because other selfish cunts were and still are fucking around all across the world with their own power games; and no one anywhere in this world seems willing to reach a consensus or a compromise.

We (of all races and cultures) are often brought up (or encouraged by our peers) to fight, fight, and fight again for what we believe in using whatever means we can; and once a person loses respect for their own life, they are never going to respect anyone elses.

Of course the people with power get away with fighting using armies, cops etc but others without convetional power will inevitably take matters into their own hands. Further, young men worldwide, unless given suitable positive advice and guidance with their lives are easily sucked into a culture of using hate and violence to get their way.

In the 1970s there was the Irish civil war (still ongoing but on a lesser scale), in the 1980s and 1990s there were (and still are) “animal rights” activists who enjoy making bombs as much as (if not more so) than protecting animals (one was found to be a random angry lad who had never even attended a meeting!); on the other side of the political spectrum there are the extreme right wing groups; who even tried to disrupt raves in the 1990s. Some of them were recently foiled trying to bomb multicultural areas; one (David Copeland, the Soho Nail-bomber) actually succeeded in doing so and was the last terrorist attack on London previous to 7/7.

In many cases we as a society have been lucky as English-speaking terrorists are easily tracked and caught; and some of the “foreign” ones have been succesfully foiled by security forces both home and abroad.

But long before there were many immigrants in Britain there were people killing each other over religion, including setting fire to houses and places of worship or blowing them up with gunpowder, and kidnapping/executions. it wasn’t called terrorism then, just groups consolidating power and fighting their corner.

Its always a tragedy for the victims; but until the world learns to co-exist and share resources and people become less prepared to accept violence of any kind as a solution, this is going to happen again and again and again – just that the locations, the victims and the criminals are different each time.

What I find far more worrying than these organised fanatical groups (who are more than often foiled by security services) is the increasing use of fire and improvised explosive devices in localised domestic disputes, and random “individualist terrorist” attacks such as people deliberately leaving their car on a level crossing to derail a train (happened the year before 7/7 near where I lived).

Easy K_Trina. General Lighting is just trying to demonstrate the reason why certain people feel the need for such desperate measures. He is not condoning it or sticking up for them.

Of course the people who lost their lives or were injured are innocent in all this but it was an event brought about by other countries and our own actions elsewhere.

You said you didn’t know why they did it so he is simply telling you straight rather than pretend they are crazed loons without purpose attacking our innocent country. Worse shit is carried out by us and US all around the world on a daily basis.

This does not detract from the fact that it was a sad and needless loss of life and should have never happened.

nope – its never justified – no more than war or violence anywhere else in the world is. But these things do happen, and will happen over and over again all across the world until this world is sorted out – which it may never be.

Of course they did nothing to deserve this attack – It is a tragedy for them and their families that they died. but if it wasn’t for politics, these incidents would not happen.

They have been used as pawns in the game of people more powerful than them; and worst of all the government is not even giving the victims their rightful compensation.

Of course I participated in the silence as well; but that is all we can do.

It could all happen again tomorrow unless communities unite (and one thing I saw which was good was different cultures supposedly uniting – how real, sincere and lasting this actually is I do not know).

You cannot escape from politics, nor can you escape from the consequences of them.

TBH they could have attacked the source and not the hundereds of innocent people. these days people just seem to be more and more angry and that just seems to well up and flow out in alot of negative forms E.G. casual violence and extremisim. PLUR through main stream society is dying out in my opinion, only the ravers and a select few manage to keep this alive!! I did my best tonight. Was walking through the pub on the phone to my m8 tonight and had one guy come face to face with me and say “oi your a wanker” and then his friend straight after him rammed his face in mine an go “your a fucking tosser” my reaction was just to say “oh, cheers for that I will work on it” an i walked off leaving them rather bemused:weee:

Well said! I’m also sick of all the conspiracy theories that are floating around as well. This thread is a remembrance for all those innocent people that were murdered by some sick sewerside bombers that enjoy death more than life.

I agree with GL here its always good to know the facts, he aint condoning them he is just enlightening us. surely you want to know the proper reasons as to why this happened and not just spend your time thinking it was just a suicide bombing without reason.

Good point

sadly true:hopeless:

BRITTANIA WAIVERS THE RULES…………