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January 19, 2008 at 3:18 pm #1043431Allo guys..
My doctor has helped me get a load of recording equipment (in exchange for me leading a project to set up a music room for the psychiatric ward in my local hospital)Does anyone have any suggestions for equipment?
We have a budget of around £5000 (this had to include the cost of soundproofing the room too)
So far Ive suggested:
A set of vinyl decks with mixer
A set of CD decks with mixer
An amplifier
Studio monitors
Studio headphonesThen: 2 acoustic guitars
An electri guitar with amp (poss FX pedals too)
A keyboard
Possibly a drum kit
Lots of percussion instruments – bongos,tambourines etcIve also suggested some recording equipment:
A digital four trackWhat do u guys think?
Seperate from that shes buying me £300s worth of stuff in payment! Cool eh
this is what ive ordered:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/basket.php
Hope that works, its my shopping basket form Gak
:group_hug
January 19, 2008 at 5:45 pm #1152484Cant check your basket SD
Will give this some thought and get back to you 😉
January 19, 2008 at 5:45 pm #1208217Cant check your basket SD
Will give this some thought and get back to you 😉
January 19, 2008 at 5:54 pm #1152483budget for security measures as well.
I don’t mean to be “non-PC” (particularly as relatives of mine work for NHS mental health trusts not too far away from you) but from what I have been told by them and others in the social workers in todays psych ward there are “patients” in there who have symptoms that make them lack empathy for others as well as substance abuse/addiction issues – to them that kit will be a lot of cash what can be converted easily into drugs (I’m sure the local UK grime crews would want cheap decks/mixer)
youth clubs have this problem as well – clearly you don’t want to overly limi access or make it a prison but you need both “hard” security (i.e inventory/access control) and “soft” security (the professionals creating a climate where the patients to not want to derail the positive project by nicking stuff)
maybe network with people like teachers and janitors at nearby high schools and colleges who would have the same problem (and maybe be able to help with other matters!)
January 19, 2008 at 5:54 pm #1208215budget for security measures as well.
I don’t mean to be “non-PC” (particularly as relatives of mine work for NHS mental health trusts not too far away from you) but from what I have been told by them and others in the social workers in todays psych ward there are “patients” in there who have symptoms that make them lack empathy for others as well as substance abuse/addiction issues – to them that kit will be a lot of cash what can be converted easily into drugs (I’m sure the local UK grime crews would want cheap decks/mixer)
youth clubs have this problem as well – clearly you don’t want to overly limi access or make it a prison but you need both “hard” security (i.e inventory/access control) and “soft” security (the professionals creating a climate where the patients to not want to derail the positive project by nicking stuff)
maybe network with people like teachers and janitors at nearby high schools and colleges who would have the same problem (and maybe be able to help with other matters!)
January 19, 2008 at 7:23 pm #1152487Yeah shes awre of all that, she is the head psychiatrist at the DDU, shes used to junkies lol
All the equipment would be in a locked up room and only be open for staffed sessions/lessons.
Ive told her it will all need to be in flight cases and be secured to the furniture somehow…
January 19, 2008 at 7:23 pm #1208224Yeah shes awre of all that, she is the head psychiatrist at the DDU, shes used to junkies lol
All the equipment would be in a locked up room and only be open for staffed sessions/lessons.
Ive told her it will all need to be in flight cases and be secured to the furniture somehow…
January 19, 2008 at 9:17 pm #1152485I think a small mixing desk would be a useful addition to this list as you have only listed one amp apart from the guitar amp so I assume it would all be sharing the same amp. If you have a mixing desk you have a wider choice of recording equipment [not tied to a digital 4 track] It will save you plugging and unplugging things endlessly.
I like a soundcraft M8 personally as its very good as well as having 8 mono and 4 stereo channels on it. Its fairly simple to use and will allow you to blend all the inputs into one output for recording purposes. Without a desk recording will be a pain in the nuts IMO as you have more than 4 potential inputs you may want to use.
If you get the right dj mixer you may not need to get two separate ones as the cdjs and the decks could all use the same mixer [need something with 2 phono and 2 cd channels [or switches which allow you to swap input signals]] – this could be a useful saving. Remember that djs will need headphones too 😉
Remember to budget for cables to connect all this stuff together too. Plus some spares 😉 as there is nothing worse than not having a spare cable when you need one [the option is to be good with a soldering iron]
You havent listed microphones either – are you planning to have some? You will need voice . I like the sm-58 or sennheiser E series for general work – they are very versatile. You can get condenser mics for overhead pickups but you can use the sm-58/e series at a pinch. You will need mike stands with shock mounts to go with your mics too. When you are micing up the mixing desk will be a god send to you.
Regarding soundproofing describe the room to us and we can recommend soundproofing to you if you want some ideas 😉
My flow of ideas has dried up just now – will get back to this later.
January 19, 2008 at 9:17 pm #1208220I think a small mixing desk would be a useful addition to this list as you have only listed one amp apart from the guitar amp so I assume it would all be sharing the same amp. If you have a mixing desk you have a wider choice of recording equipment [not tied to a digital 4 track] It will save you plugging and unplugging things endlessly.
I like a soundcraft M8 personally as its very good as well as having 8 mono and 4 stereo channels on it. Its fairly simple to use and will allow you to blend all the inputs into one output for recording purposes. Without a desk recording will be a pain in the nuts IMO as you have more than 4 potential inputs you may want to use.
If you get the right dj mixer you may not need to get two separate ones as the cdjs and the decks could all use the same mixer [need something with 2 phono and 2 cd channels [or switches which allow you to swap input signals]] – this could be a useful saving. Remember that djs will need headphones too 😉
Remember to budget for cables to connect all this stuff together too. Plus some spares 😉 as there is nothing worse than not having a spare cable when you need one [the option is to be good with a soldering iron]
You havent listed microphones either – are you planning to have some? You will need voice . I like the sm-58 or sennheiser E series for general work – they are very versatile. You can get condenser mics for overhead pickups but you can use the sm-58/e series at a pinch. You will need mike stands with shock mounts to go with your mics too. When you are micing up the mixing desk will be a god send to you.
Regarding soundproofing describe the room to us and we can recommend soundproofing to you if you want some ideas 😉
My flow of ideas has dried up just now – will get back to this later.
January 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm #1152488Raj wrote:I think a small mixing desk would be a useful addition to this list as you have only listed one amp apart from the guitar amp so I assume it would all be sharing the same amp. If you have a mixing desk you have a wider choice of recording equipment [not tied to a digital 4 track] It will save you plugging and unplugging things endlessly.I like a soundcraft M8 personally as its very good as well as having 8 mono and 4 stereo channels on it. Its fairly simple to use and will allow you to blend all the inputs into one output for recording purposes. Without a desk recording will be a pain in the nuts IMO as you have more than 4 potential inputs you may want to use.
If you get the right dj mixer you may not need to get two separate ones as the cdjs and the decks could all use the same mixer [need something with 2 phono and 2 cd channels [or switches which allow you to swap input signals]] – this could be a useful saving. Remember that djs will need headphones too 😉
Remember to budget for cables to connect all this stuff together too. Plus some spares 😉 as there is nothing worse than not having a spare cable when you need one [the option is to be good with a soldering iron]
You havent listed microphones either – are you planning to have some? You will need voice . I like the sm-58 or sennheiser E series for general work – they are very versatile. You can get condenser mics for overhead pickups but you can use the sm-58/e series at a pinch. You will need mike stands with shock mounts to go with your mics too. When you are micing up the mixing desk will be a god send to you.
Regarding soundproofing describe the room to us and we can recommend soundproofing to you if you want some ideas 😉
My flow of ideas has dried up just now – will get back to this later.
Thanks a lot Raj, will get back to this properly when I can….
January 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm #1208226Raj wrote:I think a small mixing desk would be a useful addition to this list as you have only listed one amp apart from the guitar amp so I assume it would all be sharing the same amp. If you have a mixing desk you have a wider choice of recording equipment [not tied to a digital 4 track] It will save you plugging and unplugging things endlessly.I like a soundcraft M8 personally as its very good as well as having 8 mono and 4 stereo channels on it. Its fairly simple to use and will allow you to blend all the inputs into one output for recording purposes. Without a desk recording will be a pain in the nuts IMO as you have more than 4 potential inputs you may want to use.
If you get the right dj mixer you may not need to get two separate ones as the cdjs and the decks could all use the same mixer [need something with 2 phono and 2 cd channels [or switches which allow you to swap input signals]] – this could be a useful saving. Remember that djs will need headphones too 😉
Remember to budget for cables to connect all this stuff together too. Plus some spares 😉 as there is nothing worse than not having a spare cable when you need one [the option is to be good with a soldering iron]
You havent listed microphones either – are you planning to have some? You will need voice . I like the sm-58 or sennheiser E series for general work – they are very versatile. You can get condenser mics for overhead pickups but you can use the sm-58/e series at a pinch. You will need mike stands with shock mounts to go with your mics too. When you are micing up the mixing desk will be a god send to you.
Regarding soundproofing describe the room to us and we can recommend soundproofing to you if you want some ideas 😉
My flow of ideas has dried up just now – will get back to this later.
Thanks a lot Raj, will get back to this properly when I can….
January 20, 2008 at 6:13 pm #1152493I found this website when I was doing some research for a mate’s community radio station, they’re a non-profit organisation that specialise in setting up community radio stations and giving advice to people like yourself who are interested in starting out. They have some extremely reasonable equipment packages on there too in the “what we do” section of the site, and explain what all the gear does and why you might need it.
January 20, 2008 at 6:13 pm #1208239I found this website when I was doing some research for a mate’s community radio station, they’re a non-profit organisation that specialise in setting up community radio stations and giving advice to people like yourself who are interested in starting out. They have some extremely reasonable equipment packages on there too in the “what we do” section of the site, and explain what all the gear does and why you might need it.
January 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm #1152489cheeseweasel wrote:I found this website when I was doing some research for a mate’s community radio station, they’re a non-profit organisation that specialise in setting up community radio stations and giving advice to people like yourself who are interested in starting out. They have some extremely reasonable equipment packages on there too in the “what we do” section of the site, and explain what all the gear does and why you might need it.Cool, ill suggest it, thanks for the mic and mixer tip raj, forgot about that.
Ill give a complete run down of everything ive suggested at some point..
January 20, 2008 at 8:19 pm #1208227cheeseweasel wrote:I found this website when I was doing some research for a mate’s community radio station, they’re a non-profit organisation that specialise in setting up community radio stations and giving advice to people like yourself who are interested in starting out. They have some extremely reasonable equipment packages on there too in the “what we do” section of the site, and explain what all the gear does and why you might need it.Cool, ill suggest it, thanks for the mic and mixer tip raj, forgot about that.
Ill give a complete run down of everything ive suggested at some point..
January 20, 2008 at 8:43 pm #1152486Thanks Cheeseweasel 🙂
January 20, 2008 at 8:43 pm #1208222Thanks Cheeseweasel 🙂
January 20, 2008 at 10:24 pm #1152494Raj wrote:Thanks Cheeseweasel 🙂Not a problem 😉
January 20, 2008 at 10:24 pm #1208241Raj wrote:Thanks Cheeseweasel 🙂Not a problem 😉
January 20, 2008 at 11:10 pm #1152490Allo again, this is a rough draught of what im planning, tell me what you think.
Bear in mind im not a DJ or sound tech, this is just all from my memory and minimal experience with rigs/sound systems
Homerton Music Room For Patients And SAU Service Users
List of equipment needed:Item: Link:
Instruments;
Guitar x 2 (Acoustic) http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=71407
Guitar (Electric) & Amp http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/71410
Keyboard And Stand http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/productCasioWK8000Keyboard-118-110.html
Percussion;
Drum Kit?
Tambourines x 3 http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Bongos x 2
http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Triangle
Castanettes
Maraccas
Xylophone
Dj/Recording Equipment;
Vinyl Decks With Mixer http://www.djkit.co.uk/package.php?id=PKG-274-376&cat=200
CD Decks With Mixer http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=208&cat=202
Main Mixer
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=419&cat=98
Powered Studio Monitors http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=2351&highlight=powered%20monitors
Microphones With Stands x 2 http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=1413&cat=300
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=2328&highlight=microphone%20stands
Digital Four Track? (for recording) http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do?dispatch=showProduct&SKU=FOST-MR8MK2&context=WEB
Item: Price:
Instruments;
Guitar x 2 (Acoustic) £59 Each
Guitar (Electric) & Amp £79.99 Each Keyboard And £299 Stand
(This is quite a high spec keyboard, we can go cheaper)
Percussion;
Castanets £4
Tambourines x 3 £9.99 Bongos x 2 £65
Triangle £11
Darbuka (hand held drum) £29
Cabasa £23
Maraccas £12.95
Wood Guiros £8
Bar Chimes £27
Swanee Whistle £18
Dj/Recording Equipment;
Vinyl Decks With Mixer £199 CD Decks With Mixer £179
Main Mixer £74.95 Powered Studio Monitors £149.95 Microphones £19.99 Each
Microphone Stands £18.99 Each
TOTAL: £1367.00
Other/Misc;
XLR Cables6.35mm Stereo Cables
Phono Cables
(Amount depending on what comes with the kits we buy) £50-75?Digital Four Track? (for recording at a later stage) £165.00
Soundproofing:
This is going to be a professional job and will have to be contracted out, I’ve had trouble trying to find an approximate price for this.
I suggest we find a room first so we have an idea of size and then get an engineer out to give a quote.
Also there is the fact that it will have to meet all hospital safety requirements.
http://www.soundstop.co.uk/
http://www.mch.co.uk/centrallondon/acousticsoundproofingspecialists.shtmlJanuary 20, 2008 at 11:10 pm #1208232Allo again, this is a rough draught of what im planning, tell me what you think.
Bear in mind im not a DJ or sound tech, this is just all from my memory and minimal experience with rigs/sound systems
Homerton Music Room For Patients And SAU Service Users
List of equipment needed:Item: Link:
Instruments;
Guitar x 2 (Acoustic) http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=71407
Guitar (Electric) & Amp http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/71410
Keyboard And Stand http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/productCasioWK8000Keyboard-118-110.html
Percussion;
Drum Kit?
Tambourines x 3 http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Bongos x 2
http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Triangle
Castanettes
Maraccas
Xylophone
Dj/Recording Equipment;
Vinyl Decks With Mixer http://www.djkit.co.uk/package.php?id=PKG-274-376&cat=200
CD Decks With Mixer http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=208&cat=202
Main Mixer
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=419&cat=98
Powered Studio Monitors http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=2351&highlight=powered%20monitors
Microphones With Stands x 2 http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=1413&cat=300
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=2328&highlight=microphone%20stands
Digital Four Track? (for recording) http://www.turnkey.co.uk/web/productAction.do?dispatch=showProduct&SKU=FOST-MR8MK2&context=WEB
Item: Price:
Instruments;
Guitar x 2 (Acoustic) £59 Each
Guitar (Electric) & Amp £79.99 Each Keyboard And £299 Stand
(This is quite a high spec keyboard, we can go cheaper)
Percussion;
Castanets £4
Tambourines x 3 £9.99 Bongos x 2 £65
Triangle £11
Darbuka (hand held drum) £29
Cabasa £23
Maraccas £12.95
Wood Guiros £8
Bar Chimes £27
Swanee Whistle £18
Dj/Recording Equipment;
Vinyl Decks With Mixer £199 CD Decks With Mixer £179
Main Mixer £74.95 Powered Studio Monitors £149.95 Microphones £19.99 Each
Microphone Stands £18.99 Each
TOTAL: £1367.00
Other/Misc;
XLR Cables6.35mm Stereo Cables
Phono Cables
(Amount depending on what comes with the kits we buy) £50-75?Digital Four Track? (for recording at a later stage) £165.00
Soundproofing:
This is going to be a professional job and will have to be contracted out, I’ve had trouble trying to find an approximate price for this.
I suggest we find a room first so we have an idea of size and then get an engineer out to give a quote.
Also there is the fact that it will have to meet all hospital safety requirements.
http://www.soundstop.co.uk/
http://www.mch.co.uk/centrallondon/acousticsoundproofingspecialists.shtmlJanuary 20, 2008 at 11:18 pm #1152491Apologies for the formatting, it didnt like being cut and pasted from works..Quick question…
Will this mixer
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=419&cat=98(6 channel)
Do the job?
I was planning to have independant mixers on both sets of decks and then running them through this central mixer.
This would mean I can also then plug in mic’s, laptops etc too
And obviously crossfade between both sets of decks.
Or am I mad and this is impossible?Raj-
I should have explained myself better in the first post, Im basically being paid in equipment to do it, ive been given approx £300 to spend on what I want. As im trying to get some of my own tracks down at the moment and am not good enough at cubase im gonna buy a digital four track:http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=68584
And some other bits:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/72718
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=67669
And then just some headphones and a new mic.
I should be able to plug the fourtrack straight into the powered moniters eh?
Thanks in advance for the help guys!
January 20, 2008 at 11:18 pm #1208235Apologies for the formatting, it didnt like being cut and pasted from works..Quick question…
Will this mixer
http://www.djkit.co.uk/product.php?id=419&cat=98(6 channel)
Do the job?
I was planning to have independant mixers on both sets of decks and then running them through this central mixer.
This would mean I can also then plug in mic’s, laptops etc too
And obviously crossfade between both sets of decks.
Or am I mad and this is impossible?Raj-
I should have explained myself better in the first post, Im basically being paid in equipment to do it, ive been given approx £300 to spend on what I want. As im trying to get some of my own tracks down at the moment and am not good enough at cubase im gonna buy a digital four track:http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=68584
And some other bits:
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/72718
http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=67669
And then just some headphones and a new mic.
I should be able to plug the fourtrack straight into the powered moniters eh?
Thanks in advance for the help guys!
January 20, 2008 at 11:42 pm #1152492Also this place is wicked for drums and percussion stuff, and reasonably priced….Found it during my research
http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Thanks for the links
January 20, 2008 at 11:42 pm #1208236Also this place is wicked for drums and percussion stuff, and reasonably priced….Found it during my research
http://www.thedrumplace.co.uk/tdp_default.html
Thanks for the links
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