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December 26, 2006 at 1:02 am #1040138
anyone know anything about it….. im into sustainable living non polution etc… im interested in shamanism and psycadelic type spiritual belief…. im trying to figure out some way of living where i can do all this is an unpersicuted way and with people with the same ideas…. anyone else like the idea, have any opinions or know anyone i should be talking to? well random for a party forum i know but i really have NO clue as to who to talk to etc about this kinda shiz.
peace
jackDecember 26, 2006 at 1:15 am #1096757no reason why this can’t be discussed on this forum as well – as in the 90s the Exodus collective tried to merge party lifestyles and communal living not too far away from where you live now..
Exodus fucked up as unfortunately some of the collective could not control their own individual egos and desires.
its not as easy as just putting on a rave though; people need to work with each other and trust each other for more than just a drug-filled weekend!
OTOH there are various communities and groups of people already doing this sort of stuff – the bulk of them are for some reason in SW, and Northern England as well as Scotland…
I definitely think we need more people thinking like this and working together in SE and Eastern England. It was actually a part of the underground rave scene in the late 1990s; although the focus on it has been lost slightly in the 21st century…
I don’t think it immediately means people have to live all in the same space (although they can share it for a lot of their lives) but also means people genuinely working together to support each other and help each other out through life..
it already happens to an extent with the better organised rave crews…
try this place for more in depth discussion about communal living as well…
December 26, 2006 at 1:26 am #1096762cheers man much appreciated, do you know any of the communes (if thats what u wanna call it) names so i can try n find them? the website u gave me wont let me on the forum cuz i siggned up and need to activate my account but the activation hasnt arrived.
peace
December 26, 2006 at 1:38 am #1096763never mind thats sorted it was just in my junk folder… i didnt realise you were a mod on both… a diverse man you are.
December 26, 2006 at 1:52 am #1096758was quite a random thing…. mystery-t who posts here sometimes (and may be in your area!) put up a link to a van he had converted..
I followed it to look at the van, and then started reading a lot of the other threads and posting on the site; it then happened that they needed a couple of extra mods and I already knew how the forums/software worked as its the same software used on partyvibe…
December 26, 2006 at 2:44 am #1096767I’ve been interested in this sorta thing for a while. Thanks for the link GL some interesting stuff on that site. I particularly like http://bodeswell.atspace.com/just%20a%20tent/images/DSCN3343.JPG #
Looks lovely. I would imagine that it doesn’t contravene planning regulations, as long as you aren’t living there for more than 27 days a year that they can prove. Which is interesting. I’m sure you could live there nearly 365 without too many legal issues as long as you keep it quiet.. Not entirely sure tho. I was looking into buying a bit of land next to a canal and living on a boat there, with a little veg garden etc.. still need some cash for shit like water board fee’s etc, which is a shame.. i think its pretty near impossable to be fully self sustainable unless you have a substantial amount of money to invest or which can provide a income.
December 26, 2006 at 2:56 am #1096764that place sounds lovely… im jealous to the extream. so mustard is it a kind a thing u know much about or are u just interested like me…. i have nothing to invest which is a problem…. unfortunatly. people shouldnt own things.
December 26, 2006 at 2:57 am #1096765i wonder if there is still any ‘no mans land; in the UK
December 26, 2006 at 4:10 am #1096760I used to live on a protest site which is basically an “anarchist” commune.
In that the only writtten rule its no violence. From there any other problems were delt with by the community and a majority vote was required to pass any decisions.
We were, and still are, there to stop a motorway, which is our common link. Anyhow I’ll go into it more when I’m sober about it.
December 27, 2006 at 6:27 pm #1096766you used to live in herts and ur only 18, what do you do with urself now? where is this commune your talking about if its still there?
peace
December 28, 2006 at 12:17 am #1096761I never lived in Herts. I’m from Scotland.
I’m currently at university studying classical literature, classical archaeology and latin. Staying on a protest site wasn’t exactly compatable with the workload of uni so I left and got a flat.
I have to explain that, while a protest site is an example of communal living, it is not a typical commune. The people who live together may share many common beliefs but the reason they are there is as a last line of defence against the destruction of, in this case, an ancient woodland. Most time should be spent building defences for when eviction comes but on Bilston, the site I was staying on, a lot of work is also put out into community outreach prohects as well as conservation work on the forest.
Anyhow I’m getting sidetracked, living in a commune is great some times, but others it can be complete hell. As there is no specific rules sometimes people’s idea of what is ok and what isn’t varies so it can be quite a chore to find a suitable compromise. Obviously this is more so on a protest site all some people have in common is their desire to protect the woods and in your average commune it tends to be people of a similar mindset.
I loved living at one with nature….I mean you don’t get much closer to nature than living in a treehouse with nesting birds on your windowsill. I also really enjoyed the way that no one was in charge yet the place has ticked over for four years only twice having to call in outside help to deal with trouble.If you are interested in the idea of communal living go for it, I fully intend to go back to site whether Bilston or another similar cause. Although I would leap at the chance of living somewhere similar without the pressure of building defences and constant eviction threat.
Anyhow I don’t know if anything above is any use….its been typed in about 6 sittings as I have very wasted people round. Anyhow if theres anything more specific you want to know then give us a shout ather than me just rambling as I do so have a habit of doing.
I loved living on site and fully intend to return during my summer holidays whether to Bilston or another similar cause elsewhere.
January 6, 2007 at 2:10 am #1096768I looked into Faslane, talked to some guy at the CND stand when I was at the party conference protest. Was thinking about popping up for the 365 blockade thingy (http://www.faslane365.org/) and checking out the site for a couple of days sometime in the summer.
” that place sounds lovely… im jealous to the extream. so mustard is it a kind a thing u know much about or are u just interested like me…. i have nothing to invest which is a problem…. unfortunatly. people shouldnt own things. “
I don’t know a whole lot about this no, but been fairly interested for a while. Got a bit of money in the bank for a house deposit or some such, thing is I could buy a Nice bit of land outright and live in the country with that, which is alot more attractive than a massive morgage on a shitty little flat in some city.
I’m studing to be a surveyor, and so I have done a fair amount of work on planning regs etc. Its pretty hard to get away with much legally if you want any sort of perminant structure, Esp in the country which is where land is cheap, woodland, farmland, pasture etc sell from £4k an acre or whatever, building land for development can go for up (and over) a million an acre.I like the look of tipi valley. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/professionals/en/1096909005894.html
January 6, 2007 at 2:23 am #1096756AnonymousLived on travelers sites for best part of 10 years in busses trucks ect. Best days of my life I’d go for that option if there are still any in the uk. They also know how to party.
Hippy comunes tend to be full of ideologicals with no grasp of the real world with no sence of humour who are just nazis with long hair :weee: :weee:
January 6, 2007 at 1:26 pm #1096759the obvious fundamental problem with most of these communes is that if the property is acquired via the market, some people have to commit to the mortgage etc and a hierarchy will inevitably develop with those having a greater commercial stake in the place feeling they should have more control – whatever the “constitution” of these places is.
Urban / suburban squats can be good as well (Exodus evolved from this) but these days holding a building can be hard as so many locals just grass you up and keep complaining to the Police (seems many would rather see a building rot than people occupy it for “free) :rant:
if you are all party people nowadays you can use the squat/site as a base for planning stuff but these days never party your actual home location if you want to keep it…
Laws changed in 2002 or so and parties are now classed as “anti-social behaviour” which can be used for grounds for evicting a squat/site, overriding the “human rights”/”emergency housin” aspect.. A squat or site which doesn’t draw attention to itself is still left alone to an extent..
Also if 90% of you want a party and 10% don’t that can split a community very quickly (particularly if it does result in eviction…)
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