there to get wankered, meaning all the stewards were off their face.
Perfect.35 foot inflatables on the live stage? Really? I saw a 6ft green dragon fly. Big fucking deal.
Seriously, I could go on and on and on about how poorly put together this was, but I’ll put as much effort into this as they put into organising it and stop now.
The bloke who put it together claims he spent 3 years organising it. I would suggest about 3 weeks of that was organising, the rest of it he spent in a corner somewhere in a jibbering off his tits way.
A massive goes to Nu Nrg collective for the set of the weekend for me, utterly breathtaking relentless hard trance. Shame about the lousy MCing over the top though.
John Askew and Eskimo coming in a very close 2nd.
Nice to meet so many great people who, like I, didn’t let the shambolic efforts of Antiworld ruin the fun they could have.
I only hope all the people who were so fucked off with all the nonsense choose not to go next year so that they dont make the money, cant run it and waste anyone elses time.
July 14, 2007 at 2:12 pm #1116345Oooof! Doesn’t sound good. Heard really good things about Antiworld in the past as well. Think there may have been a few people on another forum I visit going, I’ll need to see what they have to say.
July 14, 2007 at 2:12 pm #1136998Oooof! Doesn’t sound good. Heard really good things about Antiworld in the past as well. Think there may have been a few people on another forum I visit going, I’ll need to see what they have to say.
July 14, 2007 at 2:52 pm #1116340ok from myspace…..Statement from Antiworld regarding 070707 Open Air FestivalAntiworld and ES Collective would like to apologise to all festival goers, artists and crew who attended last weekend’s 070707 Festival at Rushmore Arena and thank them for their support and understanding. We are very sorry about the early closure of the festival and the problems that occurred. We’re going to try and address some of your concerns below as we are well aware that there’s more than a few rumours being spread and we would prefer that people know the truth.
The festival opened around two hours late on Thursday afternoon after passing all its health and safety checks. We were scheduled to open at 3 pm but gates finally opened at 5 pm after a later fire inspection took longer than anticipated. We apologise to the people waiting at 3 pm, but we could only wait until the council carried out their vital checks to ensure the site was safe.
On Saturday at 2.45 pm the company responsible for waste disposal pumped raw sewage into a pipe near the top of the festival site. We would like to stress that this company had been paid a substantial deposit to provide the portaloos around the site and dispose of the waste at a facility nearby, and given their many years of experience at other major UK festivals, there was absolutely no reason to doubt their ability, nor that they would take shortcuts. Unfortunately however the pipe the sewage was pumped into exploded and the sewage surfaced in the backstage area, specifically the artist and crew kitchen and catering area, which was immediately shut by the council.
On Saturday evening we managed to deal with this situation by arranging meals for artists and crew through the various stalls on the site, and with so many of the public already on site waiting for the main headliners, the decision was taken that it was too dangerous to evacuate at this time with little or no public transport and not much chance of it being safe for people to drive. We’d like to thank all that helped out here, especially the Veggedelic stall who saved the day and provided great wholesome food throughout and all the other crew who did more than their fair share. We can only apologise for the stress and extra work this caused. We appreciate that you all worked far more than had been agreed and will be in touch with you individually about your refunds. We would like crew to know that we had actually spent thousands of pounds on food and supplies to get us all through the festival, but due to regulations we could not actually cook or start fires on the site ourselves once the kitchen had been closed.
By Sunday it was evident that we couldn’t feed all the crew and the environmental health issues were growing. There were concerns that if it rained the sewage would get into the water table and contaminate the festival area, putting the health of festival goers, artists and crew at risk. The festival was closed around midday on Sunday after a council inspection showed that there was no way that the environmental safety issues could be resolved in the time we had left. We couldn’t feed the crew we had left and the medics had walked thanks to the health and safety issues, so the police recommended we close the site or else they would be forced to take further action. However with so many party-goers still in festival mode it was impossible to evacuate the entire area in a hurry, although we couldn’t start cleaning up or doing any work until the public were off the site.
If we hadn’t shut when we did Skazi and Talamasca would have played. They were waiting and were just as disappointed as the rest of us that they didn’t get to play in the end. Whether artists play or not, they still need their flights and hotels paid and it’s a long way for so many of these artists to come and sit in a hotel room.
Another point that should be addressed is that we placed too much expectation on our ticket sales when planning the festival. Originally our plan was to stage a 5,000 capacity camping festival, but we then found out it needed to be bigger if wanted to use the awesome Rushmoor Arena site. The licence was granted for 15,000 campers — another mistake, because there was no possible way for Antiworld to sell that many tickets in today’s current climate, despite the great efforts of the many promoters, artists and crew.
By April 2007 sales were still slow and the festival should have been cancelled and tickets refunded, but we still felt we could move forward with the help of sponsorship and more advance sales. By June 2007 sales were steady but not in the numbers we had hoped and sponsors were not available due to commitments made to other festivals. By this time, we had spent a lot of money in advertising and in fees toward artists to secure the dates. Many of the artists who didn’t turn up to perform had already received 50% of their fees in advance but decided not to turn up because the remaining 50% due had not cleared into their account on time. We know this was also a big disappointment for some of those who came to the festival hoping to see a favourite act; again we can only apologise.
After years of planning and preparation we are devastated by the outcome and can only apologise to the many festival goers, artists and crew who were as sorely disappointed as we are after losing out on the final seven or so hours of the festival. We’re also aware that there were some organisational problems with the festival itself and due to there being lower numbers than expected, some artists and stages were cancelled. The cancellation of the stages/artists was down to agreements between the specific artists and promotions involved: as explained above, deposits had been paid.
We’d like to thank the council for making sure the festival opened in the first place and for helping us provide a safe yet beautiful venue for people to party in. We all had the welfare of festival goers at heart and did our best to make sure things were as safe as possible at all times, especially given the extreme recent weather conditions. We’d also like to thank the police for their help closing the festival on Sunday afternoon. Closing a busy festival at its peak was always going to be a challenge and the police made sure festival goers and crew were informed and able to stay on site until they were ready to move — leading to many saying that Sunday was their best night of the festival, with so many groups of chilled out festival goers and crew making the most of their time left.
Most of all though, we’d like to thank the 5000 party-goers, artists and crew that made this such an incredible event. Yes there were a few things that went wrong, and the people involved will be contacted over the next couple of weeks to discuss their individual situations and try and make amends. Overall however the crowd, site, stages, music and production were fantastic.
We hope that festival-goers, artists and crew and anyone else who has suffered as a result of this event to please bear with us over this difficult time and ask you to please understand that we are not doing this for the money: we have lost everything — the income from many successful events, years worth of planning and hard work and any goodwill we may have built up over the years from party goers, artists and by no means least, our crew.
Please direct any feedback to [URL=”http://e303power@hotmail.com/”%5De303power@hotmail.com[/URL] or 0779 321 9497. Don’t call or leave a message but text and we’ll get back to you over the next couple of weeks. We need to hear your suggestions and concerns, especially if anyone has any video footage of the waste that ultimately led to the site being closed as we will need as much evidence as possible for our legal proceedings.
July 14, 2007 at 2:52 pm #1136993ok from myspace…..Statement from Antiworld regarding 070707 Open Air FestivalAntiworld and ES Collective would like to apologise to all festival goers, artists and crew who attended last weekend’s 070707 Festival at Rushmore Arena and thank them for their support and understanding. We are very sorry about the early closure of the festival and the problems that occurred. We’re going to try and address some of your concerns below as we are well aware that there’s more than a few rumours being spread and we would prefer that people know the truth.
The festival opened around two hours late on Thursday afternoon after passing all its health and safety checks. We were scheduled to open at 3 pm but gates finally opened at 5 pm after a later fire inspection took longer than anticipated. We apologise to the people waiting at 3 pm, but we could only wait until the council carried out their vital checks to ensure the site was safe.
On Saturday at 2.45 pm the company responsible for waste disposal pumped raw sewage into a pipe near the top of the festival site. We would like to stress that this company had been paid a substantial deposit to provide the portaloos around the site and dispose of the waste at a facility nearby, and given their many years of experience at other major UK festivals, there was absolutely no reason to doubt their ability, nor that they would take shortcuts. Unfortunately however the pipe the sewage was pumped into exploded and the sewage surfaced in the backstage area, specifically the artist and crew kitchen and catering area, which was immediately shut by the council.
On Saturday evening we managed to deal with this situation by arranging meals for artists and crew through the various stalls on the site, and with so many of the public already on site waiting for the main headliners, the decision was taken that it was too dangerous to evacuate at this time with little or no public transport and not much chance of it being safe for people to drive. We’d like to thank all that helped out here, especially the Veggedelic stall who saved the day and provided great wholesome food throughout and all the other crew who did more than their fair share. We can only apologise for the stress and extra work this caused. We appreciate that you all worked far more than had been agreed and will be in touch with you individually about your refunds. We would like crew to know that we had actually spent thousands of pounds on food and supplies to get us all through the festival, but due to regulations we could not actually cook or start fires on the site ourselves once the kitchen had been closed.
By Sunday it was evident that we couldn’t feed all the crew and the environmental health issues were growing. There were concerns that if it rained the sewage would get into the water table and contaminate the festival area, putting the health of festival goers, artists and crew at risk. The festival was closed around midday on Sunday after a council inspection showed that there was no way that the environmental safety issues could be resolved in the time we had left. We couldn’t feed the crew we had left and the medics had walked thanks to the health and safety issues, so the police recommended we close the site or else they would be forced to take further action. However with so many party-goers still in festival mode it was impossible to evacuate the entire area in a hurry, although we couldn’t start cleaning up or doing any work until the public were off the site.
If we hadn’t shut when we did Skazi and Talamasca would have played. They were waiting and were just as disappointed as the rest of us that they didn’t get to play in the end. Whether artists play or not, they still need their flights and hotels paid and it’s a long way for so many of these artists to come and sit in a hotel room.
Another point that should be addressed is that we placed too much expectation on our ticket sales when planning the festival. Originally our plan was to stage a 5,000 capacity camping festival, but we then found out it needed to be bigger if wanted to use the awesome Rushmoor Arena site. The licence was granted for 15,000 campers — another mistake, because there was no possible way for Antiworld to sell that many tickets in today’s current climate, despite the great efforts of the many promoters, artists and crew.
By April 2007 sales were still slow and the festival should have been cancelled and tickets refunded, but we still felt we could move forward with the help of sponsorship and more advance sales. By June 2007 sales were steady but not in the numbers we had hoped and sponsors were not available due to commitments made to other festivals. By this time, we had spent a lot of money in advertising and in fees toward artists to secure the dates. Many of the artists who didn’t turn up to perform had already received 50% of their fees in advance but decided not to turn up because the remaining 50% due had not cleared into their account on time. We know this was also a big disappointment for some of those who came to the festival hoping to see a favourite act; again we can only apologise.
After years of planning and preparation we are devastated by the outcome and can only apologise to the many festival goers, artists and crew who were as sorely disappointed as we are after losing out on the final seven or so hours of the festival. We’re also aware that there were some organisational problems with the festival itself and due to there being lower numbers than expected, some artists and stages were cancelled. The cancellation of the stages/artists was down to agreements between the specific artists and promotions involved: as explained above, deposits had been paid.
We’d like to thank the council for making sure the festival opened in the first place and for helping us provide a safe yet beautiful venue for people to party in. We all had the welfare of festival goers at heart and did our best to make sure things were as safe as possible at all times, especially given the extreme recent weather conditions. We’d also like to thank the police for their help closing the festival on Sunday afternoon. Closing a busy festival at its peak was always going to be a challenge and the police made sure festival goers and crew were informed and able to stay on site until they were ready to move — leading to many saying that Sunday was their best night of the festival, with so many groups of chilled out festival goers and crew making the most of their time left.
Most of all though, we’d like to thank the 5000 party-goers, artists and crew that made this such an incredible event. Yes there were a few things that went wrong, and the people involved will be contacted over the next couple of weeks to discuss their individual situations and try and make amends. Overall however the crowd, site, stages, music and production were fantastic.
We hope that festival-goers, artists and crew and anyone else who has suffered as a result of this event to please bear with us over this difficult time and ask you to please understand that we are not doing this for the money: we have lost everything — the income from many successful events, years worth of planning and hard work and any goodwill we may have built up over the years from party goers, artists and by no means least, our crew.
Please direct any feedback to [URL=”http://e303power@hotmail.com/”%5De303power@hotmail.com[/URL] or 0779 321 9497. Don’t call or leave a message but text and we’ll get back to you over the next couple of weeks. We need to hear your suggestions and concerns, especially if anyone has any video footage of the waste that ultimately led to the site being closed as we will need as much evidence as possible for our legal proceedings.
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