I have never learnt to drive a car properly, not on the road anyway. I can drive a tractor round a field and thats about it. I would like to think that I am being green or something, but basically I have never needed one. I dont like cars anyway. I hate the whole ‘car culture’ crap. Too many makes, too many people making too much money, too many wankers like Clarkson etc. Too many wanker car salespeople. I feel lke a second class citizen when I have to give way. Why should I? None of the bastards indicate anymore. I’m supposed to mind read which way they are going. I hate the change that comes over people when they climb into their little ‘cocoon’ and drown out the rest of the planet with their toss rap, hip-hop or even more annoying 80’s rock or worse. The car has taken over, its such a shame.
People think it is freedom having a car
freedom from what, walking? I believe it is one of the most selfish things to do and its just slavery by the petrol companies and the govt. are laughing all the way to the bank of england-all that lovely tax money!

Just blag the train or bus or cycle or walk.

TTFN Dambo:alien_abd :alien_abd :alien_abd

dambo23 – I see what you mean… and have already said much the same in the previous post; and I wholly agree with a lot of the stuff about car culture.

TBH if I owned one it would just be another thing to worry about (damage, theft, keeping it away from the scum who nick and burn out cars here just out of envy) – it wouldn’t make me more of a man or anything like that.

but isn’t there a dilemma here with raves?

It is not easy to carry appreciable amounts of audio equipment on bicycle trailers (OTOH some mini-rigs have indeed been brought on to a site that way!)

People want to make a lot noise and that requires heavy stuff which is normally brought to the rave site in motor vehicles. Also although I am no Bradley Wiggins or Lance Armstrong, few others are prepared to cycle to a rave and then back again

In many cases the people who do drive end up subsidising those who do not (even if they charge petrol money there’s the depreciation, wear and tear). Also as I mentioned it is very easy to lose your license or have your vehicle taken off by cops if things go wrong at a rave. Thats one hell of a risk for people to take. A couple years ago I was well up for getting a van as soon as I had got my license then I realised the risk and costs involved…

I often feel guilty about this; I don’t often like asking people for lifts for this reason and if it means I can’t get to parties now because they are becoming increasingly held further away then I have to accept that.

OTOH I am always prepared to pay petrol money and just because I am not legally supposed to be driving cars doesn’t mean that I do not know how they work and can help with fixing them or adding accessories such as stereos, extra lights etc.

But how do we deal with the rave dilemma? However we look at it it can be argued that these events generate a lot of extra and non-essential traffic particularly as they are being forced into remote areas…

Having spent (too much) time in places like Basildon, Colchester and Walton-on-the-Naze in previous years I have to agree…

peugeot 205 , love em to bits. tho i only just started havin lessons now that i can afford them

My first car was a Renault 5, followed by a Renault Clio.

I will never buy a Renault again.

I am currently driving an Astra but my next car is gonna be a Civic Type R.

i’ve got a peugeout 205 with a tuned mi16 engine fitted, stupidly quick (0-60 5.2s) has cost me 4k to tune/repair in 18months and is……broken again! has to be the most unreliable car i have ever owned, but i wouldnt swap it for the world. must be fookin stupid in the head to keep on with it.:crazy_fre

sticker was meant to be in for a month, rekn its gonna become a permanent feature the way it munches through engines.
and i had this for a second run around, sold it and now its gettin sunny!
was nicknamed ‘the pimpwagon’ by my mates, also completely unreliable, constantly refusing to start, roof never leaked tho.

I drive an old blue mini. It is my little baby, my pride and joy!

oh btw frankie butler…..yum 😀

Yeah but the AA doesn’t..

For my £40 membership, they got me and my fiat panda back from Newquay to Surrey when the gearbox fell out after some hungover off roading.

And I got to get fucked in the back of several AA vehicles (many transfers) – and managed to blag the driver into putting a DnB tape on loud, while flashing the emergency lights and ragging it, nout better than that on a few :bigsmile: ‘s !!

you get at least four free repairs/recoveries a year on any car you are in [not just the car you use most or own]