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April 21, 2008 at 10:25 am #1160936
How’s the hand today Elretardo?
April 21, 2008 at 10:25 am #1218802How’s the hand today Elretardo?
April 21, 2008 at 10:35 am #1160914boothy wrote:ElRetardo I agree we shouldn’t go to the doctors for petty things, however the point I was referring to was this statement:
“I don’t trust the bastards its a bit too close to religion for me”That sounds like a bit of a generalising attack on a group of people who mostly do a very good job.
What I meant was I won’t let them do something to me without a bit of reserach. I mean as a kid I had fluid build up arround a tendon on my wrist, which is completely harmless so my doctor decided I should be injected with some mad chemical without telling me the side effects.
Now (8 years alter) I get random bouts of extreme pain, spasm stylee contractions of the tendon, my hand sometimes freezes up and generally its fucked my use of my hand. It wasn’t until I went back to complain about these problems with my mum that the doctor explained that this was the price I had to pay to not have a fuckin tiny wee squidgy lump on the back of my wrist that I only got looked at as my mum thought it could be a tumour.
So yeh enough of my ranting….what I meant was I don’t just let them do what they want to me without a bit of research. The whole religion thing was about the fact that people trust them blindly and wind up with new problems caused by the drugs they got to save them from the first problem.
Sorry for the confusion.
Sini wrote:How’s the hand today Elretardo?Seems fine….and I’m not dead yet. Cheers.
April 21, 2008 at 10:35 am #1218780boothy wrote:ElRetardo I agree we shouldn’t go to the doctors for petty things, however the point I was referring to was this statement:
“I don’t trust the bastards its a bit too close to religion for me”That sounds like a bit of a generalising attack on a group of people who mostly do a very good job.
What I meant was I won’t let them do something to me without a bit of reserach. I mean as a kid I had fluid build up arround a tendon on my wrist, which is completely harmless so my doctor decided I should be injected with some mad chemical without telling me the side effects.
Now (8 years alter) I get random bouts of extreme pain, spasm stylee contractions of the tendon, my hand sometimes freezes up and generally its fucked my use of my hand. It wasn’t until I went back to complain about these problems with my mum that the doctor explained that this was the price I had to pay to not have a fuckin tiny wee squidgy lump on the back of my wrist that I only got looked at as my mum thought it could be a tumour.
So yeh enough of my ranting….what I meant was I don’t just let them do what they want to me without a bit of research. The whole religion thing was about the fact that people trust them blindly and wind up with new problems caused by the drugs they got to save them from the first problem.
Sorry for the confusion.
Sini wrote:How’s the hand today Elretardo?Seems fine….and I’m not dead yet. Cheers.
April 21, 2008 at 10:48 am #1160921I’m not against the NHS at all –
but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holisticallyThey decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
hands still going numb and painful –
but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..
(I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)
calm down a minute
I went to a chiropractor independantly –
and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..
April 21, 2008 at 10:48 am #1218787I’m not against the NHS at all –
but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holisticallyThey decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
hands still going numb and painful –
but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..
(I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)
calm down a minute
I went to a chiropractor independantly –
and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..
April 21, 2008 at 11:10 am #1160916my g/f’s grandad died while in hospital due to negligence on the part of the hospital, he contrated some nasty infection due to the squalid conditions he was left in, uncleaned dressings, shit in his bed etc. He was also left in a corridor for a day cause there was no ward free. Now i admit some do the best they can, but some are just slack or are incapable of doing the job, whether thats the persons fault or the systems i dont know. My g/f’s nan is now having to go to the ombordsman (sp?) to get compensation. She said herself she feels bad about claiming compensation as it is only going to take money away from the NHS when that is obviously what they need to try and sort out the problems they have. She just wants to get answers to how it got to that state and she also wants to try and make sure the problems are addressed so that it doesnt happen to anyone else in the future. So although i understand you El for not wanting to claim i think it is important that someone or part of the organisation is held responsible to insure that stuff like that doesnt happen in the future.
April 21, 2008 at 11:10 am #1218782my g/f’s grandad died while in hospital due to negligence on the part of the hospital, he contrated some nasty infection due to the squalid conditions he was left in, uncleaned dressings, shit in his bed etc. He was also left in a corridor for a day cause there was no ward free. Now i admit some do the best they can, but some are just slack or are incapable of doing the job, whether thats the persons fault or the systems i dont know. My g/f’s nan is now having to go to the ombordsman (sp?) to get compensation. She said herself she feels bad about claiming compensation as it is only going to take money away from the NHS when that is obviously what they need to try and sort out the problems they have. She just wants to get answers to how it got to that state and she also wants to try and make sure the problems are addressed so that it doesnt happen to anyone else in the future. So although i understand you El for not wanting to claim i think it is important that someone or part of the organisation is held responsible to insure that stuff like that doesnt happen in the future.
April 21, 2008 at 11:11 am #1160927Tank Girl wrote:I’m not against the NHS at all –
but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holisticallyThey decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
hands still going numb and painful –
but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..(I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)
calm down a minute
I went to a chiropractor independantly –
and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..
Have you ever tried acupuncture?I had a really bad back and shoulder… and at one point couldn’t even raise my arm above shoulder level.. had 3 months pysio.. nothing… had about 4 months of chiro and it would ease only right after treatment to be sore as hell again…
last ditch effort when the pain became unbearable a few months later was acupuncture as I am terrified of needles… cant even look at when i get a blood test…
OH MY GOD…. within a couple of treatments the pain had gone… I had mobility… I also had acupressure session at the same time.. The acupuncture was so relaxing I would usually fall asleep for the time they had to stay in… just could not help it… and a really really deep sleep also.. so much that could not drive immediately home I had to take a wee walk…
Acupuncture will now always be my first port of call if I need fixing up. Took i think it was 6 sessions and it was like I had never been in pain!!!!
:weee:April 21, 2008 at 11:11 am #1218793Tank Girl wrote:I’m not against the NHS at all –
but my one complaint about the problem I’ve been having with my hands is I find doctors can be very narrow minded and will not treat you holisticallyThey decided I had carpel tunnel – I had x2 operations –
hands still going numb and painful –
but instead of looking where else it could be (I’e my back) they then told me it was my elbow
I then didnt feel listened to as how can both hands go numb when the problem (from the doctors) is only in one elbow –
They then said they wanted to opperate again ……..(I do think I had carpel tunnel as those symptoms have cleared up pretty much)
calm down a minute
I went to a chiropractor independantly –
and I have a trapped nerve in my neck, one leg shorter than the other (which I am now being ripped about by all my mates … 😉 ) which is why my back is all twisted causing ppressure in my neck (god I’m really selling myself :laugh_at: )
and will have to pay around £500 over the next few weeks / months (luckily I have savings)
but if it saves not having to have another op / I’ll finally get a full nights sleep with out being woken up several times / less (no) pain …………. I’ll do anything……..sorry for my rant but this is year 5…..
Have you ever tried acupuncture?I had a really bad back and shoulder… and at one point couldn’t even raise my arm above shoulder level.. had 3 months pysio.. nothing… had about 4 months of chiro and it would ease only right after treatment to be sore as hell again…
last ditch effort when the pain became unbearable a few months later was acupuncture as I am terrified of needles… cant even look at when i get a blood test…
OH MY GOD…. within a couple of treatments the pain had gone… I had mobility… I also had acupressure session at the same time.. The acupuncture was so relaxing I would usually fall asleep for the time they had to stay in… just could not help it… and a really really deep sleep also.. so much that could not drive immediately home I had to take a wee walk…
Acupuncture will now always be my first port of call if I need fixing up. Took i think it was 6 sessions and it was like I had never been in pain!!!!
:weee:April 21, 2008 at 11:16 am #1160922spark wrote:Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
(I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitiveApril 21, 2008 at 11:16 am #1218788spark wrote:Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
(I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitiveApril 21, 2008 at 2:02 pm #1160928Tank Girl wrote:spark wrote:Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
(I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitiveWow…. I dont need to convert you then!!! hehe…
(But i seriously do think acupunture is tops!)Good luck with the hands!!!:bounce_fl
April 21, 2008 at 2:02 pm #1218794Tank Girl wrote:spark wrote:Have you ever tried acupuncture?[/quote]yes, had acupuncture lots – even linked up to a tens machine
(I actually am a practicing acupunturist at work – aricular / ear only though- there are points for all the body in the ear)
but despite relieving my back pain it didnt seem to have any effect with the problems for my hands – but its lessend already and only had 3 chiro sessions so far :love: so am feeling really possitiveWow…. I dont need to convert you then!!! hehe…
(But i seriously do think acupunture is tops!)Good luck with the hands!!!:bounce_fl
April 21, 2008 at 3:01 pm #1160932when the co2 tanks at work burst their safety disks and go all over your hands it hurts …
as for doctors … meah … prescribe prescribe prescribe ….
April 21, 2008 at 3:01 pm #1218798when the co2 tanks at work burst their safety disks and go all over your hands it hurts …
as for doctors … meah … prescribe prescribe prescribe ….
April 21, 2008 at 5:29 pm #1160930I did this when hammered and trying to fill balloons with the little cream chargers, the whipper emptied but it didn’t go into the dispenser. So when i unscrewed it the gas released into the palm of my hand, it froze 2 fingers and a bit of my hand….. that fecking hurt!
Hope all is good mate
April 21, 2008 at 5:29 pm #1218796I did this when hammered and trying to fill balloons with the little cream chargers, the whipper emptied but it didn’t go into the dispenser. So when i unscrewed it the gas released into the palm of my hand, it froze 2 fingers and a bit of my hand….. that fecking hurt!
Hope all is good mate
April 21, 2008 at 5:47 pm #1160915yeah them things can sting, used to have fun spraying my mate when he worked with me.
must have been a pretty concentrated spray to do damage though. or alot of it. it usually just freezes then dissapears.
April 21, 2008 at 5:47 pm #1218781yeah them things can sting, used to have fun spraying my mate when he worked with me.
must have been a pretty concentrated spray to do damage though. or alot of it. it usually just freezes then dissapears.
April 21, 2008 at 6:22 pm #1160919There are various things you can do to improve the healing on your burn El – the aloe vera leaves rubbed on directly would help you out [if the plants survived], lavender oil applied to the area [will reduce scarring /promote healing] or for the zero additives approach put the palm of the other hand over the afffected area and keep it there for 5- 10 mins 2 times a day [the area should get hot when you do this]
I have to say I wont take antibiotics for choice either and echinacea tincture is a good way of avoiding them for me if you havent tried that yet 😉
April 21, 2008 at 6:22 pm #1218785There are various things you can do to improve the healing on your burn El – the aloe vera leaves rubbed on directly would help you out [if the plants survived], lavender oil applied to the area [will reduce scarring /promote healing] or for the zero additives approach put the palm of the other hand over the afffected area and keep it there for 5- 10 mins 2 times a day [the area should get hot when you do this]
I have to say I wont take antibiotics for choice either and echinacea tincture is a good way of avoiding them for me if you havent tried that yet 😉
April 21, 2008 at 8:38 pm #1160925djprocess wrote:whether thats the persons fault or the systemsthe systems. the administration of the nhs is fucking diabolical. it’s not the nurses and doctors on the wards that are the problem. it’s cash-strapped and stretched to the max, yet the public complain when it’s given more money. government targets fuck things up too. i don’t know what the solution is, tbh. i don’t really understand the proposed privatisation.
April 21, 2008 at 8:38 pm #1218791djprocess wrote:whether thats the persons fault or the systemsthe systems. the administration of the nhs is fucking diabolical. it’s not the nurses and doctors on the wards that are the problem. it’s cash-strapped and stretched to the max, yet the public complain when it’s given more money. government targets fuck things up too. i don’t know what the solution is, tbh. i don’t really understand the proposed privatisation.
April 21, 2008 at 9:37 pm #1160909Anonymouswhen i caught fire the burns unit i went to was feckin a! though the hospital was part funded by the mod…
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