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May 5, 2013 at 4:43 pm #1055781
What happened to the massive hippie movement that was prominent in the 60’s? The summer of love and all that? There was a big call for peace and love that seemed to just die down. I don’t really know anything about it, it just seems to me that there was once a huge movement for the abolition of wars and a massive call for the spreading of peace and love that just seemed to fade away (it seems acid was rife back then too)
May 5, 2013 at 8:12 pm #1273019They all died. Or got old. But there are still small hippies.
Nowadays you only get small hippie movements, all the big ones were too big to support themselves.
May 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm #1273024It was only a small minority of privileged youngsters that where part of the movement.
For most the sixties where hard times (even though they where exciting to)Like all big cult followings people get bored and move onto something different.
I prefer the beatnik generation anyway. Far more stylish and produced far superior art imo.
May 6, 2013 at 9:13 am #1273015@Izbeckistan 544940 wrote:
It was only a small minority of privileged youngsters that where part of the movement.
For most the sixties where hard times (even though they where exciting to)This was true. It was a very white, middle class thing as was entry into the music scene, and that music scene was soon taken over by hard nosed capitalist (the old boy who stopped me getting busted for my teenage pirate station was Radio Caroline’s broadcast engineer but went back to the BBC and then British Telecom as he was dismayed by what he saw happening to the scene.
My parents were once hippies but Dad got to overexcited in the Winter of 1971 and forgot his precautions, and they found that they could not support a kid whilst leading alternative lifestyle with only sporadic employment.
The last “alternative” thing they did was go on a caravan tour of Northern Europe just after mum was pregnant, but before she was too far gone for travelling. We used to have a photo of mum and dad stood by this sign saying ZOLL/DOUANE. But I don’t remember them going as far as Strasbourg, so it could well have been NL/DE border. Certainly they did spend some time in DE, Dad did try to learn German but the best he could manage was singing the bit out of “Wooden Heart” (which is a obscure dialect) in tribute to Elvis which he was a great fan of. I do sometimes wonder if that is why I’ve always been fascinated by Germanic culture 😉
Lots of hippies with engineering skills joined the Post Office / British Telecom and other electronics companies. Many are still there or are in similar industries. Its not uncommon to transfer between sound/AV engineering and telecoms as the two are very closely related.
May 6, 2013 at 6:06 pm #1273016The criminal justice bill
May 6, 2013 at 7:05 pm #1273022@Tank Girl 545002 wrote:
The criminal justice bill
Hippy movement wasnt killed off by that, most the hippies just grew up
CJB was decades later, a way of controlling the masses by not allowing them to congregate freely, and shepherding the youth back into taxable entertainment like clubs full of booze
May 6, 2013 at 7:14 pm #1273017@Mezz 545009 wrote:
Hippy movement wasnt killed off by that, most the hippies just grew up
CJB was decades later, a way of controlling the masses by not allowing them to congregate freely, and shepherding the youth back into taxable entertainment like clubs full of booze
my take on the question (admittedly I cant remember if I read it all), was over the generations the ‘movement’ sort of evolved in to ‘new age travellers’ and the CJB did have a big part of killing off that movement
I recon a lot of hippies (from the 60’s, if thats what we’re talking about) I know are still out there, but they brought up their kids and as you say grew up, but retain their youthful ambiance (well the ones I know anyway) and there are still a few communes and some in vehicles but usually on site or home and vehicle – lots of the festival lot (the festivals I go to) that are around 50-60yrs old, maybe they hibernate in the winter and work the summer?
May 6, 2013 at 7:56 pm #1273023@Tank Girl 545010 wrote:
my take on the question (admittedly I cant remember if I read it all), was over the generations the ‘movement’ sort of evolved in to ‘new age travellers’ and the CJB did have a big part of killing off that movement
I recon a lot of hippies (from the 60’s, if thats what we’re talking about) I know are still out there, but they brought up their kids and as you say grew up, but retain their youthful ambiance (well the ones I know anyway) and there are still a few communes and some in vehicles but usually on site or home and vehicle – lots of the festival lot (the festivals I go to) that are around 50-60yrs old, maybe they hibernate in the winter and work the summer?
If you consider all those that follow an ‘alternative’ lifestyle to be hippies yeah, but TBH the ‘New Age Travelers’ killed themselves, they didnt try to live with nature in a sustainable way like proper hippies, they behaved disgracefully trashing public land turning parks in rubbish tips, occupying private land and with huge crime increases against average low income people where ever they pitched up, thats why the public allowed the law to be tightened so brutally, and much as the left wing parties said it was a bad law ( which for the most part I agree ), none of them will undo it.
As for surviving true hippies, sadly I’ve never known one, only a few who claimed to be but were really hypocrites when you looked beneath the surface
May 7, 2013 at 12:19 am #1273020… Here’s the thing. Will a different, pro-Hippy, jug-eared head of state change the current hippy limbo?
Or are true hippies too busy being true hippies to give a toss what people think or who is the head of state or not?
May 9, 2013 at 2:32 am #1273018MAD HIPPY IS STILL GOING STRONG WAS ON THE BLOWER TO HIM EARLIER. TRUE STORY
May 9, 2013 at 3:11 am #1273021Well, apparently there are still people doing crazy protest shit;-
Quote:KNOXVILLE, Tenn. – An 83-year-old nun and two fellow protesters were convicted Wednesday of interfering with national security when they broke into a nuclear weapons facility in Tennessee and defaced a uranium processing plant.It took a jury about 2 1/2 hours to find the three protesters guilty of a charge of sabotaging the plant and second charge of damaging federal property in July the Y-12 National Security Complex in Oak Ridge in July.
Defense attorneys said in closing arguments that federal prosecutors had overreached in the charges because of the embarrassment caused by the break-in.
“The shortcomings in security at one of the most dangerous places on the planet have embarrassed a lot of people,” said Francis Lloyd, who represented Sister Megan Rice of Washington, D.C. “You’re looking at three scapegoats behind me.”
Prosecutor Jeff Theodore was dismissive of claims that the protesters’ actions were beneficial to security at the plant that has had a hand in making, maintaining or dismantling parts of every nuclear weapon in the country’s arsenal.
“Right after 9/11, did you notice how much better security got at airports and public buildings?” Theodore said. “Does that mean 9/11 was a good thing? Of course not.”
Theodore said the protesters’ intent was made clear by the fact that they carried the materials with them to deface the building.
He also noted that their fate could have been far worse because they had entered an area where guards were allowed to use deadly force.
“They’re lucky — and thank goodness they’re alive — because they went into the lethal zone,” he said.
The defense asked for a mistrial over the Sept. 11 comparison, but the judge denied the motion.
In Washington on Wednesday, Neile Miller, acting administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration, told a Senate subcommittee that officials have taken “decisive action” since the July 28 intrusion at the Y-12, including a new management team and a new defense security chief to oversee all of the agency’s sites.
“The severity of the failure of leadership at Y-12 has demanded swift, strong and decisive action by the department,” she said. “Since the Y-12 incursion, major actions have taken place to improve security immediately, and for the long term.”
Earlier Wednesday, Rice, Michael Walli and Greg Boertje-Obed testified on their own behalf, saying they have no remorse for their actions and were pleased to reach one of the most secure parts of the facility.
The defendants spent two hours inside Y-12. They cut through security fences, hung banners, strung crime-scene tape and hammered off a small chunk of the fortress-like Highly Enriched Uranium Materials Facility, or HEUMF, inside the most secure part of complex.
Rice said during cross examination that she wished she hadn’t waited so long to stage a protest inside the plant.
“My regret was I waited 70 years,” she said. “It is manufacturing that which can only cause death.”
Boertje-Obed, a house painter from Duluth, Minn., explained why they sprayed baby bottles full of human blood on the exterior of the facility.
“The reason for the baby bottles was to represent that the blood of children is spilled by these weapons,” he said.
All three defendants said they felt guided by divine forces in finding their way through the darkness from the perimeter of the complex to the enriched uranium plant without being detected.
“I believe it was clearly a miracle,” Boertje-Obed said. “There is no other way to explain it.”
Walli, who most recently lived in Washington, D.C., agreed.
“It was an answer to prayer,” he said.
The protesters’ attorneys noted that once they refused to plead guilty to trespassing, prosecutors substituted that charge with a sabotage count that carried a maximum prison term of 20 years. The other charge has a maximum sentence of 10 years. The defense argued during the trial that the more serious charge should be dismissed.
Prosecutors argued the act was a serious security breach that continues to disrupt operations at the facility. The intrusion caused the plant to shut down for two weeks as security forces were re-trained and contractors were replaced.
Federal officials have said there was never any danger of the protesters reaching materials that could be detonated on site or used to assemble a dirty bomb, a position stressed by defense attorneys.
The plant first built as part of the Manhattan Project during World War II that provided enriched uranium for the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan. It makes uranium parts for nuclear warheads, dismantles old weapons and is the nation’s primary storehouse for bomb-grade uranium. The facility enjoys high levels of support in the region, and Oak Ridge has always taken pride in its role in building the atomic bomb, viewing it as crucial to the end of the war.
For decades, protesters have rallied at the gates of Y-12 around the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima.
May 9, 2013 at 8:12 am #1273014AnonymousA lot of people found the free love thing a bit more rapey than people like to make out. Lot of pressure for young girls to have sex with people they didn’t know, caused a lot of damage to some.
Not really what you asked but what can I say I am a rebel.
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