In an ideal world yeah. Unfortunately the dance music scene (like most other musical genres) is built around arse kissing and “who you know, not what you know”

@JamZandwich 413448 wrote:

Surely technical skill and musical understanding is the most important part? I have no doubt i could please even the biggest crowds of ravers given the chance.

Not really.

Just make sure you are playing better tunes than anyone else.

wheres this mix then ol jeff????

@AGENT 15 414738 wrote:

You definitely need to work on your promotion , you have three people asking you for mixes in one thread . SORT IT OUT MAN ! ;o)

was thinking that yesterday when i logged on and had no pm’s with mixes!

get your mixes out! if there good we will host them on the website

@JamZandwich 415140 wrote:

sorry guys – my left CDJ is in for repair at the moment!! I Have the tracklisting and everything sorted out, it’s annoying as hell as soon as I get my CDj back working I will record 2 mixes so please bear with me 😉

Cheers,
Jam

ahhh was wondering what happened to you! whats your track listing looking like then? get my juices going! :weee:

you just upload your mix

@Minghead 415142 wrote:

i dislike cdj’s emensly!

just thought id put that out there!

I second that!
When using CDJs, ther is a certain lack of skill involved. Also you cant mix your tunes properly just by looking at the track, coz u cant see it, its on a cd. With vinyl you can see the pattern of the tune and mix your tunes together in so many ways.
Not saying CDJs are easy to mix on, but the majority of people who use em dont mix properly. I was at a BIG event in a club this weekend with 6 sound systems and they were all using CDJs (and vinyl but not much at all), i think i heard about 2 tunes mixed together for the whole 9 hours. The rest were stopped and played pretty much every time, and 3 or 4 djs managed to push the wrong RPM button on their “PHAT” pioneer CDJs that they dont know how to use properly. Pisses me off when you see DJs playing shit at events where they get paid and you know you can mix better than that and you just hav to stand and listen to them.

Anyways, a good way to get sets at parties is to do wot your doing now on this forum, and also get into music production, make your own tunes and spam record labels with “the freshest techno to see the light of day this year” or sumthing along those lines. You get the idea realy, play phat tunes, play them well, make sure people hear them, dont give up, and you will get to play out at events sooner or later.

@Tocooltom 418281 wrote:

The rest were stopped and played pretty much every time, and 3 or 4 djs managed to push the wrong RPM button on their “PHAT” pioneer CDJs that they dont know how to use properly. Pisses me off when you see DJs playing shit at events where they get paid and you know you can mix better than that and you just hav to stand and listen to them.

dude thats nothing to do with technology, it was going on 20 years ago at raves when vinyl was the main format

When people end up turning a “fun/creative” activity into a career it eventually becomes more stressful than real work due to the envy and intense competition, so they get bored and jaded. I learned this 10 years ago when I was working as an engineer in the TV industry.

Even today, I have been looking at a new computer but I would rather buy a boxed one from a supplier than bother building it from scratch like I once would have done, as I do 60+ hour weeks keeping the damn things working in offices.!

I do have some nostalgia for analogue audio formats, particularly because of my age, but in reality times have changed.

its a double-edged sword – digital equipment culture has vastly reduced the entry cost into music making but its also wiped out a lot of the revenue streams for content sales and paying jobs for those involved, so there isn’t as much money in the entire music scene as their once was (especially as feds are more harsh about people trying to launder drugs money through it!)

with regard to the business side of things, the clock can’t be turned back and we have to live with it, but when I pick up a electronics catalogue like CPC/Farnell which once would have been full mostly of components and office/industrial gear and it is packed full of music production equipment, I can’t really see any cause for complaint..

@Tocooltom 418302 wrote:

I wasnt blaming the technology tbh mate, i was just pointing out that DJs use their expensive equipment badly, and theres DJs using their old and battered decks and still ripping it up.

Fair enuf the standard gear has moved on to CDJs because there are more possibilities with the digital format, but it would be nice if DJs could use their CDJs like they use vinyl.

what I also meant was in the 1990s there was just as many name DJ’s playing shit but using vinyl (there being no other formats in existence) because they were already bored/jaded with the industry and trading on their names whilst you’d sometimes hear better sets at free parties (which is why a lot of us got into this scene).

Also its a wider issue with dumbing down/too much drugs that many people don’t bother to learn how to use their equipment (the digital stuff is actually quite complicated!) and those who do can often get better real paying day jobs in IT companies which reduces the time they have for creative stuff..

I am surprised myself at how prevelant CDJs and digital formats have become in recent years but a lot of this is because vinyl and associated equipment is now niche equipment and becoming more expensive whilst computers are found everywhere.

yes vinyl will stay, people of my parents generation collect 78 rpm records and folk still listen to amplifiers with electronic valves in them and tape recorders with spools of tape but its not as common as the digital stuff and the equipment/media is expensive and harder to find.