The hippy ideal……… of course they never work for long because they are contrary to human nature, the whole concept of each to their abilities and each to their needs falls down when those doing most the work see others doing less work receiving more.

Also in modern life totally impractical, self sufficiency in food is easy enough providing you can afford the initial start up costs to purchase arable land, building materials, to get planning permission, equipment etc etc… but for all the things you cant make yourself on an ongoing basis you need to trade and trade requires you to produce something in competition with commercial sector.

In fact the only way I can see a commune being viable at all these days is if they have a huge investment portfolio behind them to subsidize the lifestyle.

Best of luck

@FungiTeK 510637 wrote:

these are all very wise points, the other problem i seem to think of is in communes its almost cultish in the way that it is run. one of my friends is telling me at the moment that some seem to not respect everyone’s ideologies and are more about the basic vegan hippy life style and people who eat meat seem to get persecuted against :/ though this coop im looking at looks nice and im actually filling the application out now to have a trial weekend

Co-Op building projects are a great idea if you can find one, but they are purely for creating housing in a neighbourhood of like minded people, outside of housing, and possibly shared utility / amenities those involved still have to work externally & individually so very different to a commune.

On the hippy side of communes, Ive never actually seen one, they are portrayed in the media as extremists on the philosophy side, but since the media is dependent on consumerism for advertising revenue I wouldnt put any trust in what they say.

Totally off topic, but yeah we all love to hate oil companies……… but how many of us stop using petrol, or would be willing to pay the massively increased price of petrol obtained in a clean environmentally friendly way ?? Yes these companies are dirty as hell, but as consumers who dont ask questions we are all culpable.

Truth is we dont want to know, we like petrol, the freedom to travel, the ability to commute to work from nicer houses in the burbs because we could only afford crappy little houses or apartments close to work, and not losing hours out of our day on public transport.

@FungiTeK 510647 wrote:

exactly man everyone knows that its bad and yet we still use it :/ according to my friend the one she visited in france was quite radical in its thoughts

Well on the petrol thing, most peeps agree it’s bad, they just dont think they should be the ones to give it up, kinda an everyone or no-one gives it up situation, and price increases dont work, if anything ( and excuse the pun ) price increasing throw fuel on the fire by separating the rich from the poor in a very visible & public way, driving the the poor off the road and slowly making driving with all it benefits a privilege of the wealthy.

As for your friend, TBH France seems very left wing anyways so I wouldnt assume a British version to be as radical

Oil is just a relatively cheap, reliable, and efficient form of energy. The speed at which it releases its energy is ideal for things like motor engines and other such things. If we push for making other technologies more affordable and efficient, then we’ll no longer need oil. The stone age did not end from lack of stone, and the oil age will end long before the world runs out of oil.

@barrettone 510656 wrote:

Oil is just a relatively cheap, reliable, and efficient form of energy. The speed at which it releases its energy is ideal for things like motor engines and other such things. If we push for making other technologies more affordable and efficient, then we’ll no longer need oil. The stone age did not end from lack of stone, and the oil age will end long before the world runs out of oil.

lolz if giant powerful corporations who made a fortune out of stone every year had been around in the stone age, they would have ensured their monopoly continued by keeping us in the stone age as long as possible

Economics drives ( and sometimes holds back ) progress today, this is not the ‘Oil Age’ it the the ‘Profit & Loss Age’

@FungiTeK 510677 wrote:

brilliant! im looking for more a commune than a co-op housing thing, the co-op to me seems more long term and more of a place to settle down raise kids and spend your pensioner days there. i wanted to spend like 3months to a year living with a big commune of happy people on the same vibe as me

Tipi has visitors I think as they already full, they have a website and all info on that

@barrettone 510656 wrote:

Oil is just a relatively cheap, reliable, and efficient form of energy.[/quote]

:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

@barrettone 510656 wrote:

The speed at which it releases its energy is ideal for things like motor engines and other such things. If we push for making other technologies more affordable and efficient, then we’ll no longer need oil. The stone age did not end from lack of stone, and the oil age will end long before the world runs out of oil.

That was much more on the mark than your opening comment, which was quite frankly complete bullshit.